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Universal wants an album this year.. a new album of originals .. Im sure their contract stated a delivery year... doubt they would settle for 2019 with a band their age and being as they started the album in 2015.

The Stones aren't even a blip on the Universal radar. They're more interested in Greta Van Fleet (and a thousand other acts) - and finding the next Greta Van Fleet. Anyway 2019 is just 54 or so weeks away.

They paid them millions to deliver an album .. Record companies aren't the most charitable organizations on the planet. If they are paying for something.. (millions) .. even though it's The Rolling Stones ...they want to know when they will get it. Is to be next year. That is why The Rolling Stones lawyers and Universal execs and their lawyers met and signed off on.


Isn't a playground .. it's business.

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Universal wants an album this year.. a new album of originals .. Im sure their contract stated a delivery year... doubt they would settle for 2019 with a band their age and being as they started the album in 2015.

The Stones aren't even a blip on the Universal radar. They're more interested in Greta Van Fleet (and a thousand other acts) - and finding the next Greta Van Fleet. Anyway 2019 is just 54 or so weeks away.

They paid them millions to deliver an album .. Record companies aren't the most charitable organizations on the planet. If they are paying for something.. (millions) .. even though it's The Rolling Stones ...they want to know when they will get it. Is to be next year. That is why The Rolling Stones lawyers and Universal execs and their lawyers met and signed off on.


Isn't a playground .. it's business.

It is highly unlikely that the Stones got the money. Record labels are banks: the money is a loan.

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Universal wants an album this year.. a new album of originals .. Im sure their contract stated a delivery year... doubt they would settle for 2019 with a band their age and being as they started the album in 2015.

The Stones aren't even a blip on the Universal radar. They're more interested in Greta Van Fleet (and a thousand other acts) - and finding the next Greta Van Fleet. Anyway 2019 is just 54 or so weeks away.

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And then they'll go..

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Whooooooooo man look at the wall of that slick creasing ...^^^^^ ... wild !!

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Mojo magazine - Feb 2018 just arrived, There is an interview with MJ about On Air by Mark Paytress to which he set's the scene:- 'Mick Jagger is in Los Angeles about to spend the afternoon listening to Multitracks for the forthcoming as yet untitled Rolling Stones LP. - MJ "I have not heard it for a while, probably not since the Stones took of on tour earlier this summer. I'm gonna pick out the ones I really like and Keith will be listening to it too. Im in the process but not quite there yet".The article does not give a date.

Also Stones on cover and inside 10 page article on TSMR.
[www.mojo4music.com]

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Mojo magazine - Feb 2018 just arrived, There is an interview with MJ about On Air by Mark Paytress to which he set's the scene:- 'Mick Jagger is in Los Angeles about to spend the afternoon listening to Multitracks for the forthcoming as yet untitled Rolling Stones LP. - MJ "I have not heard it for a while, probably not since the Stones took of on tour earlier this summer. I'm gonna pick out the ones I really like and Keith will be listening to it too. Im in the process but not quite there yet".The article does not give a date.

Also Stones on cover and inside 10 page article on TSMR.
[www.mojo4music.com]

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Mojo magazine - Feb 2018 just arrived, There is an interview with MJ about On Air by Mark Paytress to which he set's the scene:- 'Mick Jagger is in Los Angeles about to spend the afternoon listening to Multitracks for the forthcoming as yet untitled Rolling Stones LP. - MJ "I have not heard it for a while, probably not since the Stones took of on tour earlier this summer. I'm gonna pick out the ones I really like and Keith will be listening to it too. Im in the process but not quite there yet".The article does not give a date.

Also Stones on cover and inside 10 page article on TSMR.
[www.mojo4music.com]

"Universal told me and the band it is a waste of time". BTW what summer tour is Jagger talking about?

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Mojo magazine - Feb 2018 just arrived, There is an interview with MJ about On Air by Mark Paytress to which he set's the scene:- 'Mick Jagger is in Los Angeles about to spend the afternoon listening to Multitracks for the forthcoming as yet untitled Rolling Stones LP. - MJ "I have not heard it for a while, probably not since the Stones took of on tour earlier this summer. I'm gonna pick out the ones I really like and Keith will be listening to it too. Im in the process but not quite there yet".The article does not give a date.

Also Stones on cover and inside 10 page article on TSMR.
[www.mojo4music.com]

"Universal told me and the band it is a waste of time". BTW what summer tour is Jagger talking about?

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Mojo magazine - Feb 2018 just arrived, There is an interview with MJ about On Air by Mark Paytress to which he set's the scene:- 'Mick Jagger is in Los Angeles about to spend the afternoon listening to Multitracks for the forthcoming as yet untitled Rolling Stones LP. - MJ "I have not heard it for a while, probably not since the Stones took of on tour earlier this summer. I'm gonna pick out the ones I really like and Keith will be listening to it too. Im in the process but not quite there yet".The article does not give a date.

Also Stones on cover and inside 10 page article on TSMR.
[www.mojo4music.com]

"Universal told me and the band it is a waste of time". BTW what summer tour is Jagger talking about?

Summer in Europe lasted until September 22, wasn't it? The No Security Tour started on September 9, when it was still summer in Europe.

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Mojo magazine - Feb 2018 just arrived, There is an interview with MJ about On Air by Mark Paytress to which he set's the scene:- 'Mick Jagger is in Los Angeles about to spend the afternoon listening to Multitracks for the forthcoming as yet untitled Rolling Stones LP. - MJ "I have not heard it for a while, probably not since the Stones took of on tour earlier this summer. I'm gonna pick out the ones I really like and Keith will be listening to it too. Im in the process but not quite there yet".The article does not give a date.

Also Stones on cover and inside 10 page article on TSMR.
[www.mojo4music.com]

"Universal told me and the band it is a waste of time". BTW what summer tour is Jagger talking about?

No rain, 15C and late September is as good as summer for a Londoner?

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Mojo magazine - Feb 2018 just arrived, There is an interview with MJ about On Air by Mark Paytress to which he set's the scene:- 'Mick Jagger is in Los Angeles about to spend the afternoon listening to Multitracks for the forthcoming as yet untitled Rolling Stones LP. - MJ "I have not heard it for a while, probably not since the Stones took of on tour earlier this summer. I'm gonna pick out the ones I really like and Keith will be listening to it too. Im in the process but not quite there yet".The article does not give a date.

Also Stones on cover and inside 10 page article on TSMR.
[www.mojo4music.com]

"Universal told me and the band it is a waste of time". BTW what summer tour is Jagger talking about?

No rain, 15C and late September is as good as summer for a Londoner?

Well, to this antipodean, this Mojo stuff all sounds like the record is actually closer than further away...

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Mojo magazine - Feb 2018 just arrived, There is an interview with MJ about On Air by Mark Paytress to which he set's the scene:- 'Mick Jagger is in Los Angeles about to spend the afternoon listening to Multitracks for the forthcoming as yet untitled Rolling Stones LP. - MJ "I have not heard it for a while, probably not since the Stones took of on tour earlier this summer. I'm gonna pick out the ones I really like and Keith will be listening to it too. Im in the process but not quite there yet".The article does not give a date.

Also Stones on cover and inside 10 page article on TSMR.
[www.mojo4music.com]

"Universal told me and the band it is a waste of time". BTW what summer tour is Jagger talking about?

No rain, 15C and late September is as good as summer for a Londoner?

Well, to this antipodean, this Mojo stuff all sounds like the record is actually closer than further away...

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Seems like a strange way to open an article .. If nothing is to come until a couple years? ... Or if the album is in doubts ... innit?

>>Explaining how you are sitting there with Mick Jagger while he is in process of selecting stuff for the "fourth coming" Rolling Stones LP... >> Opening paragraph .. first sentences no less.


Don Was is bluffing at nothing to come.. The album is still on plans for 2018.

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These are some comments from band members about new songs:

Jagger told the NYT that they only have “half an album” of material — and Wood hinted that those songs may need quite a bit of time in the studio before they see release.
“It’s like putting it on top of the strainer and seeing what soaks through by the time you come back to them again,” said Wood. “The lumps that are left on top after time has gone by, that’s what you make your dough out of. It wouldn’t surprise me if we recut them all again. It’s one of those things.”

From: [ultimateclassicrock.com]

“The new material will take a while to sit and reshape” RW

"I was working on it quite recently. We've got a long way to go, but I think it sounds really great and I'm looking forward to carrying on with that." MJ

When asked if the Stones might return to the new songs in 2017, Jagger says, "Yeah, I hope so"; Wood also predicts "next year" will see them back in the studio

From: [www.billboard.com]

"This past December, the Rolling Stones gathered in Mark Knopfler's British Grove Studios in West London to begin work on a batch of original songs. Jagger is deliberately vague on the nature of those tunes. "I hope it's gonna be a very eclectic album," he says. "I hope some of it's gonna be recognizable Stones and some of it's gonna be some Stones you never heard before, maybe."

"The Stones are discussing more shows next year, and they really do intend to work on that album of originals. "There's about 10 or 12 new songs that Mick actually has been cooking up," says Wood, "and Keith's got the odd one, too."

"I don‘t want to make any decisions about this until this record (Blue and Lonesome) comes out, because I think it might radically change Mick‘s attitude; it might change mine. I want to see the fallout from this record before I decide wheteher I want to record 40 of Mick‘s songs or whether he wants to sit down with me and record some songs together. That‘s my thing" KR

"Richards suggests that at least some of the songs might be unfinished compositions that date back 15 years or more"

From Uncut and [www.rollingstone.com]

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From KRiffhard posted on page one December 09, 2016.
Lot's of interesting quotes and links to revisit:

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These are some comments from band members about new songs:

Jagger told the NYT that they only have “half an album” of material — and Wood hinted that those songs may need quite a bit of time in the studio before they see release.
“It’s like putting it on top of the strainer and seeing what soaks through by the time you come back to them again,” said Wood. “The lumps that are left on top after time has gone by, that’s what you make your dough out of. It wouldn’t surprise me if we recut them all again. It’s one of those things.”

From: [ultimateclassicrock.com]

“The new material will take a while to sit and reshape” RW

"I was working on it quite recently. We've got a long way to go, but I think it sounds really great and I'm looking forward to carrying on with that." MJ

When asked if the Stones might return to the new songs in 2017, Jagger says, "Yeah, I hope so"; Wood also predicts "next year" will see them back in the studio

From: [www.billboard.com]

"This past December, the Rolling Stones gathered in Mark Knopfler's British Grove Studios in West London to begin work on a batch of original songs. Jagger is deliberately vague on the nature of those tunes. "I hope it's gonna be a very eclectic album," he says. "I hope some of it's gonna be recognizable Stones and some of it's gonna be some Stones you never heard before, maybe."

"The Stones are discussing more shows next year, and they really do intend to work on that album of originals. "There's about 10 or 12 new songs that Mick actually has been cooking up," says Wood, "and Keith's got the odd one, too."

"I don‘t want to make any decisions about this until this record (Blue and Lonesome) comes out, because I think it might radically change Mick‘s attitude; it might change mine. I want to see the fallout from this record before I decide wheteher I want to record 40 of Mick‘s songs or whether he wants to sit down with me and record some songs together. That‘s my thing" KR

"Richards suggests that at least some of the songs might be unfinished compositions that date back 15 years or more"

From Uncut and [www.rollingstone.com]

Wondering if that highlighted quote from Keith still holds true? If so, then all the recent talk of a Tattoo You pt. II could be a reality.
They more than likely have TONS of stuff they could revisit, it's just a matter of agreeing and/or compromising on their varying visions for the direction of the new album.

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I really should know better than to get in the middle of this, but the Stones control their own copyrights. The record label doesn't have the same clout it would with an artist whose work they own outright. Sure, they pay for marketing and distribution and want a commercial product, but there are limits as to how much push and shove they have with the Stones. Not because of any Greatest Rock 'n' Roll Band in the World nonsense, but because it is a distribution arrangement and like the ones before it for the past 47 years, it is a unique situation where the band has more autonomy than most artists.

Don Was has been making these remarks since BLUE AND LONESOME came out. "We don't really have a handle on [the new material] yet" or saying that for some reason the band doesn't have the fire in their belly to knuckle down and finish the album. What he said to Dean is consistent with what he's said for the past year. Maybe as producer, he doesn't want to set expectations high for a project he isn't able to steer yet. Maybe his public pronouncements are an attempt to make the two big egos involved actually get past detente and finish the job. I'm going with a likely 2018 release until we hear otherwise from a more direct source. Not discounting Don Was at all, I just suspect he might have another motive with these otherwise unprofessional public remarks.