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Hey Bill ... can ya find out if Charlie wrote any songs this time 'round ….

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Also seems they are trying to let material evolve ... or grow by nipping at them in spurts and at intervals as opposed to grinding on them continuously.

Considering the little amount of time they spend in the studio - especially together - this slow evolution process is something even Charles Darwin would get impatient with!
But clearly they're in no hurry - as georgelicks stated: "They are old and not inspired anymore", "With a 19 warhorse loaded setlist there's no room or need of new stuff",
and "They are a "brand" not a "band" anymore, a new album is another item to sell and way less important than a t-shirt".

Speaking of which, looking forward to receiving my new black on black Stones shirt - should be here any day now!

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Hmmmm I sort of disagree in a light. Seems Mick and Keith have met several times in writing for this ...

and Georgelicks also stated they didn't want this album to be generic and that they wanted / wanted it to be very good of high standards and that they were not willing to settle if the material wasn't that way.

That also came from Georgelicks.


My only issue was they didn't spend much time 'as a band' working on it (as you mentioned 'together')?



at least not tomy knowledge. Sure Charlie claims they did a good handful of seperate sets of sessions but other than that as a band they surely were
not in there a whole heck of a lot. At least that's the way I get it.

georgelicks also said:

"There's no need for a full album, but a couple of new songs each year is great IMO, the Stones' album catalog won't get hurt with that, it's not a full album, so I really don't get it.
With only 3-4 days in the studio each year, no more than that, they can record 2 songs quick and simple, just like Doom And Gloom and One More Shot, and release it right before each tour..."

Seeing as they can't seem to complete a full album in it's entirety for whatever reasons, I would tend to agree with georgelicks. One or two new songs prior to the upcoming tour would be great (and better than nothing),
and after that they could continue to record and release completed songs that they're happy with. But in reality, hard to say if they even really care about releasing new music.

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I beleive it was also stated there were completed songs that were supposed to go on the album originated from before 2015 .. some complete songs since 2015 and some completed last year and this year and that they planned on releasing three singles etc.


You kno ... we actually don't know what they have.. there are all kinds of reports, you see. 40 songs... 20 ...12 .. 6 ... etc. Woody just stated that they (Mick and Keith) are going over 12 or so just last month. We have had reports of 40 ...12 ....6 ...20 ... etc. etc.

If you spend three weeks writing songs with someone and the band has worked three weeks and both of the song writers write on their own aside from all that


It's hard to conceive they wouldn't have completed songs or not enough material.

If they haven't accumulated enough completed songs in over three years time or if they still are in the rough demo stage (Keiths full of BS) I'd have to advise them to just hang it up.


Probably much more to the story than any of us know... Just my lousy two bits ha

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I shared what I was told Ronnie shared. I asked if I could post it and was told yes. I asked a few questions to follow-up and didn't get a response, which is typical. So I don't know anything other than this.

I'll be curious if Soldatti (georgelicks) or Bjornulf hear anything that confirms or invalidates any of it.

What I specifically asked was about the EP. Since that appears to have been broken by The Sun I asked if it came direct from the Jagger clan. I also asked if the EP was still happening or if finishing the album was still a possibility. No response.

If the unfinished material was what I was told from the same source more than a year ago, the oldest material is from STEEL WHEELS with the rest of it culled directly from Don Was' time which makes sense since it is apparently Don pushing for them to include some reworked outtakes amid "new" compositions.

Time will tell if this is correct. The person I spoke to does have a Stones connection, but I realize that still isn't a 100% guarantee of anything.

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I shared what I was told Ronnie shared. I asked if I could post it and was told yes. I asked a few questions to follow-up and didn't get a response, which is typical. So I don't know anything other than this.

I'll be curious if Soldatti (georgelicks) or Bjornulf hear anything that confirms or invalidates any of it.

What I specifically asked was about the EP. Since that appears to have been broken by The Sun I asked if it came direct from the Jagger clan. I also asked if the EP was still happening or if finishing the album was still a possibility. No response.

If the unfinished material was what I was told from the same source more than a year ago, the oldest material is from STEEL WHEELS with the rest of it culled directly from Don Was' time which makes sense since it is apparently Don pushing for them to include some reworked outtakes amid "new" compositions.

Time will tell if this is correct. The person I spoke to does have a Stones connection, but I realize that still isn't a 100% guarantee of anything.

I hope they don't forget "You got it made", "High or Low"(recorded in 2001 with Sheryl Crow) and the songs recorded with Jack White:
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The recent Paris session was just Mick and Ronnie building on what Mick and Keith did in New York a few months ago. Ronnie said the majority of the material is Mick's songs that the others have worked on as they go. He said Keith has a few songs as well. He did confirm they are reworking some old unfinished outtakes as Don Was has wanted. Keith may do some more work in New York before the band gets back together in late February for what should be the final set of sessions.

No, he didn't tell me. I don't know Ronnie. Yes, I got it from someone who does know him. Yes, they know I'm sharing it. So take it as PR-approved damage control or smart free publicity, but it's also almost certainly reliable.

Corrections or denials from georgelicks or Bjornulf are welcome. I have no stake in this except as a fan.

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Spot on mate. Roll on February.

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Spot on mate. Roll on February.

Thank you very much for that, mpj200. I did a lot of second-guessing after posting it, worried I was led down a blind alley.

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Spot on mate. Roll on February.

Thank you very much for that, mpj200. I did a lot of second-guessing after posting it, worried I was led down a blind alley.

It certainly validates these 248 pages of longing, to have a piece of info that actually sounds real.

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Thanks for sharing. I actually like the idea of just Mick and Ronnie working on things - I always thought that Ronnie having some more say in the creation of new material would be good.

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Thanks for sharing. I actually like the idea of just Mick and Ronnie working on things - I always thought that Ronnie having some more say in the creation of new material would be good.

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Thanks for sharing. I actually like the idea of just Mick and Ronnie working on things - I always thought that Ronnie having some more say in the creation of new material would be good.

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10, or 50% of the setlist, easily. The problem is that after 6 years of touring with no new album it would seem very strange and they only have themselves to blame for that, the lack of a new album and the lack of variety in their setlists. And the more it lasts, the worse it gets and then one day, potentially any day now it will be too late...and it won't matter anymore, so why bother?

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Don Was's latest statement is that Mick & Keith are / have been writing about four songs a day 'together' .. ....
So .. now .. does this <finally> put an end to the <Hit A Wall> theory.

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Writing some lyrics on the plane, maybe?

"Next to David on the plane and they had a chat about cricket!"



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Don Was's latest statement is that Mick & Keith are / have been writing about four songs a day 'together' .. ....


So .. now .. does this put an end to the theory.


Lol .. Again .. I'm quite sure some days they wrote a song .. some days four. Some days simply worked on others .. I'm also sure one (or more sessions) they hit a dead spot .. My point is ya can't take every single line being it positive or negative and live by it.


They are writing fine together .. and I'm quite sure they have amassed plenty of material .. stemming from Micks songs he brought in .. all the songs Mick and Keith wrote together .. a few from sessions past etc.


A. They have enough material .. making it really good is the tricky part.

B. They are writing fine together and I'm sure have been for the past couple years.


Not saying any of this guarantees a great album because nothing is guaranteed. However the negatives that have been repeated over and over such as the 'Hit the wall' (I mean geeze .. you had people here claiming they cannot write anything anymore based on that one sentence alone ... yeeesh)...


Things are fine in those departments I'm quite sure (As Don Was states). Now.. let's hope the album and those songs are damn good is all. Just a waiting game at this point. Unless February something really bad happens at the sessions .. all is well .. careful mind you .. but well.

That's all.

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HA! My joke got into this thread! I figured some humor was needed after 248 pages.

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potus43
Isn't the definition of insanity something like "Doing the same thing over and over again but expecting a different result"? Does that qualify the Stones as insane since they keep hiring the disastrous Don Was?

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Isn't the definition of insanity something like "Doing the same thing over and over again but expecting a different result"? Does that qualify the Stones as insane since they keep hiring the disastrous Don Was?

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potus43
Isn't the definition of insanity something like "Doing the same thing over and over again but expecting a different result"? Does that qualify the Stones as insane since they keep hiring the disastrous Don Was?