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We should somehow make a weekly summary from Rocky/Teddy/Soldatti with the actual info.[*] Recording in LA as of February 9th
[*] A lot of older Mick/Matt Clifford Material as source material
[*] Transformation from Mick/Matt --> Stones DNA
[*] Effort to make the album more than a by-the-numbers later day Stones album
[*] Release date or release format not yet defined and not considered important due to decreased relevance of album releases in general and Stones releases specifically
Perfect summary
Only thing missing it's they're working on a bunch of old outtakes too! Am i right Rocky?
Soldatti has a genuine connection to Universal. Some folks here know people in the inner circle personally. My information is second hand at best and subject to question every time. I look for Soldatti or Bjornulf or mpj200 or chatoyancy or a couple others to confirm what I share every time. If they contradict it, I would trust them.
As for the outtakes, I heard there were "a handful." Presumably five or six. The thing is, if we think we're getting something like "Honest Man" - it might not have the same title or lyrics or music any more. Songs develop. This isn't the same as the EXILE or SOME GIRLS outtakes. More like CROSSEYED HEART. The songs have a starting point and a portion of them go back to the 1990s with one from STEEL WHEELS apparently.
Christ on a bike. Reheated thirty year old demos. How inspiring. Cant wait.
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Christ on a bike. Reheated thirty year old demos. How inspiring. Cant wait.
Hmmmmm….that would be like using the 1959 demos for Steel Wheels LP then......Quote
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We should somehow make a weekly summary from Rocky/Teddy/Soldatti with the actual info.[*] Recording in LA as of February 9th
[*] A lot of older Mick/Matt Clifford Material as source material
[*] Transformation from Mick/Matt --> Stones DNA
[*] Effort to make the album more than a by-the-numbers later day Stones album
[*] Release date or release format not yet defined and not considered important due to decreased relevance of album releases in general and Stones releases specifically
Perfect summary
Only thing missing it's they're working on a bunch of old outtakes too! Am i right Rocky?
Soldatti has a genuine connection to Universal. Some folks here know people in the inner circle personally. My information is second hand at best and subject to question every time. I look for Soldatti or Bjornulf or mpj200 or chatoyancy or a couple others to confirm what I share every time. If they contradict it, I would trust them.
As for the outtakes, I heard there were "a handful." Presumably five or six. The thing is, if we think we're getting something like "Honest Man" - it might not have the same title or lyrics or music any more. Songs develop. This isn't the same as the EXILE or SOME GIRLS outtakes. More like CROSSEYED HEART. The songs have a starting point and a portion of them go back to the 1990s with one from STEEL WHEELS apparently.
Christ on a bike. Reheated thirty year old demos. How inspiring. Cant wait.
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Hairball
This is like rooting for your favorite football team that happens to be in a slump, and their glory days are far behind them.
They haven't had a really big win in ages, but most of the fans' loyalty to the team is apparent through thick and thin,
And while the fan base gets smaller each passing year, many jump back on the band wagon when there's something to actually cheer about.
It gets frustrating for some of the diehards, but to see the legends still out on the field trying their best makes it somewhat worthwhile - win or lose.
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We should somehow make a weekly summary from Rocky/Teddy/Soldatti with the actual info.[*] Recording in LA as of February 9th
[*] A lot of older Mick/Matt Clifford Material as source material
[*] Transformation from Mick/Matt --> Stones DNA
[*] Effort to make the album more than a by-the-numbers later day Stones album
[*] Release date or release format not yet defined and not considered important due to decreased relevance of album releases in general and Stones releases specifically
Perfect summary
Only thing missing it's they're working on a bunch of old outtakes too! Am i right Rocky?
Soldatti has a genuine connection to Universal. Some folks here know people in the inner circle personally. My information is second hand at best and subject to question every time. I look for Soldatti or Bjornulf or mpj200 or chatoyancy or a couple others to confirm what I share every time. If they contradict it, I would trust them.
As for the outtakes, I heard there were "a handful." Presumably five or six. The thing is, if we think we're getting something like "Honest Man" - it might not have the same title or lyrics or music any more. Songs develop. This isn't the same as the EXILE or SOME GIRLS outtakes. More like CROSSEYED HEART. The songs have a starting point and a portion of them go back to the 1990s with one from STEEL WHEELS apparently.
Christ on a bike. Reheated thirty year old demos. How inspiring. Cant wait.
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Gazza ... Don't piss my ass off .. not today Pal!!!!
Ha .. Well yes .. I like all new Stones as well .. however Don Was or whoever must of ear spotted a few things that showed great promise and convinced them
to work further into the ideas. I don't mind a few ...two or three .. but I want mostly all fresh stuff as well. By the time it / those make it (IF) to the album we will have no idea it could be a thirty year old idea from Steel Wheels ...or from 2002 etc. It'll sound fresh and like a brand new song (my guess).
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The music industry is on life support. They wont be building a show around it and it'll be largely forgotten and wont be getting airplay within a month anyway
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We should somehow make a weekly summary from Rocky/Teddy/Soldatti with the actual info.[*] Recording in LA as of February 9th
[*] A lot of older Mick/Matt Clifford Material as source material
[*] Transformation from Mick/Matt --> Stones DNA
[*] Effort to make the album more than a by-the-numbers later day Stones album
[*] Release date or release format not yet defined and not considered important due to decreased relevance of album releases in general and Stones releases specifically
Perfect summary
Only thing missing it's they're working on a bunch of old outtakes too! Am i right Rocky?
Soldatti has a genuine connection to Universal. Some folks here know people in the inner circle personally. My information is second hand at best and subject to question every time. I look for Soldatti or Bjornulf or mpj200 or chatoyancy or a couple others to confirm what I share every time. If they contradict it, I would trust them.
As for the outtakes, I heard there were "a handful." Presumably five or six. The thing is, if we think we're getting something like "Honest Man" - it might not have the same title or lyrics or music any more. Songs develop. This isn't the same as the EXILE or SOME GIRLS outtakes. More like CROSSEYED HEART. The songs have a starting point and a portion of them go back to the 1990s with one from STEEL WHEELS apparently.
Christ on a bike. Reheated thirty year old demos. How inspiring. Cant wait.
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Gazza ... Don't piss my ass off .. not today Pal!!!!
Ha .. Well yes .. I like all new Stones as well .. however Don Was or whoever must of ear spotted a few things that showed great promise and convinced them
to work further into the ideas. I don't mind a few ...two or three .. but I want mostly all fresh stuff as well. By the time it / those make it (IF) to the album we will have no idea it could be a thirty year old idea from Steel Wheels ...or from 2002 etc. It'll sound fresh and like a brand new song (my guess).
Ian
Thats one optimistic way of interpreting it. Most people with a realistic perspective however would interpret that as an indication of someone bereft of ideas and inspiration.
Using unfinished ideas from old sessions isnt new or necessarily a bad thing. But if people use Tattoo You (as is often the case) as an argument for doing so we're not comparing like with like here, as back then the Stones were releasing an album every year or two. Theyve recorded one album of new material in 22 years (a timespan which - to get some perspective - is 40% of their career). And nothing in the last 14.
A band with three songwriters really shouldnt be having to dig around in the dustbins of their archives for 20-30 year old scraps.
Its 2019 and theyre in the home straight of their career with nothing left to prove. No artist of their vintage or their history is under pressure to deliver some 'grand statement' at this stage. If its an average album, so what? The music industry is on life support. They wont be building a show around it and it'll be largely forgotten and wont be getting airplay within a month anyway.
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The music industry is on life support. They wont be building a show around it and it'll be largely forgotten and wont be getting airplay within a month anyway
True. I do remember when album reviews meant something. Today they are more or less a thing of the past. And the old journalists who followed the band retired 30 years ago.
Now everything is about radio rotation (like in the early days) and downloading. And the Stones aren't huge in any of those divisions.
Still, I would have preferred the new album (seems like we have established at least that...) before the tour. Now, I'm afraid, the tour is just going to be Stones-by-the-numbers
once again. Which I find too predictable and boring. Not satisfying simply...
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Hairball
I might be the only one who actually likes Losing My Touch? Sure it's a bit somber and slow, but for me that's part of the charm of it.
I imagine Keith in an empty bar late at night with nobody around baring his soul which in hindsight would have made a great video.
Easily the best of the new tracks that were included on 40 Licks and it could have fit perfectly on Crosseyed Heart or any other latter day Stones album.
Not all Keith tracks have to be rip-roaring riff driven stompers to be great obviously, and if we're ever gifted with something similar from Keith and/or the Stones I will rejoice.
Listening to it right now on a cool and rainy Sunday morning in SoCal, and a tear is forming in my eye.......
As for Keith's worst tune, I'd say Infamy which is one of the many reasons that A Bigger Bang is a lame album.
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Strange hairdo for Mick, definitely not "tour ready" ;-) Well as long as it's "studio ready", why not !
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JordyLicks96
Hi everybody! I've been coming to IORR for a long time now but recently just made my account. Love getting all of the info for the "eventual" new album. I'm actually the guy whose been posting the Stones outtakes on YouTube, like the recently posted Licks sessions. I'm also probably the youngest Stones fan here, going to be 23 this June right before I see them at MetLife on the 13th. Long live the Stones and hope to hear some new music soon!