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Rocky Dijon
Ronnie and Sally just saw HAMILTON. Are they in London for a band meeting or is the Post is confusing Keith with Ronnie?
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GasLightStreet
I know the element of the word "No" not being said to Mick has given us DIRTY WORK and onward with every album having some really crap songs on it (with exception to BLUE AND LONESOME). The talk about Don Was being a yes man has hurt the Stones is accurate. Almost interesting is that the two people Mick mentions have never worked with the Stones.
This can't say it any better:
The Rolling Stones will probably use a producer again at some point, but to produce a band like the Stones isn't easy. There's not that many guys who can really do a good job. A lot of guys who call themselves producers are really engineers. A producer, to me, is someone who has the authority to change an arrangement, a tempo. A lot of these guys are really just engineers who want to be called producers on the label. They don't have the authority to turn around and say, Hey, Mick, that's a bunch of shit, like Nile (Rodgers) or Bill (Laswell) would.
- Mick Jagger, January 1985
[timeisonourside.com]
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GasLightStreet
Listen to AC/DC's BALLBREAKER and tell me that Rick Rubin produced that.
He was good in the 1980s and 1990s but now all he does is eat tuna fish sandwiches and rides his stationary bike.
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Rocky Dijon
While that quote from Mick is fine, why didn't he listen to Bill Laswell and Nile Rodgers when they turned around and told him SHE'S THE BOSS was a load of crap?
Kidding, sort of.
Nile Rodgers has said he doesn't even remember working with Mick he was so wasted on coke during the sessions. Mick treated Bill Laswell the same way he would Rick Rubin noting they didn't know how to produce certain songs ("Hard Woman," "Evening Gown," and "Hang On To Me Tonight") and that he had to do it himself. He and Keith always do a terrific job of telling people Andrew didn't really produce unless they didn't like the results and then apparently Andrew did produce. The remark about producers just being engineers are likely jibes at Glyn and Andy Johns and maybe even Mr. Kimsey at that point in time.
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35love
GasLightStreet,
You cannot quote Mick Jagger from 1985 and think the opinion or attitude stills holds the same.
33 years ago!
That’s crazy.
We are so old, LOL.
Hope you are getting thru the holidays okay,
S
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KRiffhard
“At one point while we were making the record, Mick pulled me out of the control room and talked to me in the hallway … one of the things he told me in that conversation was I was worse than Keith. I took that as a compliment. That was the nature of the relationship, and I definitely think good things came out of it.”
Rick Rubin
[ultimateclassicrock.com]
Rick (about 'Charmed Life'): "C'mon Mick, we can't publish this crappy song..."
Mick: "Fu*#€ Rick...you are a ******...Get out of the control room...you are worse than Keith...."
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KRiffhard
“At one point while we were making the record, Mick pulled me out of the control room and talked to me in the hallway … one of the things he told me in that conversation was I was worse than Keith. I took that as a compliment. That was the nature of the relationship, and I definitely think good things came out of it.”
Rick Rubin
[ultimateclassicrock.com]
Rick (about 'Charmed Life'): "C'mon Mick, we can't publish this crappy song..."
Mick: "Fu*#€ Rick...you are a ******...Get out of the control room...you are worse than Keith...."
Rubin had nothing to do with Charmed Life, which is partially why it's so bad. Aside from that thankful aspect, what made Jagger think it was releasable? It's horrible. Pure garbage. It's amazing. Especially when you consider what he did with the Red Devils!
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GasLightStreet
Rubin had nothing to do with Charmed Life, which is partially why it's so bad. Aside from that thankful aspect, what made Jagger think it was releasable? It's horrible. Pure garbage. It's amazing. Especially when you consider what he did with the Red Devils!
It's of course crap, but it ain't worse than Turn The Girl Loose or State Of Shock (of course).
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jlowe
To get back to the point of this thread:
What happens if Universal are not happy with The Stones 'finished album'?
It does happen of course...not commercial enough...no hit single...album cover....lyrics etc.
Would they just delay release? And try again?
Or go to another company?
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KRiffhard
“At one point while we were making the record, Mick pulled me out of the control room and talked to me in the hallway … one of the things he told me in that conversation was I was worse than Keith. I took that as a compliment. That was the nature of the relationship, and I definitely think good things came out of it.”
Rick Rubin
[ultimateclassicrock.com]
Rick (about 'Charmed Life'): "C'mon Mick, we can't publish this crappy song..."
Mick: "Fu*#€ Rick...you are a ******...Get out of the control room...you are worse than Keith...."
Rubin had nothing to do with Charmed Life, which is partially why it's so bad. Aside from that thankful aspect, what made Jagger think it was releasable? It's horrible. Pure garbage. It's amazing. Especially when you consider what he did with the Red Devils!
It's of course crap, but it ain't worse than Turn The Girl Loose or State Of Shock (of course).
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GasLightStreet
Listen to AC/DC's BALLBREAKER and tell me that Rick Rubin produced that.
He was good in the 1980s and 1990s but now all he does is eat tuna fish sandwiches and rides his stationary bike.
Imo he's still a great producer and surely better than the yes man.
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24FPS
...it was here, and then, it's gone.....