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Doxa
sad, by the way, how quickly the album, no matter how much the critics praised it, seems to have gone out of sight, and not much talked anymore.
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Rockman
no matter how much the critics praised it ....
Yeah but the critics dont know ....
they say its a classic before they even live with it ...
Heck Dylan could poo on a piece of paper and they'd praise it
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Hairball
New Dylan album - nice he released it, and there's a couple of really nice tunes, but as a whole it's far from his best. I listened to it for the first week after release, and became tired of it easily.
Would have been content with the lengthy Kennedy tune on it's own, but even that has become somewhat of a chore to endure. In contrast, Time Out of Mind still ranks among the best albums ever by any artist/band.
Gotta give credit where credit's due though - at the ripe age of 79 Dylan is still ready and willing to put put an entire album of originals whether people like it or not, and hopefully he'll keep doing the same.
Can't imagine him jumping on some contemporary bandwagon trying to fit in with the young market and how they purchase/listen to their music, unlike Mick who still attempts to be relevant amongst the youth.
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Doxa
sad, by the way, how quickly the album, no matter how much the critics praised it, seems to have gone out of sight, and not much talked anymore.
Dylan's album went 2-49-115-out of the Billboard chart in 3 weeks, once the die hards got their physical copies no one else left to buy the album and with zero streaming the album was dead in less than a month.
Maybe the Stones are seeing this scenario, sadly it's all the same for any act over 45-50 years old, no album sticks more than a month in the chart, too much work for so few reward.
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McCartney's FLAMING PIE re-entered at #74.
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Doxa
sad, by the way, how quickly the album, no matter how much the critics praised it, seems to have gone out of sight, and not much talked anymore.
Dylan's album went 2-49-115-out of the Billboard chart in 3 weeks, once the die hards got their physical copies no one else left to buy the album and with zero streaming the album was dead in less than a month.
Maybe the Stones are seeing this scenario, sadly it's all the same for any act over 45-50 years old, no album sticks more than a month in the chart, too much work for so few reward.
Jimmy Buffett's newest LP debuted at #2 (#1 on the country chart) and 10 weeks on the chart. Haven't been able to find weekly chart position.
McCartney's FLAMING PIE re-entered at #74.
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MadMetaphoricalMax
ROugh and Ready is one of Bob's amazing albums - up there with the best, a work of magic, mystery and imagination, unprecedented in what it does and how Bob weaves his own myths, the ones pinned on him and the ones used by him into the larger folklore he's always drawn from, and for me, the subdued breathing of the music, yes it is pretty simple, but for for good reason, is the perfect backdrop to how he employs his voice on these songs, and phrases those lyrics.
It's astonishing how different our take can be
- all part of life's rich tapestry ....
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maumau
if the only reason to release the new songs is marketing oppurtunity there is little chance they have something good in the can.
of course marketing is an issue but I still think musicians should first of all want their music to be heard by people because they think its good. but mybe I am just oldfashioned
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mailexile67
15 years from the last original album, about 25/30 complete or unfinished songs, almost 5 years from the first studio sessions, and an album of cover that has sold over 2,5 millions just 4 years ago...Too many excuses and gossip, c'mon release the new songs it is "only" a record, they are musicians...It is their job and a matter to tease their pride...
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Hairball
Blue and Lonesome would be an appropriate last album - they started with covers and then ended with covers.
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Doxa
sad, by the way, how quickly the album, no matter how much the critics praised it, seems to have gone out of sight, and not much talked anymore.
Dylan's album went 2-49-115-out of the Billboard chart in 3 weeks, once the die hards got their physical copies no one else left to buy the album and with zero streaming the album was dead in less than a month.
Maybe the Stones are seeing this scenario, sadly it's all the same for any act over 45-50 years old, no album sticks more than a month in the chart, too much work for so few reward.
Jimmy Buffett's newest LP debuted at #2 (#1 on the country chart) and 10 weeks on the chart. Haven't been able to find weekly chart position.
McCartney's FLAMING PIE re-entered at #74.
Jimmy Buffett's latest album went 2-157-184-out on the Billboard 200:
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On the country chart the album remained 10 weeks so far, but with meaningless sales, you only need to sell 1k to reach the Top 10 on the country chart and less than 300 copies to reach the Top 50.
It's very hard for old acts to remain more than 3-4 weeks on the Billboard 200 chart with new albums, once the die hard fan base got their 5 physical copies of the album no one else is interested, without streaming there's no chance to hang on in there.
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Doxa
sad, by the way, how quickly the album, no matter how much the critics praised it, seems to have gone out of sight, and not much talked anymore.
Dylan's album went 2-49-115-out of the Billboard chart in 3 weeks, once the die hards got their physical copies no one else left to buy the album and with zero streaming the album was dead in less than a month.
Maybe the Stones are seeing this scenario, sadly it's all the same for any act over 45-50 years old, no album sticks more than a month in the chart, too much work for so few reward.
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Maindefender
All in all, the Stones have done a damn good job of keeping themselves exposed since the 2012 return to touring. Because they aren't DIY or indie the "white collars" get a little too involved. But Hell the Stones today are the corporate Stones and we need to take the good with the bad and assume they genuinely enjoy this phase. This GHS deluxe is getting the royal treatment and I can't get Scarlet out of my head so regardless how much it sells I will for one being listening to this awesome release for the rest of my time
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Hairball
Blue and Lonesome would be an appropriate last album - they started with covers and then ended with covers.
Will you guys stop being weird? I've had to wade through a gizillion posts in this very thread over a period of years now, and now this? Blue and Lonesome is not their last album, and it's not appropriate as such as some kind of bookends thing, and they are not going to fade quietly into the sunset, Charlie with his horses, blah blah blah. They will have another album and everybody here will hate it. But I don't care. I'm looking forward to it. But it's irritating how some of the posters with actual factual information have quit in disgust.
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IanBillen
They have worked on this thing in multiple places .. in various combinations ..
Band sessions .. one on one .... in isolation etc. etc.
LA- NYC - London (we've also heard they did a little in Paris ... who knows where else?).
Now they need a couple more band sessions to finish it he says. The
Stones have got to have amassed a huge amount of material over the last five years. Not saying it's all good .. or real good .. BUT they have worked on this thing on and off .. in various ways .. at various locations taking their sweeeet old time with it.
I think we can all agree .. they have had (and have taken) >>pleeeeeeeenty<< of time together and apart to work on it.
Hell Charlie remarked they had done so many bloody sessions on it (though he may of been exaggerating a bit ... still that comment was two years ago now lol).
Howdy Ian, long time no see (since Ghost Town was released), hope all is going well, and curious as to your opinions on the recent releases of the old/new demoes - Criss Cross and Scarlet.
Personally I've always loved Criss Cross, but Scarlet was a letdown and fails on so many levels which is a bit surprising considering Jimmy Page's involvement - guess it was overhyped and/or I was expecting too much.
Anyhow, in case you missed it, here's the absolute latest news on the supposed new album - a fresh quote from Mick Jagger himself!
“We have got to get together and do a couple more sessions, I think.
We are not really going to get together right now". - Mick via TalkTalk
My first thought was it's a hopeless mess, but on second thought at least it's still being talked about. Meanwhile they continue to kill/waste time with the GHS re-release and all the publicity involved, milking it as much as possible, selling bundles of merch, yet nobody except the established fans really care about it. Imagine if they were to release some more new and original music. Something to keep them relevant. Something that might make new fans and in turn make them some more money. Seems a no-brainer, but...time keeps ticking away, and no9t sure if they'll ever get around to completing an entire new album. Best case scenario and best hope - more new singles....
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retired_dog
Hmmm...the Stones having done all this work until now only to shy away from finally completing and releasing it due the climate of the music business?
How can anyone here believe that this is a likely scenario?