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Hairball
There's the risk that after so much delay, some of the songs they've partially recorded will become obsolete and/or they'll have second thoughts on the quality of them.
And the fact that none of them are even complete could be a case of one step forward, two steps back (or vice versa). Without any focus, everything might just fizzle out with a whimper.
BUT...still hoping this new tour will rejuvenate and inspire them to get back to work (after a few months off), but what happens then is anybody's guess.
Maybe a new album in 2019?
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IanBillen
waiting to get it right is much better than moving forward prematurely with material or in rushing to get something out that needs time.
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IanBillen
waiting to get it right is much better than moving forward prematurely with material or in rushing to get something out that needs time.
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IanBillen
waiting to get it right is much better than moving forward prematurely with material or in rushing to get something out that needs time.
I could have sworn I said the same thing repeatedly about 40-50 pages ago in this very thread, yet there were some who were so anxious and fustrated with the band taking so long (12 years!!!), they were almost angry about it all!!! Just hoping Keith and Mick don't go at eachother again, and can reach a mutual agreement. Out of frustration, Keith might eventually give in and let Mick have his way...if this is the case we can probably expect some more Getta Grips and England Losts...best case scenario another Doom and Gloom and One More Shot. I sure hope not and would really like something that will add to their legacy rather than tainting it, but at this point am having doubts about everything again. Keeping the faith they can get it done some day!
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Socrates1
They're not telling us that, hopkins. That's it! I'm leaving the site. DO NOT try to convince me to stay..
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IanBillen
waiting to get it right is much better than moving forward prematurely with material or in rushing to get something out that needs time.
You're right, of course, but at times it seems they rather wait for it to get right by itself and pursue other activities in the meanwhile ...
Back in the olden days, bands often took a song to the road before recording it in the studio to give it the chance to develop (The Floyd, Zappa, Dylan, Neil Young, ...). Keith himself has said repeatedly over the years that songs would often have benefitted from being played live before being recorded. I don't know if the Stones ever did that but it would certainly be a viable approach so longs as the new material consists of more than just a dynamite riff (and, as a side effect, provide a new repetoire of war foals and make the shows more interesting musically ...). At the same time it is understandable if they wouldn't do that for legal and/or economic reasons alone (not to speak of other reasons). Still a pity, I think.
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Socrates1
Nice one. With beauty and the morally good, you can't go wrong.
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Rocky Dijon
Don't forget Mick's "What Kind of World is This?" played live in 1988 and we're still waiting for a studio version.
As for testing the waters to gauge audience response, in a different fashion, that's what we had with "Gotta Get a Grip" and "England Lost."
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Rocky Dijon
Don't forget Mick's "What Kind of World is This?" played live in 1988 and we're still waiting for a studio version.
As for testing the waters to gauge audience response, in a different fashion, that's what we had with "Gotta Get a Grip" and "England Lost."
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Rocky Dijon
Don't think anyone else has picked up on this yet, but Chuck's blog on August 29th suggests the new album is coming in early 2018:
Yet another Rolling Stones Tour. Rehearsals are underway, and everyone is in top form. There has been some recording during the past year. Chuck was called in to play on the Blues CD and another trip to London to put some tracks on a new musical project which will come out in the winter months.
source: [roseandchucktourdiary.blogspot.com]
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Hairball
Not to be a party pooper, but that blog is written by Chucks wife Rose Lane, so don't know how much weight it should be given as far as inside info. on a new Stones album.
Sounds like wishful thinking for a winter release considering all that's been happening (Getta Grip, etc.), and with Ronnie recently saying the tunes still need alot more work, but we shall eventually see...or not.
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Rocky Dijon
Generally speaking, wives hear from their husbands. I've never known what is posted on Chuck and Rose's blog to be inaccurate or just wishful thinking. The same entries I copied elsewhere had referred to the album as being far less certain around the time of the South American tour last year.
I had heard (and yes, that's hearsay) the album was substantially complete and has been for awhile. It's the usual thing of which mix or which version gets used and what tracks might pinch hit. Specifically whether we get some newly polished outtakes of more recent vintage mixed in or if we get band versions vs. tracks that are more studio creations if you follow my meaning. Of course, common sense says expect a mix of all, but we'll see.
I've posted all this before and have been discounted for it. For now, I'll say we'll see in the first few months of 2018. We'll have an idea before then of course if that's the case.
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IanBillen
I understand it they sort of keep their plans slightly tentative and not fully 110% disclosed with Chuck until they are working on it with him.
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Cristiano Radtke
"Yet another Rolling Stones Tour. Rehearsals are underway, and everyone is in top form. There has been some recording during the past year.
Chuck (Leavell) was called in to play on the Blues CD and another trip to London to put some tracks on a new musical project which will come out in the winter months."
[roseandchucktourdiary.blogspot.com.br]
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Rocky Dijon
Generally speaking, wives hear from their husbands. I've never known what is posted on Chuck and Rose's blog to be inaccurate or just wishful thinking. The same entries I copied elsewhere had referred to the album as being far less certain around the time of the South American tour last year.
I had heard (and yes, that's hearsay) the album was substantially complete and has been for awhile. It's the usual thing of which mix or which version gets used and what tracks might pinch hit. Specifically whether we get some newly polished outtakes of more recent vintage mixed in or if we get band versions vs. tracks that are more studio creations if you follow my meaning. Of course, common sense says expect a mix of all, but we'll see.
I've posted all this before and have been discounted for it. For now, I'll say we'll see in the first few months of 2018. We'll have an idea before then of course if that's the case.
Wasn't doubting you Rocky, was just questioning the accuracy of a blog from Jane Rose considering everything I had mentioned, ie Getta Grip and Ronnie saying tunes need work in a very recent interview, but maybe "wishful thinking" wasn't the right term. The info. she posted runs the gamut from Chuck playing on B&L, to tour rehearsals, and then a brief mention of some new material expected for the winter months - it doesn't really seem to be info. I'd personally place any bets on, but glad you took the time to share it nevertheless. That said, any hope is better than no hope at all I suppose, and only time will tell what happens next.Quote
IanBillen
I understand it they sort of keep their plans slightly tentative and not fully 110% disclosed with Chuck until they are working on it with him.
He wasn't even involved with the initial sessions for Blue and Lonesome, and found out about it well after the fact.
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Rocky Dijon
Well we can certainly agree neither of us knows anything for certain. We can be hopeful or skeptical. Time will tell like always.
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Rocky Dijon
Generally speaking, wives hear from their husbands. I've never known what is posted on Chuck and Rose's blog to be inaccurate or just wishful thinking. The same entries I copied elsewhere had referred to the album as being far less certain around the time of the South American tour last year.
I had heard (and yes, that's hearsay) the album was substantially complete and has been for awhile. It's the usual thing of which mix or which version gets used and what tracks might pinch hit. Specifically whether we get some newly polished outtakes of more recent vintage mixed in or if we get band versions vs. tracks that are more studio creations if you follow my meaning. Of course, common sense says expect a mix of all, but we'll see.
I've posted all this before and have been discounted for it. For now, I'll say we'll see in the first few months of 2018. We'll have an idea before then of course if that's the case.
Wasn't doubting you Rocky, was just questioning the accuracy of a blog from Jane Rose considering everything I had mentioned, ie Getta Grip and Ronnie saying tunes need work in a very recent interview, but maybe "wishful thinking" wasn't the right term. The info. she posted runs the gamut from Chuck playing on B&L, to tour rehearsals, and then a brief mention of some new material expected for the winter months - it doesn't really seem to be info. I'd personally place any bets on, but glad you took the time to share it nevertheless. That said, any hope is better than no hope at all I suppose, and only time will tell what happens next.Quote
IanBillen
I understand it they sort of keep their plans slightly tentative and not fully 110% disclosed with Chuck until they are working on it with him.
He wasn't even involved with the initial sessions for Blue and Lonesome, and found out about it well after the fact.