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im sure Mick's salivating at the idea that some dudes on this board will rate his work as filler or worse.....he could give three shits....why is this even a hot topic?....I can barely bring myself to spend what they are asking for to go see them in Tampa...I mean $347 for a ticket is outrageous when they will only play one or 2 songs outside a set list that's been set for decades.
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Nikkei
If they're still capable of deceiving you, that's on you. This contempt thing is a chuckle. Was already wondering when Mick's ineptitude would come into it, but you never disappoint
I'm consistent, and over time my thoughts usually turn out right.
Crosseyed Heart was a blow to Mick's ego, it was shockingly good and Mick is having trouble coming to terms with the fact that Keith can deliver great music this late in the game, Mick is struggling creatively, that's evident to all but a few on here. 15 years with nothing to shout about, It happens to musicians at Mick's age, writers block is one word for it, but it's not even that, he just can't make great music anymore period. I'm not picking on him, it's just a fact. Hope the new album proves me wrong though.
What i don't understand is why don't Mick and Keith make an album up from previously unfinished tracks if they have hit a wall. There must be enough good material left that didn't make it on various albums to make a fantastic double album of originals. That's what Tattoo You was, unfinished tracks from up to a decade before.
I agree with posters above, Crosseyed Heart gives us hope, but i feel Keith efforts have been derailed for 6 years now, time to ditch this album and Keith go it alone again, this album is nothing more than a sinking ship at this stage, Keith and Ronnie need to bailout.
There did that disappoint.
I wonder how you could not break out in laughter after reading your own lines!
A quick reality check: Personal preferences aside, neither Mick's single nor Crosseyed Heart created much stir outside their respective fan circles and are largely forgotten by now.
The only scenario I could imagine where CH could possibly be a blow to Mick's ego would be that CH was indeed the masterpiece you fabled (instead of being just nice and quite enjoyable imo), as such included a handful of Gimme Shelter-calibre tracks and outsold everything the Stones released in decades. That obviously happed in your wildest dreams!
But, yeah, the imagination of Mick sleepless, sitting there night and day listening to Crosseyed Heart again and again and losing his self-confidence and finally his mind over the thought how Keith could have come up with a masterpiece like that, is all to funny, I give you that.
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Ian,
please check my three posts on page 436 on this topic, crosscheck them with what georgelicks posted on pages 437/438, find the matches and you'll most likely come to a better understanding of the situation.
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Nikkei
If they're still capable of deceiving you, that's on you. This contempt thing is a chuckle. Was already wondering when Mick's ineptitude would come into it, but you never disappoint
I'm consistent, and over time my thoughts usually turn out right.
Crosseyed Heart was a blow to Mick's ego, it was shockingly good and Mick is having trouble coming to terms with the fact that Keith can deliver great music this late in the game, Mick is struggling creatively, that's evident to all but a few on here. 15 years with nothing to shout about, It happens to musicians at Mick's age, writers block is one word for it, but it's not even that, he just can't make great music anymore period. I'm not picking on him, it's just a fact. Hope the new album proves me wrong though.
What i don't understand is why don't Mick and Keith make an album up from previously unfinished tracks if they have hit a wall. There must be enough good material left that didn't make it on various albums to make a fantastic double album of originals. That's what Tattoo You was, unfinished tracks from up to a decade before.
I agree with posters above, Crosseyed Heart gives us hope, but i feel Keith efforts have been derailed for 6 years now, time to ditch this album and Keith go it alone again, this album is nothing more than a sinking ship at this stage, Keith and Ronnie need to bailout.
There did that disappoint.
I wonder how you could not break out in laughter after reading your own lines!
A quick reality check: Personal preferences aside, neither Mick's single nor Crosseyed Heart created much stir outside their respective fan circles and are largely forgotten by now.
The only scenario I could imagine where CH could possibly be a blow to Mick's ego would be that CH was indeed the masterpiece you fabled (instead of being just nice and quite enjoyable imo), as such included a handful of Gimme Shelter-calibre tracks and outsold everything the Stones released in decades. That obviously happed in your wildest dreams!
But, yeah, the imagination of Mick sleepless, sitting there night and day listening to Crosseyed Heart again and again and losing his self-confidence and finally his mind over the thought how Keith could have come up with a masterpiece like that, is all to funny, I give you that.
That counts for most artist nowadays. Should they then stop creativity!!#
Clapton continues - I still do. Mostly forgotten, but still a man that wants to record new stuff - even crappy x-mas songs.
Stones, long time gone - sad. But, we must respect their decision. However, B&L shows that they still can make good records - not only to their fan-base. Sold some 2 million worldwide which is very good nowadays. Maybe B&L should be the way forward, and why not play blues covers. They have always been good to play blues covers. That's where everything started.
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If they're still capable of deceiving you, that's on you. This contempt thing is a chuckle. Was already wondering when Mick's ineptitude would come into it, but you never disappoint
I'm consistent, and over time my thoughts usually turn out right.
Crosseyed Heart was a blow to Mick's ego, it was shockingly good and Mick is having trouble coming to terms with the fact that Keith can deliver great music this late in the game, Mick is struggling creatively, that's evident to all but a few on here. 15 years with nothing to shout about, It happens to musicians at Mick's age, writers block is one word for it, but it's not even that, he just can't make great music anymore period. I'm not picking on him, it's just a fact. Hope the new album proves me wrong though.
What i don't understand is why don't Mick and Keith make an album up from previously unfinished tracks if they have hit a wall. There must be enough good material left that didn't make it on various albums to make a fantastic double album of originals. That's what Tattoo You was, unfinished tracks from up to a decade before.
I agree with posters above, Crosseyed Heart gives us hope, but i feel Keith efforts have been derailed for 6 years now, time to ditch this album and Keith go it alone again, this album is nothing more than a sinking ship at this stage, Keith and Ronnie need to bailout.
There did that disappoint.
I wonder how you could not break out in laughter after reading your own lines!
A quick reality check: Personal preferences aside, neither Mick's single nor Crosseyed Heart created much stir outside their respective fan circles and are largely forgotten by now.
The only scenario I could imagine where CH could possibly be a blow to Mick's ego would be that CH was indeed the masterpiece you fabled (instead of being just nice and quite enjoyable imo), as such included a handful of Gimme Shelter-calibre tracks and outsold everything the Stones released in decades. That obviously happed in your wildest dreams!
But, yeah, the imagination of Mick sleepless, sitting there night and day listening to Crosseyed Heart again and again and losing his self-confidence and finally his mind over the thought how Keith could have come up with a masterpiece like that, is all to funny, I give you that.
That counts for most artist nowadays. Should they then stop creativity!!#
Clapton continues - I still do. Mostly forgotten, but still a man that wants to record new stuff - even crappy x-mas songs.
Stones, long time gone - sad. But, we must respect their decision. However, B&L shows that they still can make good records - not only to their fan-base. Sold some 2 million worldwide which is very good nowadays. Maybe B&L should be the way forward, and why not play blues covers. They have always been good to play blues covers. That's where everything started.
Would love to hear them do another Blues album, with guest musicians. Not a lot of greats left, but Jeff Beck, Jimmy Page, Taj Mahal, Jack White, Bonnie Raitt, Steven Stills, Billy Gibbons, Sonny Landreth, Derek Trucks, and John Mayer would be a great place to start. (Dang, almost the entire generation of black blues players are simply gone).
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If they're still capable of deceiving you, that's on you. This contempt thing is a chuckle. Was already wondering when Mick's ineptitude would come into it, but you never disappoint
I'm consistent, and over time my thoughts usually turn out right.
Crosseyed Heart was a blow to Mick's ego, it was shockingly good and Mick is having trouble coming to terms with the fact that Keith can deliver great music this late in the game, Mick is struggling creatively, that's evident to all but a few on here. 15 years with nothing to shout about, It happens to musicians at Mick's age, writers block is one word for it, but it's not even that, he just can't make great music anymore period. I'm not picking on him, it's just a fact. Hope the new album proves me wrong though.
What i don't understand is why don't Mick and Keith make an album up from previously unfinished tracks if they have hit a wall. There must be enough good material left that didn't make it on various albums to make a fantastic double album of originals. That's what Tattoo You was, unfinished tracks from up to a decade before.
I agree with posters above, Crosseyed Heart gives us hope, but i feel Keith efforts have been derailed for 6 years now, time to ditch this album and Keith go it alone again, this album is nothing more than a sinking ship at this stage, Keith and Ronnie need to bailout.
There did that disappoint.
I wonder how you could not break out in laughter after reading your own lines!
A quick reality check: Personal preferences aside, neither Mick's single nor Crosseyed Heart created much stir outside their respective fan circles and are largely forgotten by now.
The only scenario I could imagine where CH could possibly be a blow to Mick's ego would be that CH was indeed the masterpiece you fabled (instead of being just nice and quite enjoyable imo), as such included a handful of Gimme Shelter-calibre tracks and outsold everything the Stones released in decades. That obviously happed in your wildest dreams!
But, yeah, the imagination of Mick sleepless, sitting there night and day listening to Crosseyed Heart again and again and losing his self-confidence and finally his mind over the thought how Keith could have come up with a masterpiece like that, is all to funny, I give you that.
That counts for most artist nowadays. Should they then stop creativity!!#
Clapton continues - I still do. Mostly forgotten, but still a man that wants to record new stuff - even crappy x-mas songs.
Stones, long time gone - sad. But, we must respect their decision. However, B&L shows that they still can make good records - not only to their fan-base. Sold some 2 million worldwide which is very good nowadays. Maybe B&L should be the way forward, and why not play blues covers. They have always been good to play blues covers. That's where everything started.
Would love to hear them do another Blues album, with guest musicians. Not a lot of greats left, but Jeff Beck, Jimmy Page, Taj Mahal, Jack White, Bonnie Raitt, Steven Stills, Billy Gibbons, Sonny Landreth, Derek Trucks, and John Mayer would be a great place to start. (Dang, almost the entire generation of black blues players are simply gone).
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If they're still capable of deceiving you, that's on you. This contempt thing is a chuckle. Was already wondering when Mick's ineptitude would come into it, but you never disappoint
I'm consistent, and over time my thoughts usually turn out right.
Crosseyed Heart was a blow to Mick's ego, it was shockingly good and Mick is having trouble coming to terms with the fact that Keith can deliver great music this late in the game, Mick is struggling creatively, that's evident to all but a few on here. 15 years with nothing to shout about, It happens to musicians at Mick's age, writers block is one word for it, but it's not even that, he just can't make great music anymore period. I'm not picking on him, it's just a fact. Hope the new album proves me wrong though.
What i don't understand is why don't Mick and Keith make an album up from previously unfinished tracks if they have hit a wall. There must be enough good material left that didn't make it on various albums to make a fantastic double album of originals. That's what Tattoo You was, unfinished tracks from up to a decade before.
I agree with posters above, Crosseyed Heart gives us hope, but i feel Keith efforts have been derailed for 6 years now, time to ditch this album and Keith go it alone again, this album is nothing more than a sinking ship at this stage, Keith and Ronnie need to bailout.
There did that disappoint.
I wonder how you could not break out in laughter after reading your own lines!
A quick reality check: Personal preferences aside, neither Mick's single nor Crosseyed Heart created much stir outside their respective fan circles and are largely forgotten by now.
The only scenario I could imagine where CH could possibly be a blow to Mick's ego would be that CH was indeed the masterpiece you fabled (instead of being just nice and quite enjoyable imo), as such included a handful of Gimme Shelter-calibre tracks and outsold everything the Stones released in decades. That obviously happed in your wildest dreams!
But, yeah, the imagination of Mick sleepless, sitting there night and day listening to Crosseyed Heart again and again and losing his self-confidence and finally his mind over the thought how Keith could have come up with a masterpiece like that, is all to funny, I give you that.
That counts for most artist nowadays. Should they then stop creativity!!#
Clapton continues - I still do. Mostly forgotten, but still a man that wants to record new stuff - even crappy x-mas songs.
Stones, long time gone - sad. But, we must respect their decision. However, B&L shows that they still can make good records - not only to their fan-base. Sold some 2 million worldwide which is very good nowadays. Maybe B&L should be the way forward, and why not play blues covers. They have always been good to play blues covers. That's where everything started.
Would love to hear them do another Blues album, with guest musicians. Not a lot of greats left, but Jeff Beck, Jimmy Page, Taj Mahal, Jack White, Bonnie Raitt, Steven Stills, Billy Gibbons, Sonny Landreth, Derek Trucks, and John Mayer would be a great place to start. (Dang, almost the entire generation of black blues players are simply gone).
Yes, but they use him fairly regularly. And Keith was on his last solo album. And he had a major spot on Shine A Light. Ditto for Clapton, who did a bang up couple numbers on Blue & Lonesome, but let's give others a shot.
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I just returned from Ringo's Birthday at Capitol Records. Don Was was there, so of course I ignored Ringo to talk to him like any good Stones guy would. I asked him how the album was. "It sounds great, but it's not finished, you should hear it". My response was to hand him my card and ask him to invite me over for a listen. I'm gonna see if I can make this happen.
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Source/link to those rumors?
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Based on respective Twitter timelines, it appears that Keith has been down in the islands and Mick has been physically prepping for the tour.
I would rate this rumor as unlikely.
As always,
We.
Know.
Nothing.
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Based on respective Twitter timelines, it appears that Keith has been down in the islands and Mick has been physically prepping for the tour.
I would rate this rumor as unlikely.
As always,
We.
Know.
Nothing.
All I can say is, I hope it’s true.
For some reason I can't post a pic here now, but according to an über-fan (lots of fans know who he is, he runs a Stones museum) his friend (who saw the Stones) reported this:
– The band were in Paris early February
– They dined at Hotel Costes
– They finished their new album in Paris
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Yeaahhh!!! :-D