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Hairball
...those turds are the crème de la crème (for lack of a better term)!
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If the Stones would release turds of this quality, most people would be quite pleased!
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Hairball
...those turds are the crème de la crème (for lack of a better term)!
And quite fittingly those guys call themselves Gelatin (or Gelitin). The text says they are from my home town, though I must admit I hadn't heard of them before. LOLQuote
Hairball
If the Stones would release turds of this quality, most people would be quite pleased!
Give them another couple of months and we'll see what they come up with ...
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Hairball
...those turds are the crème de la crème (for lack of a better term)!
And quite fittingly those guys call themselves Gelatin (or Gelitin). The text says they are from my home town, though I must admit I hadn't heard of them before. LOLQuote
Hairball
If the Stones would release turds of this quality, most people would be quite pleased!
Give them another couple of months and we'll see what they come up with ...
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ukcal
Oh crap take 2!
The Last Waltz 2019 Tour , don was is busy oct - late nov...does this mean no work on the new album this year?
I hope they go glimmer twins and finish without him, as he adds nothing
any ideas who should produce the stones
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ukcal
Oh crap take 2!
The Last Waltz 2019 Tour , don was is busy oct - late nov...does this mean no work on the new album this year?
I hope they go glimmer twins and finish without him, as he adds nothing
any ideas who should produce the stones
My dream is Don Was replaced by Rick Rubin.
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ukcal
Oh crap take 2!
The Last Waltz 2019 Tour , don was is busy oct - late nov...does this mean no work on the new album this year?
I hope they go glimmer twins and finish without him, as he adds nothing
any ideas who should produce the stones
My dream is Don Was replaced by Rick Rubin.
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ukcal
The Last Waltz 2019 Tour , don was is busy oct - late nov...does this mean no work on the new album this year?
Obviously. But Stones, Mick are surrounded by Yes-men at this late stage of the game. No way they are going to go through the hassles of challenging themselves anymore. Too bad - with Leavell, and Was and Clifford it's a court of bland sycophants.Quote
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ukcal
Oh crap take 2!
The Last Waltz 2019 Tour , don was is busy oct - late nov...does this mean no work on the new album this year?
I hope they go glimmer twins and finish without him, as he adds nothing
any ideas who should produce the stones
My dream is Don Was replaced by Rick Rubin.
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ukcal
Oh crap take 2!
The Last Waltz 2019 Tour , don was is busy oct - late nov...does this mean no work on the new album this year?
I hope they go glimmer twins and finish without him, as he adds nothing
any ideas who should produce the stones
My dream is Don Was replaced by Rick Rubin.
Chris Kimsey.
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Hairball
I've never heard of Gelitin either, but have been to that great museum in Rotterdam several times in the past. Unfortunately (or maybe fortunately lol) these pieces weren't on exhibit.
Just looked at museum website: Museum Boijmans van Beuningen and it says "Museum closed due renovations"...(aka still cleaning up the turds )...seems the exhibit left it's mark in more ways than one!
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ukcal
any ideas who should produce the stones
My dream is Don Was replaced by Rick Rubin.
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ukcal
Oh crap take 2!
The Last Waltz 2019 Tour , don was is busy oct - late nov...does this mean no work on the new album this year?
I hope they go glimmer twins and finish without him, as he adds nothing
any ideas who should produce the stones
My dream is Don Was replaced by Rick Rubin.
Chris Kimsey.
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wonderboy
Try somebody young to be the producer.
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doitywoik
I guess the "problem" with Don Was is that both Mick and Keith seem to get along with him and so he's someone (the only one?) both can agree on.
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doitywoik
I guess the "problem" with Don Was is that both Mick and Keith seem to get along with him and so he's someone (the only one?) both can agree on.
I could be a producer too. Just always agree with them and say 'yes'!
Mick’s best solo album was produced by Rick Rubin: a little tension is good for the creative process.
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doitywoik
I guess the "problem" with Don Was is that both Mick and Keith seem to get along with him and so he's someone (the only one?) both can agree on.
I could be a producer too. Just always agree with them and say 'yes'!
Mick’s best solo album was produced by Rick Rubin: a little tension is good for the creative process.
I agree and maybe Don Was has not enough a confrontational attitude, yet I believe the good and the bad of stones latest records is 90% to be ascribed to mick and keith.
on wandering spirit, maybe it is so good because it is the only solo album in which mick surrender to the fact that the best thing he can do is to play "stonesy" music in his own way?...
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wonderboy
Jimmy Miller was about 26 when he signed up with the Stones.
Try somebody young to be the producer. Like any business, rock and roll has too many retreads like Do Was just living on their reputations.
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KRiffhard
I could be a producer too. Just always agree with them and say 'yes'!
Mick’s best solo album was produced by Rick Rubin: a little tension is good for the creative process.
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doitywoik
I guess the "problem" with Don Was is that both Mick and Keith seem to get along with him and so he's someone (the only one?) both can agree on.
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micawber
Rick Rubin might not only be a no-go for Mick due to the collaboration on "Wandering Spirit", but even more for Keith, therefore.
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doitywoik
I guess the "problem" with Don Was is that both Mick and Keith seem to get along with him and so he's someone (the only one?) both can agree on.
It could be yeah, but I have the picture that Don Was shares more Keith's vision of Stones music than Mick's. For example, for Mick's taste VOODOO LOUNGE was too "retro" and "Was trying to create his own EXILE" (and not following MIck's more 'experimental' ideas) or what did he say. Then for BRIDGES TO BABYLON he used different co-producers. Then later, according to Keith, Mick wanted to re-record (or do something for) A BIGGER BANG in a more proper studio, but he and Don Was were opposing that and out-voted Mick, as they liked the album's raw feel.
So in the end, if Rick Rubin can be seen as a model for keeping Mick more 'Stonesy', I don't think Don Was is that different at all. But seemingly Mick rates Don's opinion rather high. I mean, if he wouldn't, Don Was would not be there. As a mark of Mick and Keith trusting Don Was knowing how the classic Stones should sound like, he is the trusted man to take of the vaults releases, such as, understanding the soundscape of, say, EXILE or SOME GIRLS eras. People here are pretty hard on Don Was, but I think he has a pretty conventional and conservative idea of how the Stones should sound like, not drastically differing from the ideals of many hardcore fans here.
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doitywoik
I remember reading a long piece about Rubin's work with Black Sabbath on "13", which rather resembled a prolongued reviewing procedure (as e.g. in publishing), thus "homework" and constant urging to change or revise things indeed! It possibly wouldn't hurt the Stones to undergo such a procedure - but (me thinks) they would never accept it.
Rubin seems to focus a lot on his "vision" of what a band is really about, and I can well imagine that Mick's and Rubin's visions are quite different (yet Rubin's vision might be closer to Keith's).
I'm not so sure about Chris Kimsey. He did a great job on Tattoo You but was also behind Honk and Grrr.