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django
And please .... no "baby baby baby, honey honey honey" lyrics by Keith
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Erik_Snow
MY dream is an album with Schlager music.
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MY dream is an album with Schlager music.
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Hairball
No wonder Mick and Keith are having trouble being on the same page - one thinks he's Peter Pan, while the other chooses to age gracefully.
It's been evident for years now as far as original songwriting goes, and the only common denominator they have left is old blues tunes - yet even Mick seemed hesitant/reluctant/sheepish to go down that route.
Mick is certainly Peter Pan. I don't really understand how one thinks Captain Hook is an example of growing old gracefully. They're both "Lost Boys." That friction makes up their chemistry when they get it right.
Mick was hesitant to record a blues album? Let's see...Mick records a blues album for Atlantic with The Red Devils. The same year he organizes and headlines a blues festival in England and plays a blues set backed by Gary Moore's Midnight Blues Band, invites Ronnie and Charlie to join them, and records the set for potential release as well.
Mick and the rest of the Stones cut a track with B. B. King a few years later and, also during these sessions that produced B2B, he and Keith cut a few tracks with Jimmy Rogers.
In 2007 when unearthing a track from The Red Devils album, Mick makes it known that if his solo anthology sells well enough, Rhino/Atlantic will release The Red Devils set. He also makes the b-side with Gary Moore available again as a download.
When working on the SOME GIRLS deluxe edition, Mick notes he's been writing a lot of blues lately. When the band reconvenes for rehearsals in December 2011, they play a lot of Chess blues. Mick then plays a set of blues at The White House in the same week that Keith plays a set of blues at The Apollo and Ronnie plays a set of blues in London. All as a lead-up to putting the band back together in 2012. They cut BLUE AND LONESOME in Knopfler's award-winning studio acclaimed for its refurbished retro consoles.
To my thinking, believing Mick was reluctant to make BLUE AND LONESOME seems absolutely the wrong conclusion to draw from all of this.
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24FPS
Almost to four hundred pages about an album that doesn't exist! Go, go!
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Hairball
Seems a no-brainer that Mick would have preferred the band finish and release an album of originals vs. a blues covers album, while Keith on the other hand was ready and willing to do a Blue and Lonesome pt. II.
Mick made his feelings clear way back when by saying: " We didn’t want to do blues forever...what’s the point in listening to us doing “I’m A King Bee” when you can listen to Slim Harpo doing it"?
And the Red Devils project has never seen the light of day (except for one track buried on a compilation), so yeah there seems to be some hesitation when Mick is involved with the blues.
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LazarusSmith
I'm sure that there is a perfectly acceptable slice of the multiverse in which these views holds sway. In my little corner of space-time however:
--BOTH Mick and Keith wanted to release an album of originals
--BOTH agreed to work on and release a blues album once the sessions broke down
--AFTER the release of B&L, there's no evidence to suggest that Keith's preference was to release a 2nd album of blues covers instead of an album of originals
--In 1968, Mick's "King Bee" comment represents the depth of his acknowledgement of the sanctity of those blues masters both he and Keith revere -- why would anyone prefer their version to the original, anyway?
--In their bones, both Mick and Keith know that they have about as much in common musically, spiritually, and culturally with Robert Johnson as Donny Osmond does with Duke Ellington.
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Hairball
Seems a no-brainer that Mick would have preferred the band finish and release an album of originals vs. a blues covers album, while Keith on the other hand was ready and willing to do a Blue and Lonesome pt. II.
Mick made his feelings clear way back when by saying: " We didn’t want to do blues forever...what’s the point in listening to us doing “I’m A King Bee” when you can listen to Slim Harpo doing it"?
And the Red Devils project has never seen the light of day (except for one track buried on a compilation), so yeah there seems to be some hesitation when Mick is involved with the blues.
I'm sure that there is a perfectly acceptable slice of the multiverse in which these views holds sway. In my little corner of space-time however:
--BOTH Mick and Keith wanted to release an album of originals
--BOTH agreed to work on and release a blues album once the sessions broke down
--AFTER the release of B&L, there's no evidence to suggest that Keith's preference was to release a 2nd album of blues covers instead of an album of originals
--In 1968, Mick's "King Bee" comment represents the depth of his acknowledgement of the sanctity of those blues masters both he and Keith revere -- why would anyone prefer their version to the original, anyway?
--In their bones, both Mick and Keith know that they have about as much in common musically, spiritually, and culturally with Robert Johnson as Donny Osmond does with Duke Ellington.
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Rocky Dijon
Much as I enjoy taking the opposite side from Hairball, I do recall the Keith quote suggesting they should consider doing another BLUE AND LONESOME. And in fairness to the much missed Revvy Twennyredlights - he said it before Keith.
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24FPS
Almost to four hundred pages about an album that doesn't exist! Go, go!
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Hairball
They could title it "And in the end..."
No title, just "The Rolling Stones" like the very first one. That would be cool.
And please .... no "baby baby baby, honey honey honey" lyrics by Keith
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24FPS
Almost to four hundred pages about an album that doesn't exist! Go, go!
The bible is 1200 pages about a god that doesn't exist.
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Erik_Snow
Could be a success, especially on that medley that'd feature 20 sec of some of their biggest hits.
....and if they did a tour to follow the album; they'd do that medley (in Schlager formula) on one of them stages that goes round and round WITH them guest stars. But I'd a little frightened about Jagger feeling that Bata Illic is stealing the show
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Erik_Snow
Could be a success, especially on that medley that'd feature 20 sec of some of their biggest hits.
....and if they did a tour to follow the album; they'd do that medley (in Schlager formula) on one of them stages that goes round and round WITH them guest stars. But I'd a little frightened about Jagger feeling that Bata Illic is stealing the show
I believed Bata Illic was dead, but after checking the net I am able - with great relief - to announce that he's not, but still alive and kicking. So, yes, he would be available if Jagger overcomes his "stealing the show" fright.
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24FPS
Almost to four hundred pages about an album that doesn't exist! Go, go!
The bible is 1200 pages about a god that doesn't exist.
Be brave. Go pick on the Koran instead. Baiting the turn the other cheek crowd doesn't make you a tough guy. Meantime, this is supposed to be about whether or not the senior citizens will finish the album they started, not whether or not religion has any validity.
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Could be a success, especially on that medley that'd feature 20 sec of some of their biggest hits.
....and if they did a tour to follow the album; they'd do that medley (in Schlager formula) on one of them stages that goes round and round WITH them guest stars. But I'd a little frightened about Jagger feeling that Bata Illic is stealing the show
I believed Bata Illic was dead, but after checking the net I am able - with great relief - to announce that he's not, but still alive and kicking. So, yes, he would be available if Jagger overcomes his "stealing the show" fright.
Then there is still hope!!
To give us "hard core fans" value for our money, I'd suggest making "Da doo run run" being the main thingy of the medley, so it won't be warhorses only. Maybe 5 minutes of that one
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Erik_Snow
Could be a success, especially on that medley that'd feature 20 sec of some of their biggest hits.
....and if they did a tour to follow the album; they'd do that medley (in Schlager formula) on one of them stages that goes round and round WITH them guest stars. But I'd a little frightened about Jagger feeling that Bata Illic is stealing the show
I believed Bata Illic was dead, but after checking the net I am able - with great relief - to announce that he's not, but still alive and kicking. So, yes, he would be available if Jagger overcomes his "stealing the show" fright.
Then there is still hope!!
To give us "hard core fans" value for our money, I'd suggest making "Da doo run run" being the main thingy of the medley, so it won't be warhorses only. Maybe 5 minutes of that one
Good, even splendid idea! May I suggest a duet with Helene Fischer, despite her "modern aura" a duet on "Atemlos durch die Nacht" with an english title "Breathless Through The Night" could give them a long-lost "dangerous edge" again, in particular if all major chords are turned into minor plus Mick adding a "Gimme Shelter"-like harmonica part.
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z
Seems like You are the "tough guy" here... You got it all wrong.