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Doxa
To me it looks good.. By this stage, all of them being all together in a studio, if they really are recording there - why not, as BV said, recording could be a good way to rehearse (they really don't need to re-learn how "Start Me Up" goes, but probably just get the right 'band feel') - that goes nicely along the scenario that was speculated some pages ago. That of them trying cut the new songs the way they did BLUE & LONESOME, that is, knowing the songs beforehand, being prepared before hitting the studio (and not starting from the scratch). And then, cut them quick and effectively. That was something Ronnie mentioned ages ago (of them re-cutting all the stuff they've done so far) and Jagger also thinking aloud some time ago (using the effective BLUE&LONESOME method). One could imagine had they made the album from the base of some backing tracks (or Mick's infamous demos), building up there piece by piece, they would be now just 'finishing' them, adding over-dubs, probably mixing... For that they wouldn't need the whole band. Which isn't the case now.

Of course, none of this promises anything of how good the results will be, but anyway, I don't mind being optimistic...

- Doxa

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Doxa
To me it looks good.. By this stage, all of them being all together in a studio, if they really are recording there - why not, as BV said, recording could be a good way to rehearse (they really don't need to re-learn how "Start Me Up" goes, but probably just get the right 'band feel') - that goes nicely along the scenario that was speculated some pages ago. That of them trying cut the new songs the way they did BLUE & LONESOME, that is, knowing the songs beforehand, being prepared before hitting the studio (and not starting from the scratch). And then, cut them quick and effectively. That was something Ronnie mentioned ages ago (of them re-cutting all the stuff they've done so far) and Jagger also thinking aloud some time ago (using the effective BLUE&LONESOME method). One could imagine had they made the album from the base of some backing tracks (or Mick's infamous demos), building up there piece by piece, they would be now just 'finishing' them, adding over-dubs, probably mixing... For that they wouldn't need the whole band. Which isn't the case now.

Of course, none of this promises anything of how good the results will be, but anyway, I don't mind being optimistic...

- Doxa

Glass is half full, fingers crossed...

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DandelionPowderman
Ronnie's I Feel Like Playing was pretty strong, too.

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Ronnie's I Feel Like Playing was pretty strong, too.

I agree, but not sure I would consider it as the beginning of the "upward spiral" considering his songwriting and all around input with the Stones in general - though his playing was one of the highlights on B&L.
And in order to keep it a "trilogy of greats", have to fast forward and begin with CH.

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Ronnie's I Feel Like Playing was pretty strong, too.

I agree, but not sure I would consider it as the beginning of the "upward spiral" considering his songwriting and all around input with the Stones in general - though his playing was one of the highlights on B&L.
And in order to keep it a "trilogy of greats", have to fast forward and begin with CH.

It could have kickstarted something, as he proved himself back in shape and with his chops down. Later that year, Keith invited the guys in the band to jam. Keith himself had been working on CH.

I don't know...

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Ronnie's I Feel Like Playing was pretty strong, too.

I agree, but not sure I would consider it as the beginning of the "upward spiral" considering his songwriting and all around input with the Stones in general - though his playing was one of the highlights on B&L.
And in order to keep it a "trilogy of greats", have to fast forward and begin with CH.

It could have kickstarted something, as he proved himself back in shape and with his chops down. Later that year, Keith invited the guys in the band to jam. Keith himself had been working on CH.

I don't know...

OK - can't think of the word after trilogy...something that comes in fours...

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Ronnie's I Feel Like Playing was pretty strong, too.

I agree, but not sure I would consider it as the beginning of the "upward spiral" considering his songwriting and all around input with the Stones in general - though his playing was one of the highlights on B&L.
And in order to keep it a "trilogy of greats", have to fast forward and begin with CH.

It could have kickstarted something, as he proved himself back in shape and with his chops down. Later that year, Keith invited the guys in the band to jam. Keith himself had been working on CH.

I don't know...

OK - can't think of the word after trilogy...something that comes in fours...

That's why we only have trilogies........><

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Ronnie's I Feel Like Playing was pretty strong, too.

I agree, but not sure I would consider it as the beginning of the "upward spiral" considering his songwriting and all around input with the Stones in general - though his playing was one of the highlights on B&L.
And in order to keep it a "trilogy of greats", have to fast forward and begin with CH.

It could have kickstarted something, as he proved himself back in shape and with his chops down. Later that year, Keith invited the guys in the band to jam. Keith himself had been working on CH.

I don't know...

OK - can't think of the word after trilogy...something that comes in fours...

That's why we only have trilogies........><

That one always stumps me!

Is it Fourology? Quadrilogy? Four of a Kind? Two pair?


LOL!

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Ronnie's I Feel Like Playing was pretty strong, too.

I agree, but not sure I would consider it as the beginning of the "upward spiral" considering his songwriting and all around input with the Stones in general - though his playing was one of the highlights on B&L.
And in order to keep it a "trilogy of greats", have to fast forward and begin with CH.

It could have kickstarted something, as he proved himself back in shape and with his chops down. Later that year, Keith invited the guys in the band to jam. Keith himself had been working on CH.

I don't know...

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barbabang
Nice analysis on the Exile and Some Girls projects Doxa, do you have a link to that italian radio interview with Jagger about Exile?

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No desperation, only looking for what kickstarted them after the ABB-tour hiatus, when they looked done.

Jagger's work with the bonus tracks and Superheavy are indeed valid examples.

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But if we sum up little this historical reconstruction; the path leading to the upcoming non-disputed masterpiece:

I FEEL LIKE PLAYING shows that Ronnie Wood can still play some tasty guitar.

EXILE/SOME GIRLS DELUXE projects show that Jagger can finish up a classical Jagger/Richards song if the song sketch is inspiring enough.

CROSSEYED HEART shows that Keith also can play some tasty guitar and write some nice song sketches.

BLUE & LONESOME shows that the band still 'got it' if needed (plus that Jagger being in a rather top form as a singer and a harp player and Charlie is Charlie).

Do the maths: we have a winner in our hands soon, right?

- Doxa

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But if we sum up little this historical reconstruction; the path leading to the upcoming non-disputed masterpiece:

I FEEL LIKE PLAYING shows that Ronnie Wood can still play some tasty guitar.

EXILE/SOME GIRLS DELUXE projects show that Jagger can finish up a classical Jagger/Richards song if the song sketch is inspiring enough.

CROSSEYED HEART shows that Keith also can play some tasty guitar and write some nice song sketches.

BLUE & LONESOME shows that the band still 'got it' if needed (plus that Jagger being in a rather top form as a singer and a harp player and Charlie is Charlie).

Do the maths: we have a winner in our hands soon, right?

- Doxa

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Thanks for bringing your own bit of doom and gloom. The place was getting way too positive. I could barely stand it.

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Hi. Well actually Daryl and Don Was and Chuck are not 'always there'. They were not there initially in 2012 when they reconvened. Ronnie and Daryl were not there much of A Bigger Bang sessions. In fact.. Ronnie came late. Hell even Charlie wasn't there for a good while (cancer).

When they have the whole ensemble together flying across the world to a rented out studio (maybe the finest recording studio in all of Europe ..One of the finest in the whole world) .. planned out for a month or two before hand... the sessions are not loose and causual or just to see what takes place. I guarantee all songs are written at this point and they are laying down the material. The sessions /sessions that are taking place with said situation and all said members and staff at said studios are for a sole purpose.. I can guarantee they are not just to see what takes place or to take it as it comes. They all flew half way across the world and adjusted their schedules accordingly for a definite recording reason with an outcome in mind... no doubt.

Well, I actually hope you're right As for Stones sessions, 'being loose' does not mean being fallow. Some great things can come out if they are, and that's just what happened with Blue and Lonesome where they also had Darryl but Matt instead of Chuck there (as for ABB, I though it had to do with Charlie's cancer that Mick and Keith worked alone in the beginning). Of course I don't mean Exile-lose, they won't just hang around and jam with some Riffs for hours as they did back in the day. But as they don't have to proove anything these days, they might not see themselves under the pressure to finish it until the tour starts. They've been in the studio around three times since 2015, and there is no doubt they are slowly putting together something. But we don't know if they commit themselves to finish it right now.

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But if we sum up little this historical reconstruction; the path leading to the upcoming non-disputed masterpiece:

I FEEL LIKE PLAYING shows that Ronnie Wood can still play some tasty guitar.

EXILE/SOME GIRLS DELUXE projects show that Jagger can finish up a classical Jagger/Richards song if the song sketch is inspiring enough.

CROSSEYED HEART shows that Keith also can play some tasty guitar and write some nice song sketches.

BLUE & LONESOME shows that the band still 'got it' if needed (plus that Jagger being in a rather top form as a singer and a harp player and Charlie is Charlie).

Do the maths: we have a winner in our hands soon, right?

- Doxa

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But if we sum up little this historical reconstruction; the path leading to the upcoming non-disputed masterpiece:

I FEEL LIKE PLAYING shows that Ronnie Wood can still play some tasty guitar.

EXILE/SOME GIRLS DELUXE projects show that Jagger can finish up a classical Jagger/Richards song if the song sketch is inspiring enough.

CROSSEYED HEART shows that Keith also can play some tasty guitar and write some nice song sketches.

BLUE & LONESOME shows that the band still 'got it' if needed (plus that Jagger being in a rather top form as a singer and a harp player and Charlie is Charlie).

Do the maths: we have a winner in our hands soon, right?

- Doxa

Be careful, Doxa: Music is no maths. Sometimes 1 + 1 does not equal 2. When I first heard Harlem Shuffle/Had It With You, I truly believed we had a winner in our hands soon. The outcome was Dirty Work. Then again, after hearing Just Your Fool, my feeling that the album would turn out great was not disappointed. Once thing's for sure: There are positive signs. Let's just hope that everything adds up to a great album that if it really turns out to be their very last of new recordings deserves the title: "A fitting, perfect finale to a fantastic, unparalleled career". That is what I wish them by heart. And I have the feeling that the band wishes to achieve exactly that, too.