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The album was lame, but the tour was great!
Was it a "magical" comeback? Perhaps so, but mainly due to the tour.
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The album was lame, but the tour was great!
Was it a "magical" comeback? Perhaps so, but mainly due to the tour.
It's definitely not a great Stones album by any means but a lot of the songs felt fresh and the group felt revitalized, especially after UNDERCOVER and DIRTY WORK.
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Hairball
The album was lame, but the tour was great!
Was it a "magical" comeback? Perhaps so, but mainly due to the tour.
It's definitely not a great Stones album by any means but a lot of the songs felt fresh and the group felt revitalized, especially after UNDERCOVER and DIRTY WORK.
You seem to be speaking from experience as if you were around at the time of it's release Jordy, but aren't you just 24? Is this something your dad told you?
From my experience the songs felt sterile and non-Stonesy - my friend and I were thrilled to have a new Stones album and had a listening party, but the party didn't last very long.
Yes there were/are a couple of decent tunes (Terrifying, Almost Hear You Sigh, Slipping Away), but hearing it when it was first released was for the most part sad, sad, sad!
Undercover was better imo, and a shame they never did tour with that album.
EDIT: As for Dirty Work, only liked Harlem Shuffle alot - then and now, and maybe Too Rude, but the Stones have never been that great with reggae imo.
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the songs felt fresh and the group felt revitalized
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the songs felt fresh and the group felt revitalized
I would say the same about BEGGARS BANQUET and I wasn't yet born when "Brown Sugar" was released. I know Jordy is young, but fans form opinions whether they were there the first time around or not. It's part of being a fan.
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The album was lame, but the tour was great!
Was it a "magical" comeback? Perhaps so, but mainly due to the tour.
It's definitely not a great Stones album by any means but a lot of the songs felt fresh and the group felt revitalized, especially after UNDERCOVER and DIRTY WORK.
You seem to be speaking from experience as if you were around at the time of it's release Jordy, but aren't you just 24? Is this something your dad told you?
From my experience the songs felt sterile and non-Stonesy - my friend and I were thrilled to have a new Stones album and had a listening party, but the party didn't last very long.
Yes there were/are a couple of decent tunes (Terrifying, Almost Hear You Sigh, Slipping Away), but hearing it when it was first released was for the most part sad, sad, sad!
Undercover was better imo, and a shame they never did tour with that album.
EDIT: As for Dirty Work, only liked Harlem Shuffle alot - then and now, and maybe Too Rude, but the Stones have never been that great with reggae imo.
I'm 23 lol. That's actually just my own opinion on how I feel about the album. My dad would agree with me, but that's something I've learned through my own listenings of the Stones catalogue. I mean UNDERCOVER and DIRTY WORK were not popular albums by any means and sub-par by Stones standards. Like I said, STEEL WHEELS in my opinion is not a great Stones album, but it feels like what it set out to accomplish and that was the feeling of a comeback, which continued on through the STEEL WHEELS/URBAN JUNGLE Tours.
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Hairball
The album was lame, but the tour was great!
Was it a "magical" comeback? Perhaps so, but mainly due to the tour.
It's definitely not a great Stones album by any means but a lot of the songs felt fresh and the group felt revitalized, especially after UNDERCOVER and DIRTY WORK.
You seem to be speaking from experience as if you were around at the time of it's release Jordy, but aren't you just 24? Is this something your dad told you?
From my experience the songs felt sterile and non-Stonesy - my friend and I were thrilled to have a new Stones album and had a listening party, but the party didn't last very long.
Yes there were/are a couple of decent tunes (Terrifying, Almost Hear You Sigh, Slipping Away), but hearing it when it was first released was for the most part sad, sad, sad!
Undercover was better imo, and a shame they never did tour with that album.
EDIT: As for Dirty Work, only liked Harlem Shuffle alot - then and now, and maybe Too Rude, but the Stones have never been that great with reggae imo.
I'm 23 lol. That's actually just my own opinion on how I feel about the album. My dad would agree with me, but that's something I've learned through my own listenings of the Stones catalogue. I mean UNDERCOVER and DIRTY WORK were not popular albums by any means and sub-par by Stones standards. Like I said, STEEL WHEELS in my opinion is not a great Stones album, but it feels like what it set out to accomplish and that was the feeling of a comeback, which continued on through the STEEL WHEELS/URBAN JUNGLE Tours.
Only 23! It was the past tense wording which made it sound as if you were speaking from past experience of the period it was released, but I suppose I misread it.
Only 23! When I was that age, it was during the drought of live Stones shows , the year Dirty Work was released, and sandwiched between two of Micks crappy solo albums...a dreadful time to be a Stones fan really.
So goes without saying not much fun happening back in Stonesland in those days, so you might consider yourself lucky you didn't have to experience it all firsthand.
I still don't think the Steel Wheels album was a "magical comeback" to use your previous words, but yes it was a comeback of sorts. The dismal Dirty Work was released only three years prior, and the so-so Undercover just three years prior to that, so at least they were still releasing albums on a semi-regular basis back then unlike today. Even hitting walls back then didn't stop them! If it sucked, they released it anyways!
The REAL "magical comeback" (imo) was the fact they were going to tour again which they hadn't done in seven years - an eternity back then.
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Did you feel like the '89 tour was the end for the Stones? Like they had this "reunion" of sorts but after it was all said and done, they'd retire?
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Did you feel like the '89 tour was the end for the Stones? Like they had this "reunion" of sorts but after it was all said and done, they'd retire?
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Did you feel like the '89 tour was the end for the Stones? Like they had this "reunion" of sorts but after it was all said and done, they'd retire?
No it didn't feel like the end at all. On the contrary, it felt like a new beginning. After all the bad vibes, they were back with a bang with a massive tour, and the future was bright again.
Sure enough, another album and another massive tour with Voodoo Lounge just a few years later. And following that, another new album and another massive tour with Bridges just another quick few years later.
And following that, no new album but a few new songs slapped on to Licks, and one of the best formatted tours ever seeing them playing clubs, theaters, arenas, and stadiums (I was fortunate to see quite a few that tour).
Hoping you get to see them again Jordy, and whether they ever release a new album or not doesn't matter much at this point, though it would be nice.
Rumours are strong that they'll be back touring again in 2020, while the thought of them releasing a new album isn't really a sure bet.
EDIT: Just saw Jah Paul's reply - I must have been typing while he was posting. Good to see we had a similar perspective regarding the Stones c.'89.
But for the sake of it, imagine if the Stones had announced a final tour in '89 ala The Who in 1982...well we know how that went. And the Eagles Farewell Tour...
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Did you feel like the '89 tour was the end for the Stones? Like they had this "reunion" of sorts but after it was all said and done, they'd retire?
No it didn't feel like the end at all. On the contrary, it felt like a new beginning. After all the bad vibes, they were back with a bang with a massive tour, and the future was bright again.
Sure enough, another album and another massive tour with Voodoo Lounge just a few years later. And following that, another new album and another massive tour with Bridges just another quick few years later.
And following that, no new album but a few new songs slapped on to Licks, and one of the best formatted tours ever seeing them playing clubs, theaters, arenas, and stadiums (I was fortunate to see quite a few that tour).
Hoping you get to see them again Jordy, and whether they ever release a new album or not doesn't matter much at this point, though it would be nice.
Rumours are strong that they'll be back touring again in 2020, while the thought of them releasing a new album isn't really a sure bet.
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KRiffhard
I consider Steel Wheels a good album which would have been great with 'Highwire' (imo a great first single),'Fancyman blues' and 'For your precious love'.
Highwire first single and then Mixed Emotions...i think that the general opinion about this album would have been different.
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The album was lame, but the tour was great!
Was it a "magical" comeback? Perhaps so, but mainly due to the tour.
It's definitely not a great Stones album by any means but a lot of the songs felt fresh and the group felt revitalized, especially after UNDERCOVER and DIRTY WORK.
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georgelicks
Steel Wheels was a success in the US, it was Top 10 during 4 months, 3 singles were #1 in the Rock Airplay Chart, the first single was a Top 5 hit, and it went Double Platinum after only 18 weeks.
Sadly, it was the last time the band was relevant in the US market.
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The album was lame, but the tour was great!
Was it a "magical" comeback? Perhaps so, but mainly due to the tour.
It's definitely not a great Stones album by any means but a lot of the songs felt fresh and the group felt revitalized, especially after UNDERCOVER and DIRTY WORK.
You seem to be speaking from experience as if you were around at the time of it's release Jordy, but aren't you just 24? Is this something your dad told you?
From my experience the songs felt sterile and non-Stonesy - my friend and I were thrilled to have a new Stones album and had a listening party, but the party didn't last very long.
Yes there were/are a couple of decent tunes (Terrifying, Almost Hear You Sigh, Slipping Away), but hearing it when it was first released was for the most part sad, sad, sad!
Undercover was better imo, and a shame they never did tour with that album.
EDIT: As for Dirty Work, only liked Harlem Shuffle alot - then and now, and maybe Too Rude, but the Stones have never been that great with reggae imo.
I'm 23 lol. That's actually just my own opinion on how I feel about the album. My dad would agree with me, but that's something I've learned through my own listenings of the Stones catalogue. I mean UNDERCOVER and DIRTY WORK were not popular albums by any means and sub-par by Stones standards. Like I said, STEEL WHEELS in my opinion is not a great Stones album, but it feels like what it set out to accomplish and that was the feeling of a comeback, which continued on through the STEEL WHEELS/URBAN JUNGLE Tours.
Only 23! It was the past tense wording which made it sound as if you were speaking from past experience of the period it was released, but I suppose I misread it.
Only 23! When I was that age, it was during the drought of live Stones shows , the year Dirty Work was released, and sandwiched between two of Micks crappy solo albums...a dreadful time to be a Stones fan really.
So goes without saying not much fun happening back in Stonesland in those days, so you might consider yourself lucky you didn't have to experience it all firsthand.
I still don't think the Steel Wheels album was a "magical comeback" to use your previous words, but yes it was a comeback of sorts. The dismal Dirty Work was released only three years prior, and the so-so Undercover just three years prior to that, so at least they were still releasing albums on a semi-regular basis back then unlike today. Even hitting walls back then didn't stop them! If it sucked, they released it anyways!
The REAL "magical comeback" (imo) was the fact they were going to tour again which they hadn't done in seven years - an eternity back then.
It must have been amazing to see the Stones during the '89 tour. I think it was Mick who said before the '69 tour that they were more of the touring band, as opposed to The Beatles who had stopped touring for good in '66. Did you feel like the '89 tour was the end for the Stones? Like they had this "reunion" of sorts but after it was all said and done, they'd retire?
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.. I mean the show /stage was sort of dangerous. Explosions / Cannons at the start almost knocked people off their chairs up front .. sparks flew on the folks up front During Rock and a Hard Place etc ... Nobody saw anything like that before it.
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The album was lame, but the tour was great!
Was it a "magical" comeback? Perhaps so, but mainly due to the tour.
It's definitely not a great Stones album by any means but a lot of the songs felt fresh and the group felt revitalized, especially after UNDERCOVER and DIRTY WORK.
You seem to be speaking from experience as if you were around at the time of it's release Jordy, but aren't you just 24? Is this something your dad told you?
From my experience the songs felt sterile and non-Stonesy - my friend and I were thrilled to have a new Stones album and had a listening party, but the party didn't last very long.
Yes there were/are a couple of decent tunes (Terrifying, Almost Hear You Sigh, Slipping Away), but hearing it when it was first released was for the most part sad, sad, sad!
Undercover was better imo, and a shame they never did tour with that album.
EDIT: As for Dirty Work, only liked Harlem Shuffle alot - then and now, and maybe Too Rude, but the Stones have never been that great with reggae imo.
I'm 23 lol. That's actually just my own opinion on how I feel about the album. My dad would agree with me, but that's something I've learned through my own listenings of the Stones catalogue. I mean UNDERCOVER and DIRTY WORK were not popular albums by any means and sub-par by Stones standards. Like I said, STEEL WHEELS in my opinion is not a great Stones album, but it feels like what it set out to accomplish and that was the feeling of a comeback, which continued on through the STEEL WHEELS/URBAN JUNGLE Tours.
Only 23! It was the past tense wording which made it sound as if you were speaking from past experience of the period it was released, but I suppose I misread it.
Only 23! When I was that age, it was during the drought of live Stones shows , the year Dirty Work was released, and sandwiched between two of Micks crappy solo albums...a dreadful time to be a Stones fan really.
So goes without saying not much fun happening back in Stonesland in those days, so you might consider yourself lucky you didn't have to experience it all firsthand.
I still don't think the Steel Wheels album was a "magical comeback" to use your previous words, but yes it was a comeback of sorts. The dismal Dirty Work was released only three years prior, and the so-so Undercover just three years prior to that, so at least they were still releasing albums on a semi-regular basis back then unlike today. Even hitting walls back then didn't stop them! If it sucked, they released it anyways!
The REAL "magical comeback" (imo) was the fact they were going to tour again which they hadn't done in seven years - an eternity back then.
It must have been amazing to see the Stones during the '89 tour. I think it was Mick who said before the '69 tour that they were more of the touring band, as opposed to The Beatles who had stopped touring for good in '66. Did you feel like the '89 tour was the end for the Stones? Like they had this "reunion" of sorts but after it was all said and done, they'd retire?
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Steel Wheels I'll sum it up .. I lived it: ... It was a definite 'return' vibe ..at least for right then (not an official comeback vibe .. thankfully). SW didn't create a finality vibe or one off speculation from the people who saw it or the critics .. it created a 'here and now' vibe that was untouchable at that time. After seeing Steel Wheels We all thought .. well sure .. I guess it could be the final .. or... perhaps they could very easily continue? (and they did thankfully). Steel Wheels was the best concert I ever saw (and I've been to A LOT!). It was raw .. scary ..even a little dangerous ...not even so much the crowd (though ya had to be wary .. it was a Stones Show) .. I mean the show /stage was sort of dangerous. Explosions / Cannons at the start almost knocked people off their chairs up front .. sparks flew on the folks up front During Rock and a Hard Place etc ... Nobody saw anything like that before it. We all wondered how they were going to be now and what the show would be like. I remember being a little surprised it would be a night show in a stadium.
Steel Wheels blew us away -
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The album was lame, but the tour was great!
Was it a "magical" comeback? Perhaps so, but mainly due to the tour.
It's definitely not a great Stones album by any means but a lot of the songs felt fresh and the group felt revitalized, especially after UNDERCOVER and DIRTY WORK.
You seem to be speaking from experience as if you were around at the time of it's release Jordy, but aren't you just 24? Is this something your dad told you?
From my experience the songs felt sterile and non-Stonesy - my friend and I were thrilled to have a new Stones album and had a listening party, but the party didn't last very long.
Yes there were/are a couple of decent tunes (Terrifying, Almost Hear You Sigh, Slipping Away), but hearing it when it was first released was for the most part sad, sad, sad!
Undercover was better imo, and a shame they never did tour with that album.
EDIT: As for Dirty Work, only liked Harlem Shuffle alot - then and now, and maybe Too Rude, but the Stones have never been that great with reggae imo.
I'm 23 lol. That's actually just my own opinion on how I feel about the album. My dad would agree with me, but that's something I've learned through my own listenings of the Stones catalogue. I mean UNDERCOVER and DIRTY WORK were not popular albums by any means and sub-par by Stones standards. Like I said, STEEL WHEELS in my opinion is not a great Stones album, but it feels like what it set out to accomplish and that was the feeling of a comeback, which continued on through the STEEL WHEELS/URBAN JUNGLE Tours.
Only 23! It was the past tense wording which made it sound as if you were speaking from past experience of the period it was released, but I suppose I misread it.
Only 23! When I was that age, it was during the drought of live Stones shows , the year Dirty Work was released, and sandwiched between two of Micks crappy solo albums...a dreadful time to be a Stones fan really.
So goes without saying not much fun happening back in Stonesland in those days, so you might consider yourself lucky you didn't have to experience it all firsthand.
I still don't think the Steel Wheels album was a "magical comeback" to use your previous words, but yes it was a comeback of sorts. The dismal Dirty Work was released only three years prior, and the so-so Undercover just three years prior to that, so at least they were still releasing albums on a semi-regular basis back then unlike today. Even hitting walls back then didn't stop them! If it sucked, they released it anyways!
The REAL "magical comeback" (imo) was the fact they were going to tour again which they hadn't done in seven years - an eternity back then.
It must have been amazing to see the Stones during the '89 tour. I think it was Mick who said before the '69 tour that they were more of the touring band, as opposed to The Beatles who had stopped touring for good in '66. Did you feel like the '89 tour was the end for the Stones? Like they had this "reunion" of sorts but after it was all said and done, they'd retire?
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peoplewitheyes
Hey Ian, love your recollections of the SW tour.
I was surprised/confused by one thing you mentioned though - are you suggesting that previously stadium gigs had only been in the afternoon, not at night?
I know there is lots of footage of the Stones in stadiums in the daylight (which always struck me as kind of odd) but I figured that was just long, light summer evenings.