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Hairball
Hi GasLightStreet, been thinking about you - hope all is well with you and your wife.
My wife died September 16th.
Thank you, though, for your kind words.
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GasLightStreet
My wife died September 16th.
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Hairball
Ian, I am indeed a guy (not a gal).
Bleak might have been too strong a word, so lets just say things really aren't looking that bright. And not to sound too doomy and gloomy as I am being cautiously optimistic (an understatement), but somewhere in your timeline above there have been quotes from band members (maybe it was only Ronnie) where they were going to start afresh on all of the material. And then there was Mick's diversion from the band with Getta Grip which seemed like the entire process of the "new" album was going one step forward, and then two steps back. Keith refusing to play on it couldn't have helped the vibe in the studio! Then there was a tour that diverted all of their attention away from the new album, and unfortunately there was no talk at about it amongst the band (see mpj200's post). Seems in between shows or during soundcheck might have been an opportune time to maybe discuss it - even one new song, but as far as we know all was quiet on the battle front. Meanwhile, the tour is over, and Mick was "dating" a 22 year old - do you think he cares about being locked in a studio with Keith any time soon? Then there's Ronnie happily back home with his wife and twins, and Charlie needing a well deserved rest and probably more worried about his horses than a new album. A for Keith, who knows...maybe hibernating like Rip Van Winkle waiting for the UK tour to begin. Either that, or smoking gigantic spliffs and re-organizing his massive record collection.
Hopefully they do have some time to get something done with the new material (if any of it still exists), but with the UK tour on the horizon, they can only give so much of themselves to the band itself.
There's more to life beyond the Rolling Stones and fans expectations for them, and at this point in their 50+ year career, can you blame them for taking their sweet time?
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Hairball
Yes I read that Ian, but weren't you the one who was doubting all the insider information? And now you're quoting heinz57 as if it's the gospel truth? lol
While there's no reason to doubt good old heins57, we should also remember what trustworthy mpj200 previously said. In other words, don't get your hopes up too high and start celebrating just yet.
Even heinz57 himself said "plans can always change", so nothing's etched in stone. Maybe after 13 long years a new album of originals will eventually come out, whether it's in May 2018, or May, 2023 - nobody truly knows, but time will tell.
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Hairball
Yes I read that Ian, but weren't you the one who was doubting all the insider information? And now you're quoting heinz57 as if it's the gospel truth? lol
While there's no reason to doubt good old heins57, we should also remember what trustworthy mpj200 previously said. In other words, don't get your hopes up too high and start celebrating just yet.
Even heinz57 himself said "plans can always change", so nothing's etched in stone. Maybe after 13 long years a new album of originals will eventually come out, whether it's in May 2018, or May, 2023 - nobody truly knows, but time will tell.
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I don't mean to disrespect or make fun of anyone... and I am certainly not saying others are lying or anything like that.
I will say this... (as I always have) ... when 'heinz57' makes the rare appearance here ... in which he or she does ...rarely... it is truth. We've found that out in the past. I have been waiting for heinz57 to say something..
Id say this person is miles beyond anyone here in terms of being in the know... because of what they have told us in the past.. well before even a rumor was started.
I actually think it is someone very...very close to the band. I don't even see this person as an insider.. I see it as someone who is quite close to the group ..possibly family.
So I consider Heinz57 and to a degree Georgelicks the two people onthisboard who know something. I think Georgelicks is only as privy as some people up at Universal are.
I actually think heinz may damn well be a close relative (daughter or something) ..to a band member.
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Yes I read that Ian, but weren't you the one who was doubting all the insider information? And now you're quoting heinz57 as if it's the gospel truth? lol
While there's no reason to doubt good old heins57, we should also remember what trustworthy mpj200 previously said. In other words, don't get your hopes up too high and start celebrating just yet.
Even heinz57 himself said "plans can always change", so nothing's etched in stone. Maybe after 13 long years a new album of originals will eventually come out, whether it's in May 2018, or May, 2023 - nobody truly knows, but time will tell.
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I don't mean to disrespect or make fun of anyone... and I am certainly not saying others are lying or anything like that.
I will say this... (as I always have) ... when 'heinz57' makes the rare appearance here ... in which he or she does ...rarely... it is truth. We've found that out in the past. I have been waiting for heinz57 to say something..
Id say this person is miles beyond anyone here in terms of being in the know... because of what they have told us in the past.. well before even a rumor was started.
I actually think it is someone very...very close to the band. I don't even see this person as an insider.. I see it as someone who is quite close to the group ..possibly family.
So I consider Heinz57 and to a degree Georgelicks the two people onthisboard who know something. I think Georgelicks is only as privy as some people up at Universal are.
I actually think heinz may damn well be a close relative (daughter or something) ..to a band member.
I think you're imagination has run wild!
And what do you have against mpj200? He's always been right on the money as well, but perhaps you're picking and choosing favorites that lean towards your hopes and wishes?
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Monsoon Ragoon
Working on it... forever?!
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Working on it... forever?!
It took him 3 years to record his latest solo album, so 2 years since the first Stones session (Dec 2015) is about right.
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Hairball
I'd settle for another Blue and Lonesome (pt 2), and even though it was only covers and was sort of a novelty, it was the "best Stones album" in decades - plus it sold well for them.
Meanwhile, I would love to hear some more Keith solo material - both old and new. The long talked about superior version of his One More Shot (according to Steve Jordan) would be a nice start.
And a deluxe version of Crosseyed Heart has always been on my wishlist - demos, outtakes, extended versions, etc., etc., etc. Maybe a super duper deluxe box set of all his solo material similar to the Beatles Anthology...including almost ALL of his work outside the Stones (guest appearances live and studio with other artists, etc.). There's a gigantic mountain of material that most Stones fans would die for!
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IanBillen
Now.. Im not a fortune teller so I cannot predict the future.. Hell anything can happen in life .. who knows whats to come in any of our futures ..
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IanBillen
Now.. Im not a fortune teller so I cannot predict the future.. Hell anything can happen in life .. who knows whats to come in any of our futures ..
That about sums it up Ian - none of us know.
And for Keith (or whoever wrote that for him) saying "working on it" is as generic and general as it comes. It's akin to me saying "I'm working on my next series of paintings". That could mean a number of things - daydreaming, drawing sketches, stretching canvas, or the possibility that I'm actually in the process of creating one right now - but there's still a whole series of between 8-10 that need to be completed! It will happen some day, but there's no definite timeline - just like the supposed new album. One thing is certain though, I will have completed a new series of paintings before the Stones release a new album of originals which could be anywhere from May of next year to May of 2023.
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IanBillen
There is good reason to think the album will come .. I'd say its more than just an idea .. Id say its a working plan in action .. though a very...very slow one.
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DandelionPowderman
So they are lying, and you know for a fact that that's correct?
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DandelionPowderman
So they are lying, and you know for a fact that that's correct?