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I don't know about he health thing, but you are correct about the thread. 28 pages of people attempting to construct facts from snippets of throwaway conversations, completely forgetting that, for decades, there is no relationship between what the various Stones say in public as far as recordings and what actually transpires. (it's called public relations).
The only thing anyone can say for sure is if in the future they ever come up with a bunch of recorded songs they want to release, then there will be a new album. The rest is speculation
Charlie seemed not to know that Blue & Lonesome was also up for nomination....
I hope he had a couple cocktails before this interview....
Appeared to me that he initially thought the interviewer was congratulating him on winning the B&L award.. which I'm sure they knew they were likely to but wasn't awarded yet.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2017-04-26 22:28 by MisterDDDD.
Oh you Doubting Thomas, shame on you!
As our moderator says that it is going to be "great" and as Don Was just said of them being "the most hard-working and talented musicians to ever step in front of a microphone”, all I can do at the moment is to enrich my English vocabulary to be ready to describe the upcoming album with enough accurate superlatives...
- Doxa
Could be
Oh no, they hit the wall with those 40 Mick Jagger demos - because they are total crap as anyone - at last here - can know without hearing any of them (or without any who might even heard them, be it Was or Richards, actually claiming that) and they've been that since Jagger dared to suggest to them record crap he had composed like "Sympathy For The Devil", "You Can't Always Get What You Want", or "Brown Sugar", since, in the end, it is Mick Jagger (equal total crap) you know.. - and most likely they will never ever touch any of them again, and a brand new Rolling Stones will be totally free of any shit like that. Let's have Keith and his ace-holder Ronnie calling the shots again and we finally have an equavalent to "Gimme Shelter" and LET IT BLEED... or at least DIRTY WORK...
Seriously, people suggesting anything of any music never heard by anyone here is a bit.... hmmm...
But of course, since Keith Richards has said something to the effect that he has some three dynamite riffs and is not eager in some odd cirmustances to record some "profilic" Jagger songs that, we can imply rather easily how all that music mentioned sounds like... The gospel of Richards, open to any (mis-)representations of his true followers... Nothing is easier to interpret and predict in the Stones world than the logic and actions of "Keithettes" (bless their hearts)...
- Doxa
Edited 6 time(s). Last edit at 2017-05-07 05:16 by Doxa.
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Rip this joint, gonna save your soul, round and round and round we go......
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Ouch ...That looks painful >> perhaps folks are ..."hitting their heads against the wall" in seeing us decipher and debate all this over... and over... and over ... and over ...and ... well.. you get the point
Ian
Since we finally are leaving the realm of speculation behind and reaching the stage of exact science, let us develop the formula a bit further, to be more precise:
((40x"Streets Of Love" + 40x"Doom&Gloom")/2 + (3x"Infamy" + 3x"One More Shot")/2)/3
But then again, your last remark will make things a bit more complicated...
Then we need to formulate it, by taking the words of Keith Richards stating actual facts, a bit differently:
(40x + 3y)/3,
in which the variables are to be interpreted:
x<"Streets Of Love"
y="Jumpin' Jack Flash"
So predicting the quality of an upcoming Rolling Stones album isn't any rocket science, now is it?
- Doxa
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2017-05-08 08:52 by Doxa.
I fully expect Keith Richards to evaluate the new album as "the best Stones yet" and the 'critical' (baby boom) musical press it as "the best Stones since EXILE or SOME GIRLS"...
- Doxa
><
...and 'My cards are on the table'?!
I'm surprised nobody mentioned the «sevens, eights and nines» as yet...
"No Fllter" could be the name of the album....
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Re: Another album in 2017 ?
Posted by:
Rokyfan
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Date: April 26, 2017 21:20
Quote
Kurt
This thread just keeps getting more depressing. SAD SAD SAD.
Seriously, have we all been sorted neatly into the Mick v. Keith camps yet?
@#$%& Hell.
Is anyone really so narrow-minded to believe that "three killer songs" actually EXIST from Keith and that Mick REFUSES to work on them?
Is anyone really so narrow-minded to believe that Mick has written "40 songs" that Keith HAS TO PLAY ON OR ELSE?
Take a step back, people.
I do so hope that the FOUR of them are healthy.
I don't know about he health thing, but you are correct about the thread. 28 pages of people attempting to construct facts from snippets of throwaway conversations, completely forgetting that, for decades, there is no relationship between what the various Stones say in public as far as recordings and what actually transpires. (it's called public relations).
The only thing anyone can say for sure is if in the future they ever come up with a bunch of recorded songs they want to release, then there will be a new album. The rest is speculation
Re: Another album in 2017 ?
Posted by:
Maindefender
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Date: April 26, 2017 22:21
Charlie seemed not to know that Blue & Lonesome was also up for nomination....
I hope he had a couple cocktails before this interview....
Re: Another album in 2017 ?
Posted by:
MisterDDDD
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Date: April 26, 2017 22:28
Quote
Maindefender
Charlie seemed not to know that Blue & Lonesome was also up for nomination....
I hope he had a couple cocktails before this interview....
Appeared to me that he initially thought the interviewer was congratulating him on winning the B&L award.. which I'm sure they knew they were likely to but wasn't awarded yet.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2017-04-26 22:28 by MisterDDDD.
Re: Another album in 2017 ?
Posted by:
Doxa
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Date: April 26, 2017 22:34
Quote
Hairball
There were eight long years between Bridges and A Bigger Bang, and while I don't know how, when, or where ABB was all recorded, the results left a bit to be deisred imo. So now we're at the 12 year mark since ABB and nothing original released yet. Will all this extra time guarantee an album? I hope so. Will it guarantee a great album? Hard to predict. While I'm hopeful it will be great, based on the eight years it took to put ABB together and the final results, it's hard to be optimistic. But coming after the success of B&L covers (sales wise), maybe they can get their priorities in order and put their differences aside, and it will push them towards something great. Only time will tell....
Oh you Doubting Thomas, shame on you!
As our moderator says that it is going to be "great" and as Don Was just said of them being "the most hard-working and talented musicians to ever step in front of a microphone”, all I can do at the moment is to enrich my English vocabulary to be ready to describe the upcoming album with enough accurate superlatives...
- Doxa
Re: Another album in 2017 ?
Posted by:
Maindefender
()
Date: April 26, 2017 22:55
Quote
MisterDDDDQuote
Maindefender
Charlie seemed not to know that Blue & Lonesome was also up for nomination....
I hope he had a couple cocktails before this interview....
Appeared to me that he initially thought the interviewer was congratulating him on winning the B&L award.. which I'm sure they knew they were likely to but wasn't awarded yet.
Could be
Re: Another album in 2017 ?
Posted by:
35love
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Date: May 7, 2017 02:25
You know what I thought about today/remembered
somewhere in this thread is a picture of the RS in the studio
and we copped 2 titles of new songs
one was (pretty sure! no patience to find that pic!)
'Get Off My Back'
Ohh can't wait do you think Mick's going to sneer
leave me the F alone
or is it Keith
LOL
BRING IT RS!
somewhere in this thread is a picture of the RS in the studio
and we copped 2 titles of new songs
one was (pretty sure! no patience to find that pic!)
'Get Off My Back'
Ohh can't wait do you think Mick's going to sneer
leave me the F alone
or is it Keith
LOL
BRING IT RS!
Re: Another album in 2017 ?
Posted by:
Rocky Dijon
()
Date: May 7, 2017 02:30
Pretty sure it was "Get Out of My Way" and I believe the other title was "Driving Me Too Hard."
Re: Another album in 2017 ?
Posted by:
35love
()
Date: May 7, 2017 02:38
I could of sworn it was 'Get Off My Back'
LOL
I crack myself up (or am cracking up)
Thanks for the pic
Hope the boys are in the studio feeling crazy too
LOL
I crack myself up (or am cracking up)
Thanks for the pic
Hope the boys are in the studio feeling crazy too
Re: Another album in 2017 ?
Posted by:
RipThisBone
()
Date: May 7, 2017 03:06
Dec. 11, 2015
British Grove Studios, London:
1. DRIVE ME TOO HARD
2. GET OUT OF MY WAY
............................... (producer Don Was: "We Hit The Wall")
.......Keith had informed Ronnie to learn/play Blue and Lonesome.......
Poor old Mick knew nothing about it, but...........SURPRISE!
3. BLUE & LONESOME
4. HATE TO SEE YOU GO
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IT'S ONLY PLANNED (but I Like It)
British Grove Studios, London:
1. DRIVE ME TOO HARD
2. GET OUT OF MY WAY
............................... (producer Don Was: "We Hit The Wall")
.......Keith had informed Ronnie to learn/play Blue and Lonesome.......
Poor old Mick knew nothing about it, but...........SURPRISE!
3. BLUE & LONESOME
4. HATE TO SEE YOU GO
................................................
IT'S ONLY PLANNED (but I Like It)
Re: Another album in 2017 ?
Posted by:
IanBillen
()
Date: May 7, 2017 03:58
No really ...they hit the wall with those two songs ... They hit the wall so much with them they actually had them on the list next to the Blue & Lonsesome somgs to record them .. ...
FORGET THE HIT THE WALL THING PEOPLE .. i- yi- yi (was no big deal folks smh lol).
FORGET THE HIT THE WALL THING PEOPLE .. i- yi- yi (was no big deal folks smh lol).
Re: Another album in 2017 ?
Posted by:
Doxa
()
Date: May 7, 2017 04:40
Quote
IanBillen
No really ...they hit the wall with those two songs ... They hit the wall so much with them they actually had them on the list next to the Blue & Lonsesome somgs to record them .. ...
FORGET THE HIT THE WALL THING PEOPLE .. i- yi- yi (was no big deal folks smh lol).
Oh no, they hit the wall with those 40 Mick Jagger demos - because they are total crap as anyone - at last here - can know without hearing any of them (or without any who might even heard them, be it Was or Richards, actually claiming that) and they've been that since Jagger dared to suggest to them record crap he had composed like "Sympathy For The Devil", "You Can't Always Get What You Want", or "Brown Sugar", since, in the end, it is Mick Jagger (equal total crap) you know.. - and most likely they will never ever touch any of them again, and a brand new Rolling Stones will be totally free of any shit like that. Let's have Keith and his ace-holder Ronnie calling the shots again and we finally have an equavalent to "Gimme Shelter" and LET IT BLEED... or at least DIRTY WORK...
Seriously, people suggesting anything of any music never heard by anyone here is a bit.... hmmm...
But of course, since Keith Richards has said something to the effect that he has some three dynamite riffs and is not eager in some odd cirmustances to record some "profilic" Jagger songs that, we can imply rather easily how all that music mentioned sounds like... The gospel of Richards, open to any (mis-)representations of his true followers... Nothing is easier to interpret and predict in the Stones world than the logic and actions of "Keithettes" (bless their hearts)...
- Doxa
Edited 6 time(s). Last edit at 2017-05-07 05:16 by Doxa.
Re: Another album in 2017 ?
Posted by:
Hairball
()
Date: May 7, 2017 05:01
Quote
IanBillen
FORGET THE HIT THE WALL THING PEOPLE .. i- yi- yi (was no big deal folks smh lol).
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Rip this joint, gonna save your soul, round and round and round we go......
Re: Another album in 2017 ?
Posted by:
Doxa
()
Date: May 7, 2017 05:10
But I need to say that Keith Richards is a loyal Rolling Stone if anyone ever is. He didn't use any of those "dynamite riffs" in his solo album but saved them for the Stones. He was so loyal that seemingly kept all that dynamite - I can not hear there any of that - hidden in CROSSEYED HEART in order to, I can only guess, to explode the world with the next Stones album.
I am so full of expectations for the next Stones album. I am eager to blow my mind with those three dynamite riffs. Since "Start Me Up" I have waited that day to come. Of course I trust Keef's word here.
Or is the new Stones album: (40x"Doom&Gloom" + 3x"One More Shot")/3?
- Doxa
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2017-05-07 05:17 by Doxa.
I am so full of expectations for the next Stones album. I am eager to blow my mind with those three dynamite riffs. Since "Start Me Up" I have waited that day to come. Of course I trust Keef's word here.
Or is the new Stones album: (40x"Doom&Gloom" + 3x"One More Shot")/3?
- Doxa
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2017-05-07 05:17 by Doxa.
Re: Another album in 2017 ?
Posted by:
IanBillen
()
Date: May 7, 2017 07:17
Quote
HairballQuote
IanBillen
FORGET THE HIT THE WALL THING PEOPLE .. i- yi- yi (was no big deal folks smh lol).
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Ouch ...That looks painful >> perhaps folks are ..."hitting their heads against the wall" in seeing us decipher and debate all this over... and over... and over ... and over ...and ... well.. you get the point
Ian
Re: Another album in 2017 ?
Posted by:
KRiffhard
()
Date: May 7, 2017 08:47
Quote
Doxa
But I need to say that Keith Richards is a loyal Rolling Stone if anyone ever is. He didn't use any of those "dynamite riffs" in his solo album but saved them for the Stones. He was so loyal that seemingly kept all that dynamite - I can not hear there any of that - hidden in CROSSEYED HEART in order to, I can only guess, to explode the world with the next Stones album.
I am so full of expectations for the next Stones album. I am eager to blow my mind with those three dynamite riffs. Since "Start Me Up" I have waited that day to come. Of course I trust Keef's word here.
Or is the new Stones album: (40x"Doom&Gloom" + 3x"One More Shot")/3?
...or poor songs like 'Drive of Shame'?
- Doxa
Re: Another album in 2017 ?
Posted by:
Witness
()
Date: May 7, 2017 10:00
The correct formula must obviously be (40x"Streets of Love"+3x"Infamy")/3.
When you brought that quote in another thread, Doxa, about Keith liking "Streets of Love" very much, the explanation has to be in comparison with those 40 Mick demos all in the vein of "Streets of Love", which he recently have been exposed to, and which do not quite match the model song.
When you brought that quote in another thread, Doxa, about Keith liking "Streets of Love" very much, the explanation has to be in comparison with those 40 Mick demos all in the vein of "Streets of Love", which he recently have been exposed to, and which do not quite match the model song.
Re: Another album in 2017 ?
Posted by:
Rip This
()
Date: May 7, 2017 15:36
40 Jagger demos is a good start.Last thing needed is another Crosseyed Heart snoozefest....Some of the Keith ballads were ok and nonwithstanding
Re: Another album in 2017 ?
Posted by:
Captainchaos
()
Date: May 7, 2017 18:36
When a good songs written & complete it doesnt mean the jobs done. It then normally gets cooked in as many ways as possible, diferent textures, styles, tempo's, structure before the final finished display of the song is ready, sometimes it just starts off right and seems easy, sometimes you've to try everything with it before you get what you need but that can take oodles & oodles of jams/messing with it as a band. if your tryin to get this whilst in a studio its not normally going to come through bang on 9 out of 10.
Some songs you need to afford the band/players a period of chewin on it before the shapes or even just the bones are solid
Some songs you need to afford the band/players a period of chewin on it before the shapes or even just the bones are solid
Re: Another album in 2017 ?
Posted by:
Rocky Dijon
()
Date: May 8, 2017 01:17
I fully expect to get a new album with Mick songs ("We took a walk in the park / We played with the sharks" ) and a couple new Keith songs ("Baby, baby, baby / Honey, honey, honey" ). I just don't expect "the best Stones yet" or "the best Stones since Exile or Some Girls." Keith isn't so much full of shit as he is a brilliant PR man who makes it seem like he's being cool telling fans and the media how it really is.
Re: Another album in 2017 ?
Posted by:
beachbreak
()
Date: May 8, 2017 04:07
I liked One More Shot with the exception of that bridge.....I love I love I love or something like that.
Re: Another album in 2017 ?
Posted by:
Doxa
()
Date: May 8, 2017 08:45
Quote
Witness
The correct formula must obviously be (40x"Streets of Love"+3x"Infamy")/3.
When you brought that quote in another thread, Doxa, about Keith liking "Streets of Love" very much, the explanation has to be in comparison with those 40 Mick demos all in the vein of "Streets of Love", which he recently have been exposed to, and which do not quite match the model song.
Since we finally are leaving the realm of speculation behind and reaching the stage of exact science, let us develop the formula a bit further, to be more precise:
((40x"Streets Of Love" + 40x"Doom&Gloom")/2 + (3x"Infamy" + 3x"One More Shot")/2)/3
But then again, your last remark will make things a bit more complicated...
Then we need to formulate it, by taking the words of Keith Richards stating actual facts, a bit differently:
(40x + 3y)/3,
in which the variables are to be interpreted:
x<"Streets Of Love"
y="Jumpin' Jack Flash"
So predicting the quality of an upcoming Rolling Stones album isn't any rocket science, now is it?
- Doxa
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2017-05-08 08:52 by Doxa.
Re: Another album in 2017 ?
Posted by:
Doxa
()
Date: May 8, 2017 08:51
Quote
Rocky Dijon
I fully expect to get a new album with Mick songs ("We took a walk in the park / We played with the sharks" ) and a couple new Keith songs ("Baby, baby, baby / Honey, honey, honey" ). I just don't expect "the best Stones yet" or "the best Stones since Exile or Some Girls." Keith isn't so much full of shit as he is a brilliant PR man who makes it seem like he's being cool telling fans and the media how it really is.
I fully expect Keith Richards to evaluate the new album as "the best Stones yet" and the 'critical' (baby boom) musical press it as "the best Stones since EXILE or SOME GIRLS"...
- Doxa
Re: Another album in 2017 ?
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
()
Date: May 8, 2017 10:16
Maybe we get a quadruple album with 43 songs...
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2017-05-08 10:19 by DandelionPowderman.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2017-05-08 10:19 by DandelionPowderman.
Re: Another album in 2017 ?
Posted by:
MoreFastNumbers
()
Date: May 8, 2017 10:33
Quote
Rocky Dijon
I fully expect to get a new album with Mick songs ("We took a walk in the park / We played with the sharks" ) and a couple new Keith songs ("Baby, baby, baby / Honey, honey, honey" )...
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<Re: Another album in 2017 ?
Posted by:
KRiffhard
()
Date: May 8, 2017 11:50
Quote
Rocky Dijon
I fully expect to get a new album with Mick songs ("We took a walk in the park / We played with the sharks" ) and a couple new Keith songs ("Baby, baby, baby / Honey, honey, honey" ). I just don't expect "the best Stones yet" or "the best Stones since Exile or Some Girls." Keith isn't so much full of shit as he is a brilliant PR man who makes it seem like he's being cool telling fans and the media how it really is.
...and 'My cards are on the table'?!
Re: Another album in 2017 ?
Posted by:
Rocky Dijon
()
Date: May 8, 2017 21:50
Don't forget Keith's "We used your deck / All I did was play the cards."
Re: Another album in 2017 ?
Posted by:
KRiffhard
()
Date: May 9, 2017 12:50
...so, no new album in 2017. 
Re: Another album in 2017 ?
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
()
Date: May 9, 2017 13:01
Quote
Rocky Dijon
Don't forget Keith's "We used your deck / All I did was play the cards."
I'm surprised nobody mentioned the «sevens, eights and nines» as yet...
Re: Another album in 2017 ?
Posted by:
Maindefender
()
Date: May 9, 2017 13:11
Quote
KRiffhard
...so, no new album in 2017.
"No Fllter" could be the name of the album....
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