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Rocky Dijon
Jody is his son actually (unless you meant Robin, if so - apologies) and I don't think there's been a book or will be. Jody might not be his Dad, but they're a family that likes to keep relatively low profiles. Think of Belushi talking to himself in the mirror as Ron Decline in THE RUTLES ("I want to protect you from people like me").
There is a book by Fred Goodman
[www.amazon.com]
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Ket
I'm shocked at how many "experts' we have here on the current inner workings of the current Rolling Stones.
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jahisnotdead
Mick and Keith seem to be planning the grand finale of the Jagger/Richards songwriting career but just can't seem to get on the same page. I listen to Blue & Lonesome and can't help but wonder what they sounded like recording the new material.
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angee
And I love the last part of your post. I wonder who is paying this fellow of Alternative Nation to publish his pasted-together, lifted quotes (some from here) and made up filler? How does he get this junk on all our phones?
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jahisnotdead
You don't have to be an expert or an insider to know Mick brings in finished songs that Keith doesn't want to overdub guitar parts onto anymore; and that Keith wants to spend time jamming away endlessly until something comes down his antenna, something Mick doesn't seem to have the patience to do anymore.
So, it's an impasse.
I think Mick never should have let the others listen to his demos. Mick should have just pretended to bring in the germ an "unfinished" song, let Keith hammer away at the idea for a few days, then Mick could "suggest" something to add to it (something he's already written well before the fact). Keith might be fooled into thinking that Mick came up with the addition on the spot and that they were "writing" the song together.
What else can they do? Bring in other songwriters, maybe let Matt Clifford or Ron Wood or Steve Jordan get a co-writing credit on a couple of tracks? But Mick and Keith seem to be planning the grand finale of the Jagger/Richards songwriting career but just can't seem to get on the same page. I listen to Blue & Lonesome and can't help but wonder what they sounded like recording the new material.
I'm not an expert or an insider. There's nothing I would rather do than be proven wrong, and tomorrow there would be an announcement of a double album of all killer tracks and grand plans for a live show of the Rolling Stones playing their new album in its entirety.
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peoplewitheyes
Sticky again?
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Rocky Dijon
And if ALTERNATIVE NATION quotes chunks of this in their amateurish click-bait news articles that keep turning up on my cell phone, please include the remark that ALTERNATIVE NATION makes WEEKLY WORLD NEWS look like THE WALL STREET JOURNAL.
... and also a lot of imagination!You know very well that the forum is full of Keith fans and Mick fans, objectivity is something else.Quote
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Ket
I'm shocked at how many "experts' we have here on the current inner workings of the current Rolling Stones.
I think we have many knowledgeable Stones fans here, including some experts (not me.)
Most of us know enough of the basic facts to make pretty reasonable speculation.
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Spud
I think we would all concur that most of their best work was recorded when they were virtually holed up together in Olympic Studios or a big old house in France for weeks on end without a clean pair of socks.
...and that scenario isn't going to be repeated today
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Bungo
I'm sure no one will believe this but I'm gonna lay it out there anyway :
Last week I was sipping Tequila at the pool in Hotel California in Todos Santos Mexico when a chap sat down near me and with little else to do we started chatting. Long story short it turns out he is close to the recording process of the new Stones record (engineer or studio technician or something) and he goes in to saying how incredible the new songs are, "classic drug fueled Stones" I believe he described them, "right up there with Sticky Fingers or Exile". He also mentioned something about Keith not letting Mick inject any of his silly "techno pop rubbish" onto what may very well be their last studio effort.
Anyway, make of it what you will,even though some good Mexican blow, weed and Tequila were present during the conversation.
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Spud
I think we would all concur that most of their best work was recorded when they were virtually holed up together ia big old house in France for weeks on end.
...and that scenario isn't going to be repeated today
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jahisnotdead
You don't have to be an expert or an insider to know Mick brings in finished songs that Keith doesn't want to overdub guitar parts onto anymore; and that Keith wants to spend time jamming away endlessly until something comes down his antenna, something Mick doesn't seem to have the patience to do anymore.
So, it's an impasse.
I think Mick never should have let the others listen to his demos. Mick should have just pretended to bring in the germ an "unfinished" song, let Keith hammer away at the idea for a few days, then Mick could "suggest" something to add to it (something he's already written well before the fact). Keith might be fooled into thinking that Mick came up with the addition on the spot and that they were "writing" the song together.
What else can they do? Bring in other songwriters, maybe let Matt Clifford or Ron Wood or Steve Jordan get a co-writing credit on a couple of tracks? But Mick and Keith seem to be planning the grand finale of the Jagger/Richards songwriting career but just can't seem to get on the same page. I listen to Blue & Lonesome and can't help but wonder what they sounded like recording the new material.
I'm not an expert or an insider. There's nothing I would rather do than be proven wrong, and tomorrow there would be an announcement of a double album of all killer tracks and grand plans for a live show of the Rolling Stones playing their new album in its entirety.
On surface, this surely looks like a nice idea. But in reality - doesn't it resemble a bored housewife pretending orgams while bonking her husband? I mean, even the dumbest of husbands will check sooner or later that he's fooled. And I consider Keith as an extremeley intelligent person. "Fooled again by Mick - and I don't like it!"
If I were Mick, I would try another route: I would donate a full month of my precious time to spend time in the studio with the band to have Keith his way. If the outcome would be anything worthwile, not to speak of another classic Stones album or at least a handful of classic Stones tracks, fine. If the month together would lead to nothing, then - fine, that's it for once and for all time, either we do it my way now - working on stuff I prepared to save time and money - or let's simply forget it. We're done with any studio work. Let's enjoy playing live as long as we can and counting the incoming cash. And let's concentrate on our archives from now on instead of trying to re-light the fire that went out already decades ago.
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retired_dog
That's the romantic view of things... The cold & imo probably more realistic view is that most of their best work was recorded when they were young, full of energy & vision, were under pressure to prove something and had strict timelines to follow and tough deadlines to meet.
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Rocky Dijon
These same folks will also buy the deluxe edition with [..]