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Aware that I am in a minority of very few on this forum, I still appreciated the two songs in their released maxi single format as more interesting and attractive than the third studio album by his vetoing band collegue.
Good for you! For me, both songs were on par with Let's Work and Charmed Life, unfortunately. But I bought the 45" vinyl...
I can think of some of Jagger's as well as Richards' solo songs that I actually dislike more than the four songs mentioned here.
Might well be, but we're still in the bottom of the barrel here
That depends on the number of songs
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Aware that I am in a minority of very few on this forum, I still appreciated the two songs in their released maxi single format as more interesting and attractive than the third studio album by his vetoing band collegue.
Good for you! For me, both songs were on par with Let's Work and Charmed Life, unfortunately. But I bought the 45" vinyl...
I can think of some of Jagger's as well as Richards' solo songs that I actually dislike more than the four songs mentioned here.
Might well be, but we're still in the bottom of the barrel here
I disagree that "Gotta Get a Grip" or " England Lost" are at any bottom. Out of Mick's songs,however, there is "Gun". Maybe Keith's last album contains songs that are not bad or weak as such. But the album to me is so boring. Does that make the verdict so much better?
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Aware that I am in a minority of very few on this forum, I still appreciated the two songs in their released maxi single format as more interesting and attractive than the third studio album by his vetoing band collegue.
Good for you! For me, both songs were on par with Let's Work and Charmed Life, unfortunately. But I bought the 45" vinyl...
I can think of some of Jagger's as well as Richards' solo songs that I actually dislike more than the four songs mentioned here.
Might well be, but we're still in the bottom of the barrel here
I disagree that "Gotta Get a Grip" or " England Lost" are at any bottom. Out of Mick's songs,however, there is "Gun". Maybe Keith's last album contains songs that are not bad or weak as such. But the album to me is so boring. Does that make the verdict so much better?
We like different things. I love guitar playing, for instance. GGG and EL are not interesting for me, melody-wise or performance/production-wise.
There is a lot of exciting things going on on Crosseyed Heart for me, both in terms of songwriting and guitar playing. So I won't be bored there.
That said, I really like a lot of Mick’s solo stuff. But I can't stand melodyless tunes with a daft groove going nowhere. There's a HUGE leap in quality from GGG to Dancing In The Starlight (a comparable tune), for instance. The latter has a good melody, a hook, a good groove and is performed well, imo.
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EL was not just about football. Politics as well. Pretty clever lyrically (but I don't like the melody).
As I said, sometimes we might be looking for different things in songs. Nothing wrong with that.
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You two are way to positive, in your own ways.
I really dislike both England Lost, Crosseyed Heart, Gotta Get A Grip, Nick Cave and even football,
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The Stones have been lazy when it comes to recording and in the past four or five years lazy as well as dismissive.
Look guys (and gals) I'm tired about hearing how The poor Rolling Stones only have so much time to themselves or to do what they want outside of the band.
They simply were lazy and dismissive about actually putting in the work .. it's just that simple.
Artists create .. Dylan .. Bowie .. Young .. Cohen .. McCartney ... several other old acts ... the list goes on. They have (had) no issue playing live and recording material ..
Just making sure we are all on the same page with that. I love The Stones more than any other act .. but I will not make excuses for them .. Nor will I reach to find any other reasons other than those that are truly what they are.
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Ian Billen- the Hiroo Onoda of Stones fans.
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The Stones have been lazy when it comes to recording and in the past four or five years lazy as well as dismissive.
Look guys (and gals) I'm tired about hearing how The poor Rolling Stones only have so much time to themselves or to do what they want outside of the band.
They simply were lazy and dismissive about actually putting in the work .. it's just that simple.
Artists create .. Dylan .. Bowie .. Young .. Cohen .. McCartney ... several other old acts ... the list goes on. They have (had) no issue playing live and recording material ..
Just making sure we are all on the same page with that. I love The Stones more than any other act .. but I will not make excuses for them .. Nor will I reach to find any other reasons other than those that are truly what they are.
Agree here, but the artists mentioned are essentially solo artists with basically
one ego for decision making. The stones need to find agreement amongst four people - although I suspect it’s mostly among two. However, the Who are about to release a new album - but with the Who, I believe Pete is the man in charge. There must be some other comparable examples though...I just can’t think of them
at the moment.
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The Stones have been lazy when it comes to recording and in the past four or five years lazy as well as dismissive.
Look guys (and gals) I'm tired about hearing how The poor Rolling Stones only have so much time to themselves or to do what they want outside of the band.
They simply were lazy and dismissive about actually putting in the work .. it's just that simple.
Artists create .. Dylan .. Bowie .. Young .. Cohen .. McCartney ... several other old acts ... the list goes on. They have (had) no issue playing live and recording material ..
Just making sure we are all on the same page with that. I love The Stones more than any other act .. but I will not make excuses for them .. Nor will I reach to find any other reasons other than those that are truly what they are.
Agree here, but the artists mentioned are essentially solo artists with basically
one ego for decision making. The stones need to find agreement amongst four people - although I suspect it’s mostly among two. However, the Who are about to release a new album - but with the Who, I believe Pete is the man in charge. There must be some other comparable examples though...I just can’t think of them
at the moment.
Right, and that's why Mick did release a single and the Stones didn't. Btw, if the measure of productivity is The Who, then all hope is gone indeed.
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The Stones have been lazy when it comes to recording and in the past four or five years lazy as well as dismissive.
Look guys (and gals) I'm tired about hearing how The poor Rolling Stones only have so much time to themselves or to do what they want outside of the band.
They simply were lazy and dismissive about actually putting in the work .. it's just that simple.
Artists create .. Dylan .. Bowie .. Young .. Cohen .. McCartney ... several other old acts ... the list goes on. They have (had) no issue playing live and recording material ..
Just making sure we are all on the same page with that. I love The Stones more than any other act .. but I will not make excuses for them .. Nor will I reach to find any other reasons other than those that are truly what they are.
Agree here, but the artists mentioned are essentially solo artists with basically
one ego for decision making. The stones need to find agreement amongst four people - although I suspect it’s mostly among two. However, the Who are about to release a new album - but with the Who, I believe Pete is the man in charge. There must be some other comparable examples though...I just can’t think of them
at the moment.
Right, and that's why Mick did release a single and the Stones didn't. Btw, if the measure of productivity is The Who, then all hope is gone indeed.
Haha - true about the Who but at least it’s on the way though. However, Pete
may decide he hates it by this time next year. Pete’s an artist and seemingly
never quite satisfied. From the tracks I have heard it sounds great and worth
the wait.
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Based on nothing, but hey.
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Ian Billen- the Hiroo Onoda of Stones fans.
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The Stones have been lazy when it comes to recording and in the past four or five years lazy as well as dismissive.
Look guys (and gals) I'm tired about hearing how The poor Rolling Stones only have so much time to themselves or to do what they want outside of the band.
They simply were lazy and dismissive about actually putting in the work .. it's just that simple.
Artists create .. Dylan .. Bowie .. Young .. Cohen .. McCartney ... several other old acts ... the list goes on. They have (had) no issue playing live and recording material ..
Just making sure we are all on the same page with that. I love The Stones more than any other act .. but I will not make excuses for them .. Nor will I reach to find any other reasons other than those that are truly what they are.
Agree here, but the artists mentioned are essentially solo artists with basically
one ego for decision making. The stones need to find agreement amongst four people - although I suspect it’s mostly among two. However, the Who are about to release a new album - but with the Who, I believe Pete is the man in charge. There must be some other comparable examples though...I just can’t think of them
at the moment.
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RONNIE WOOD on RTL FRANCE LVT: .the rolling stones next album should come out next year. It's just new songs it takes time...
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RONNIE WOOD on RTL FRANCE LVT: .the rolling stones next album should come out next year. It's just new songs it takes time...
Great, but I don't like the word "should"...
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RONNIE WOOD on RTL FRANCE LVT: .the rolling stones next album should come out next year. It's just new songs it takes time...
Great, but I don't like the word "should"...
It should (but maybe it won't...)