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TornAndFried
I'm looking forward to the limited-edition PLINK box set which includes bonus extras such as a behind-the-scenes documentary ...

No such box would ever be complete without an edition of the 60 greatest pre-show snooker matches, filmed in multiperspective hires video and with dolby surround sound that makes you feel like you're sitting right on the table ...

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Perhaps it's best not to have an album of 'new' material...they pulled it off with B&L and that was because they picked classic blues songs and whilst they obviously couldn;t improve on the originals, they managed to do some acceptable covers.

I seriously doubt that they could write a new album's worth of good material and the likely outcome will be some bad pop/rock and/or formulaic blues songs. B&L is the perfect album to say thanks and goodbye.

We are all huge fans of the band, but if we are brutally honest with ourselves, when was the last great Stones song written...I'd say Love is Strong and that's being very generous with the word great, before that then we have to go way back through the mists of time...way back.

If they are still wanting to go back in the studio and on the road, then why not stick to cover songs for any new recordings, maybe turn their attentions to some country stuff and delta blues?

I wouldn't want their last album to be anything as awful as ABB, this band has been with me for decades and their songs have seen me through some real hard years. THey don't owe me anything, or any other fans for that matter and I'd like to think the last output was a return to their roots...seems the album charts don't lie.

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The trouble these days is that most of us are, or are quickly becoming, miserable , cantankerous old buggers .

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I've said it before and I'll say it again,,if they FAIL to deliver a new album after nearly 2 decades they have simply become the world's best, no doubt, but most expensive cruise ship band ever.


Hahahahaha. Hilarious


"Just gonna splatya"



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I'm looking forward to the limited-edition PLINK box set which includes bonus extras such as a behind-the-scenes documentary ...

No such box would ever be complete without an edition of the 60 greatest pre-show snooker matches, filmed in multiperspective hires video and with dolby surround sound that makes you feel like you're sitting right on the table ...

... and then the complaints would come, about the thin sound, the remixing, the sloppy editing, again: no complete matches...

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they deserve to do whatever the freak they want to at this point,. ,which is fine with me.

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tumbled
they deserve to do whatever the freak they want to at this point,. ,which is fine with me.

agree, also I am surely not at short with good music to listen to

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wonderboy
Be interesting to see how they promote this new album.
The Who have shown how to promote yourself in today's marketplace. Their tour was nowhere near as big as a Stones tour, but it was interesting and generated lots of press. Townshend and Daltrey did a ton of interviews. As usual, Pete writes the story for the reporter, but Daltrey has also been good this round. I saw them both interviewed where Roger talked openly about how difficult Pete's addictions were, while Pete squirmed. Roger got a lot of positive press showing up in Cincinnati for memorial services.
I would really like to see the Mick and Keith out there talking to various reporters without benefit of their handlers and really just be honest. I think it could see records.
They missed a chance this year with the 50-year anniversary of Altamont and Let it Bleed. Can you imagine Mick returning to Oakland and opening up that story. Or the band returning to Muscle Shoals and cutting a new track with cameras rolling. Gimme Shelter (the movie) was huge for their career and still generates interest in the mainstream.
I think if they opened themselves up a bit and stopped presenting themselves through carefully scripted concert movies they could generate more interest.

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Stones are too lazy that is the bottom line. No more new music. Move on

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wonderboy
Be interesting to see how they promote this new album.
The Who have shown how to promote yourself in today's marketplace. Their tour was nowhere near as big as a Stones tour, but it was interesting and generated lots of press. Townshend and Daltrey did a ton of interviews. As usual, Pete writes the story for the reporter, but Daltrey has also been good this round. I saw them both interviewed where Roger talked openly about how difficult Pete's addictions were, while Pete squirmed. Roger got a lot of positive press showing up in Cincinnati for memorial services.
I would really like to see the Mick and Keith out there talking to various reporters without benefit of their handlers and really just be honest. I think it could see records.
They missed a chance this year with the 50-year anniversary of Altamont and Let it Bleed. Can you imagine Mick returning to Oakland and opening up that story. Or the band returning to Muscle Shoals and cutting a new track with cameras rolling. Gimme Shelter (the movie) was huge for their career and still generates interest in the mainstream.
I think if they opened themselves up a bit and stopped presenting themselves through carefully scripted concert movies they could generate more interest.

The Who album is COMPLETELY DOA, by the only yardstick that matters in music today, the streaming services. No one outside fandom cares. It will chart of course but the charts mean nothing cuz no one but old people buy physical music these days. it would be the same thing, unfortunately, with a new Stones album - great "press," maybe even appearances on NPR, CBS Sunday Morning, and SNL, and the album will come and go in a week or two. Mick and Keith know all this. This, alas, is the real "wall."

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However there is 'supposedly' new music (a new studio album of originals) to come from them this year.

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I don't agree about the band being lazy. For me they are anything but. However they are old, tired and way past the time when their creative juices can function at anything like the level required to deliver an album of quality new material. I also suspect that the general health of the band is some way from being robust. Just because they keep their bright side out, and perform regularly, does not mean they are as healthy as we would like.

I also believe that whatever they do regarding a new album they will be on a hiding to nothing. Anything they might produce will be shredded on arrival by most of the world. They will be accused of everything from greed to pretentiousness, and from vanity to exploitation. They will be told they are out of touch, misguided and living on their legacy. And after all of that it will, at best, sell a couple of million copies around the world. Furthermore any new material will appear only briefly, if at all, on their concert set lists before giving way to the usual warhorses. Why? Because the vast majority of those in attendance will only want to hear the big hits.

At every one of the many Stones concerts I have attended over the past dozen years I have, with sadness, observed the rapid emptying of seats whenever the band play anything other than a warhorse. That includes the less well-known numbers from Exile, Sticky Fingers, Beggars Banquet and Let It Bleed, never mind Black & Blue, Some Girls, Emotional Rescue or Undercover. As for Aftermath, Out Of Our Heads or Between The Buttons - they might as well delete those from their back catalogue.

Given all of this, can we really blame them for not putting a new studio album at the top of their list of priorities?

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Be interesting to see how they promote this new album.
The Who have shown how to promote yourself in today's marketplace. Their tour was nowhere near as big as a Stones tour, but it was interesting and generated lots of press. Townshend and Daltrey did a ton of interviews. As usual, Pete writes the story for the reporter, but Daltrey has also been good this round. I saw them both interviewed where Roger talked openly about how difficult Pete's addictions were, while Pete squirmed. Roger got a lot of positive press showing up in Cincinnati for memorial services.
I would really like to see the Mick and Keith out there talking to various reporters without benefit of their handlers and really just be honest. I think it could see records.
They missed a chance this year with the 50-year anniversary of Altamont and Let it Bleed. Can you imagine Mick returning to Oakland and opening up that story. Or the band returning to Muscle Shoals and cutting a new track with cameras rolling. Gimme Shelter (the movie) was huge for their career and still generates interest in the mainstream.
I think if they opened themselves up a bit and stopped presenting themselves through carefully scripted concert movies they could generate more interest.

The Who album is COMPLETELY DOA, by the only yardstick that matters in music today, the streaming services. No one outside fandom cares. It will chart of course but the charts mean nothing cuz no one but old people buy physical music these days. it would be the same thing, unfortunately, with a new Stones album - great "press," maybe even appearances on NPR, CBS Sunday Morning, and SNL, and the album will come and go in a week or two. Mick and Keith know all this. This, alas, is the real "wall."

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Mmmmmmmm kina disagree.. The Stones are a 'rare' breed. The only one of their kind .. Blue & Lonesome was simply supposed to be an over the holiday treat / special. It was a covers album and it chalked up to #4 on the US charts (which is impressive by any act for a 'covers album'). Over-all it was the best selling album in the whole world for a few weeks. Additionally it maintained solid sales for an extended period after release. B & L was sort of / basically a 'surprise hit' and it received plenty of attention. Not only did it surprise us ...but it also surprised Universal .. >> AND The Stones.

I'm not saying they will get Taylor Swift or Ariana Grande numbers for petes sake (lol)... BUT.... the new album will do well and will sell better than any other act approaching their age. It will be a success .. and it will garnish adequate attention for them.

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IanBillen
However there is 'supposedly' new music (a new studio album of originals) to come from them this year.

15 more days!

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GerardHennessy
I don't agree about the band being lazy. For me they are anything but. However they are old, tired and way past the time when their creative juices can function at anything like the level required to deliver an album of quality new material. I also suspect that the general health of the band is some way from being robust. Just because they keep their bright side out, and perform regularly, does not mean they are as healthy as we would like.

I also believe that whatever they do regarding a new album they will be on a hiding to nothing. Anything they might produce will be shredded on arrival by most of the world. They will be accused of everything from greed to pretentiousness, and from vanity to exploitation. They will be told they are out of touch, misguided and living on their legacy. And after all of that it will, at best, sell a couple of million copies around the world. Furthermore any new material will appear only briefly, if at all, on their concert set lists before giving way to the usual warhorses. Why? Because the vast majority of those in attendance will only want to hear the big hits.

At every one of the many Stones concerts I have attended over the past dozen years I have, with sadness, observed the rapid emptying of seats whenever the band play anything other than a warhorse. That includes the less well-known numbers from Exile, Sticky Fingers, Beggars Banquet and Let It Bleed, never mind Black & Blue, Some Girls, Emotional Rescue or Undercover. As for Aftermath, Out Of Our Heads or Between The Buttons - they might as well delete those from their back catalogue.

Given all of this, can we really blame them for not putting a new studio album at the top of their list of priorities?

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Rip This
B & L convinced me that they can put together a live sound in the studio that is still COMPELLING.... AUTHENTIC....that's what fans want....and if they deliver that....then they will be successful....yes even with new music...

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Hairball
But it seems some fans want experimental/artificial technologically advanced sterile sounding contemporary/state of the art mumbo jumbo.

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Hairball
But it seems some fans want experimental/artificial technologically advanced sterile sounding contemporary/state of the art mumbo jumbo.

YES!!!

that is exactly what we want mr hb -- thx for articulating it so clearly!

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