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harlem shuffle
Let Keith make all the songs,lyricvise alsow.Let him play all guitars,sing on all songs.He can play drums on all songs alsow.Dont need anyone but Keith on the new album.Let him play some faboulos guitarsolos alsow,Have to be the best album of all time.

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Chris Fountain
It would be great to see them release a smash hit that just blows you away the first time you here it such as "Satisfaction" Start Me Up " or even "Rocks Off".

Then again, if they create a Goats Head Soup or melodic type album that will be fine too.

I just want the music mixed and produced well such as Tattoo You, for example. I do not want another ABB type album. I just couldn't stomach it.

Doom and Gloom actually worked excatly this way for me.

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harlem shuffle
My biggest problem is you and some other Jaggerhaters,nothing else

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keithsman
Can i be a Keith worshiper who hates Micks solo stuff but still loves Mick.

Is that allowed ?

Can i be a huge Stones fan that goes to see them as much as i can but get frustrated with the set lists ?

I don't think any of us hate any of the Stones but they can try our patience at times, do you think i didn't get embarrassed about keith's lack luster performances and terrible attempts at SFTD solo's until he cleaned up his act this year.

They are all worthy of criticism at times, just this week the Ronnie interview and book is laughable and pathetic at the same time, other times when i see him play the ancient art of weaving with Keith i'm just in awe of the man, he's performances lately are just incredible, and to get to that standard so late in life i take my hat off to him. Other times in the past when he has been drunk and completely forgets to play whole chunks of song's i used to tire of the man, but still the love is there as a fan.

So yeah frustration can appear as hate sometimes but hate is a strong word, not one that comes to mind when we think of the Stones.

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maumau
mick is no neil young,
other artists of the same age have a drive to create and put out that is much bigger and motivated, I think it is very personal, exspecially for people over 70. also, there are no countless numbers of "dinasaur acts" alive and kicking new stuff and, it must be said, mostly they dont fill as big venues as the Stones. Which is, clearly, the basic reason, the Rolling Stones are still around and have been for many years now.

Mick is very energetic of course but his motivations are diverse, in a way, musically speaking, he is less free, free from the need of success and, of course, free from a band and a brand name.

Young, for instance, is engaged in the political message he wants to give thru his music and also he gives less a sh+t about what could be successful or not.

also young, dylan and others are soloists. They dont have to discuss with co-authors about what is good and what is not. they dont have to exchange demoes with themselves before arranging studio time with pals. they recruit band or session men the moment the songs are ready to be recorded. Of course there is creative studio time, but has a very different meaning. they dont "hit walls". If they dont feel it they just quit for a while or for ever. see what's happening with Tom Waits..

that is why 14 years seem no strange to me and my expectations are little, though I am looking forward to hear the new album

Good points, but it's more than just Mick having to consult with a co-author. It's that Mick and Keith together wrote, created great music together, and it's clear that once their personal relationship soured in the early 80's, the creative muse there dried up and we got Mick songs and Keith songs. Not the same. Are they going into the studio to work out the songs together and record this new album together as a band? That would be a start.

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MisterDDDD
Hate may be too strong a word, we agree keithsman.
But so are "laughable and pathetic" when describing Ronnie's art book.

May not like it, may not like the price, but it's a good example of over the top rhetoric, usually reserved for anything solo Mick related, that turns into negative back and forth's. That kind of disrespect just invites strong responses/defenses from fans. Seems obvious, but when the predictable defenses from fans come in, you are offended and surprised. Vicious circle.

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maumau
listening again to crosseyed heart after some time. such a good and warm album
hope some of this warmth is kept on the new rs album

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maumau
mick is no neil young,
other artists of the same age have a drive to create and put out that is much bigger and motivated, I think it is very personal, exspecially for people over 70. also, there are no countless numbers of "dinasaur acts" alive and kicking new stuff and, it must be said, mostly they dont fill as big venues as the Stones. Which is, clearly, the basic reason, the Rolling Stones are still around and have been for many years now.

Mick is very energetic of course but his motivations are diverse, in a way, musically speaking, he is less free, free from the need of success and, of course, free from a band and a brand name.

Young, for instance, is engaged in the political message he wants to give thru his music and also he gives less a sh+t about what could be successful or not.

also young, dylan and others are soloists. They dont have to discuss with co-authors about what is good and what is not. they dont have to exchange demoes with themselves before arranging studio time with pals. they recruit band or session men the moment the songs are ready to be recorded. Of course there is creative studio time, but has a very different meaning. they dont "hit walls". If they dont feel it they just quit for a while or for ever. see what's happening with Tom Waits..

that is why 14 years seem no strange to me and my expectations are little, though I am looking forward to hear the new album

Good points, but it's more than just Mick having to consult with a co-author. It's that Mick and Keith together wrote, created great music together, and it's clear that once their personal relationship soured in the early 80's, the creative muse there dried up and we got Mick songs and Keith songs. Not the same. Are they going into the studio to work out the songs together and record this new album together as a band? That would be a start.

Well, if we truly regard them as great songwriters, they should be able to produce the 'goods' without their song writing partner. Its not like Elton John/Taupin where lyrics and music are developed quite separately.
The Lennon/McCartney relationship at a personal level was not good in 1968/9. But the group's albums in that period are as good as their earlier work, imo.
Mick and Keith should let their egos and pride to one side....and just get the job done!! Pity Universal can't give them a deadline....many artists work better to a deadline.

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Gaetzi
There aren't a lot of people that can properly deliver a ballad in the rock and roll world. Garcia certainly could.. Stella Blue? the man could give you goose bumps with that one on a good night. Mick can do it well, Gram Parsons was probably the best.

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Gaetzi
Touche. I'd actually say Keith delivers a great ballad. Better than Mick, to be honest.

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keithsman
I wish Don Was had been a bit more specific about the wall they hit, its been so slow since he mentioned or hinted at Mick hitting a wall. Ok we got B&L as a result of the wall, but i'm getting the impression there is a real problem with Mick coming up with the goods, what if he really can't create at that level anymore, or that he can create like GGAG and England Lost, but he just can't make Stones songs anymore, its possible and understandable at his age.
I just don't think its his bag these days.