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Re: O/T Leonard Cohen has passed away..........
Date: November 11, 2016 10:50

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So grateful to have seen in Cohen in '09. Just bought and started reading Sylvie Simmons biography about a week ago with the new record out

I saw him the same year - on the local stadium, 2 minutes from where I live. A surreal experience and a great show!

Re: O/T Leonard Cohen has passed away..........
Posted by: windmelody ()
Date: November 11, 2016 10:54

Adieu!

Re: O/T Leonard Cohen has passed away..........
Posted by: KingmanBarstow ()
Date: November 11, 2016 11:41

Very sad, R.I.P. Leonard.

Re: O/T Leonard Cohen has passed away..........
Posted by: dead.flowers ()
Date: November 11, 2016 11:44

Thank you Leonard and so long ...

Re: O/T Leonard Cohen has passed away..........
Posted by: Happy24 ()
Date: November 11, 2016 11:55

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So grateful to have seen in Cohen in '09. Just bought and started reading Sylvie Simmons biography about a week ago with the new record out

One of the best biographies I have ever read. Very nice book.

Re: O/T Leonard Cohen has passed away..........
Posted by: Ladykiller ()
Date: November 11, 2016 12:26

RIP Leonard Cohen

Thanx for your great music. I saw you in a very good concert in 2008.

Re: O/T Leonard Cohen has passed away..........
Posted by: RollingFreak ()
Date: November 11, 2016 12:45

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Saw him in New York a couple of times. Carnegie Hall in '88 and at what used to be called the Felt Forum in '93. The first time I saw him, he played this dinky little keyboard solo during "Tower of Song." When he finished it, a couple of people clapped and he said, "Thank you, you are far too kind!" I guess you had to be there, but it was pretty funny and it got a big laugh. So the second time I saw him, he did "Tower of Song" again, and played this ridiculous little keyboard solo again, and this time no one clapped. You could see him pause, waiting, expecting someone to applaud so he could deliver his punch line, but no one did. I thought, "Shit, I guess I better help him out here" so I clapped. Sure enough, he turned and looked at me over his shoulder and said, "Thank you, you are far too kind!" Uproarious laughter. One of my most favorite concert memories, ever.

Looks like this is basically the moment you mean. Very funny!

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Re: O/T Leonard Cohen has passed away..........
Posted by: BowieStone ()
Date: November 11, 2016 12:47

I heard he was ready (my Lord). Leaving the table, out of the game.

His output a bit samey for me. But some truly great songs (even now, I Want it Darker... great track).

R.I.P. Leonard Cohen.



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Re: O/T Leonard Cohen has passed away..........
Posted by: MAF ()
Date: November 11, 2016 12:59

"I'm ready, My Lord"


One of the very best songwriters, a great gentleman, an extraordinary voice.
I saw him one time live in the 80s. It was a very special concert.

Re: O/T Leonard Cohen has passed away..........
Posted by: with sssoul ()
Date: November 11, 2016 13:28

Ohhh no
Love and light to him - love and light, and thanks and praises.

Re: O/T Leonard Cohen has passed away..........
Posted by: swiss ()
Date: November 11, 2016 13:38

?1967 Village Voice article "Leonard Cohen: The Beautiful Creep"

And the child on whose shoulders I stand
whose longing I purged
with public, kingly discipline
today I bring him back
to languish forever,
not in confession or biography,
but where he flourished
growing sly and hairy
- Leonard Cohen (The Spice Box of Earth)

AN ELEVATOR man with hairy hands grumbles "shit," as he takes me up. It is a massive mid-town hotel, in steep decline. The corridors are long and lit occasionally, like a cardboard coal mine. Humid ladies in black lace seem to peer from every transom, and old men with their backs turned lurk in every shadowy corner. There is a smell of stale cigars, or is it piss? I knock politely on a wafer-thin door, and wait.

Finally it opens, and Leonard Cohen, Canada's most acclaimed young poet and novelist, offers a seat and some coffee. He has been listening to a tape of the half-completed album on which he will soon make his debut as a pop star (a year ago that would have given even me pause, but not today, when Leonard Bernstein picks the hits and the Partisan Review talks about "Learning from the Beatles" ). His verse — collected in slim volumes perfect for pressing roses — so unabashedly romantic that it sits among my New Directions paperbacks like some later day Ossian from the North.

With Annie gone
whose eyes to compare
with the morning sun.
Not that I did compare,
but I do
now that she's gone.
- "For Annie"

No wonder Allen Ginsberg huffed out of a meeting with Leonard Cohen muttering, "This place looks like a ballet set." There is a sinewy quality to those muscular images as they stretch across a page. There is a shameless agility to those leaps and conceits, which seems ethereal next to the boog-a-loo of modern verse.

But Leonard Cohen is a Visceral Romantic and he can hit you unawares because his emotions are recollected with anything but tranquility. He suffers gloriously in every couplet. Even his moments of ecstasy seem predicated on hours of refined despair. Leonard does not rant: he whispers hell and you must strain to hear his agony.

The fact is, I'm turning to gold, turning to gold.
It's a long process, they say it happens in stages.
This is to inform you that I've already turned to clay.
- "The Cuckold's Song"

Today, he faces me across a hotel room with the sun shining second hand in the windows down the block. The drapes are as florid as his verse. In fact, the room could be the set for most of his poems. The bedspread is faded, and you can hear the toilet. Atop the bureau is a seashell ashtray, embossed with Miami palm trees. To this pasteboard Chappaqua, Leonard Cohen has added only a Madonna decal for the mirror, and a terrible cold.

His front pockets bulge with tissues and Sucrets. The cold seems appropriate; his nose aches to be filled anyway. It is a huge nose, etched by some melancholy woodcarver into the hollows of his cheeks. He wipes it and wheezes gently as we hear a tape of his song, 'Teachers'.

Though he claims he has always written with a typewriter for a guitar ("I sometimes see myself in the Court of Ferdinand, singing my songs to girls over a lute" ), Leonard Cohen has been spending this past year or so creating lyrics with real melodies. He made his pop debut recently as Judy Collins' beautiful person. Her choice was inspired; Leonard Cohen has written her best material — songs of love and torment powerful enough to be fairy tales.

And just when you mean to tell her
That you have no love to give her
Then she gets you on her wave length
And she lets the river answer
That you've always been her lover.
And you want to travel with her
And you want to travel blind
And you know that she will trust you
For you've touched her perfect body with your mind.
- "Suzanne"

"I think my album is going to be very spotty and undistinguished," he says in greeting. His eyes sag like two worn breasts. "I blame this on my total unfamiliarity with the recording studio. They tried to make my songs into music. I got put down all the time." He sits back on his bed, folds his hands in his lap, and lets his voice fade into an echo of itself: "It was a continual struggle... continual... they wanted to put me in bags. I thought I was going to... crack up."

He is modestly addicted to cracking up. References to breakdowns past and future dot his conversation. He seems to judge periods in his life by his failure to cope with them. His favorite words — or those he uses most frequently — are "wiped out" and "bewildered."

"When you get wiped out — and it does happen in one's life — that's the moment... the REAL moment. Around 30 or 35 is the traditional age for the suicide of the poet, did you know that?" (You look around for razors, pills, sharp edges, or easy plunges.) "That's the age when you finally understand that the universe does not succumb to your command."

That moment magnified into theme, is the chief concern of his major novel, Beautiful Losers. It is a multisexual love story, ecstatically, lyric like his poems, but deeply committed as prose to expressing its theme through an accumulation of detail. Its protagonist, a petty researcher, is victimized by the love of his wife and of his best friend. They control his life: soothe him, @#$%& him, teach him, cuckold him, and ultimately destroy him. Their triangle, joined on all sides, is further complicated by Catherine Tekakwitha, an Indian saint who fixes herself in the protagonist's consciousness as an extension of his wife (also an Indian) and his own suffering. Martyred by the suicides of both his lover-tormentors, our hero is left to ponder the moral of Catherine's life: suffering is madness, but it is also the sacred ground where Man encounters God. Somehow, we are all fated to walk that ground, is Leonard Cohen's message. To embrace that agony of communion is to live with grace.

It begins with your family,.
But soon it comes round to your soul.
Well, I've been where you're hanging
I think I can see where you're pinned
When you're not feeling holy
Your loneliness says that you've sinned.
- "Sisters of Mercy"

He was born in Montreal, to a wealthy Jewish family. "I had a very Messianic childhood," he recalls. "I was told I was a descendent of Aaron, the high priest. My parents actually thought we were Cohenim — the real thing. I was expected to grow into manhood leading other men."

He led himself through McGill, where he studied literature with Oxonian aplomb. A professor published a volume of his poetry on the University press, and Leonard Cohen became a writer. It was, he insists, "as accidental as that."

Because if he had had a choice, he would have become a revolutionary. But he approached radicalism with a bad cold, and a thorough knowledge of the Tonette. Though the Montreal Communists fascinated him with their paranoia and their certainty, he was less than embraced by his chosen confreres. "They saw me as a symbol of the decline of the enemy," he recalls. "I never had that heroic revolutionary look. There was a certain openshirted quality I could never duplicate, I always looked different, maybe because my folks owned a clothing factory."

Today, he wears poet's gray, and a soft worker's hat hangs on his closet door. He is getting old; the trousers of his cuffs are automatically rolled. He watches you jot that down in the middle of a point about politics and you wonder if he knows you plan to use it.

"I'm not a writer coming to music in the twilight of his youth," he says suddenly. You look up. He begins to discuss the rock scene, then and now. Once, he thought Elvis Presley the first American singer of genius. Once, he played a Ray Charles record till it warped in the sun. Once, he thought of himself as Bob Dylan's ancestor. "It wasn't his originality which first impressed me, but his familiarity. He was like a person out of my books, singing to the real guitar. Dylan was what I'd always meant by the poet — someone about whom the word was never used."

Until a short time ago, Leonard Cohen had never heard Dylan. He has spent much of the past seven years in a cottage on Hydra, Greece. He still returns there regularly for replenishment, the way F. Scott Fitzgerald's heroes should have gone back to the Midwest. It keeps him from making too many scenes outside himself; that seems to be the scene he can make best.

Anyhow, you fed her five MacKewan Ales
took her to your room, put the right records on,
and in an hour or two it was done.
I know all about passion and honor
but unfortunately, this had really nothing to do with either:
Oh, there was passion I'm only too sure
And even a little honor
but the important thing was to cuckold Leonard Cohen
I like that line because it's got my name in it.
- "The Cuckold's Song"

"I wrote 'Beautiful Losers' on Hydra, when I'd thought of myself as a loser, financially, morally, as a lover, and a man. I was wiped out; I didn't like my life. I vowed I would just fill the pages with black or kill myself. After the book was over, I fasted for ten days and flipped out completely. It was my wildest trip. I hallucinated for a week. They took me to a hospital in Hydra. One afternoon, the whole sky was black with storks. They alighted on all the churches and left in the morning... and I was better. Then, I decided to go to Nashville and become a song writer."

He came to New York instead, thanks to a lady who is now his manager. And here he is — slaving over the songs he calls "Eastern Country laments," trying to make them sound the way they read. Things are happening for Leonard Cohen. 'Suzanne,' his best known lyric, made the charts on a vacuous cover version by Noel Harrison. Two recent compositions appear on the latest Judy Collins album. And Buffy Sainte Marie will include selections from Beautiful Losers on her next LP. Sometimes the two visit Saint Patrick's, where there is a bas relief of St. Catherine on one of the Cathedral doors. Buffy puts daisies in the statue's hair. "She sees the suffering in Catherine," he explains. "She feels the thumping on the sky."

If his forthcoming album is a good one, Leonard Cohen may well become one of history's odder choices for pop stardom. But the men we deem to worship are never ordinary; that is the one passion they must guard against. If the time is ripe for a guru with a cold in the ego, Leonard Cohen's modest agony will stand him in good stead.

"My songs are strangely romantic," he admits, "but so are the kids. I somehow feel that I have always waited for this generation." He pulls out a letter from a young girl who wonders over his unremitting despair. He frightens her because she senses that he has achieved an understanding of life, but he is sad despite it. She prays that the comprehension she seeks will not bring her such misery. She prays for him, and for herself, that he is really blind. And she ends by calling Leonard Cohen a "beautiful creep."

Real tears form in the corners of his eyes, but modestly, they do not flow. He sighs for real. "That's what I am — a beautiful creep." He excuses himself and you grab for the letter when he is gone. That too is real.

Beautiful creep! You can't help hearing him in the toilet; he pisses in quick panting spurts. You want to put him to bed with hot milk and butter, turn up the vaporizer, and kiss him good night.

And you want to travel with him
And you want to travel blind
And you think maybe you'll trust him
For he's touched your perfect body with his mind.
- "Suzanne"

Richard Goldstein, Village Voice, The Beautiful Creep, 28 December 1967
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Re: O/T Leonard Cohen has passed away..........
Posted by: rebelrebel ()
Date: November 11, 2016 14:14

Beautiful man, beautiful poetry, beautiful music. I feel so very sad but I think he was ready for this day.

Re: O/T Leonard Cohen has passed away..........
Posted by: matxil ()
Date: November 11, 2016 15:06

I don't know his music very well (I know I should) but I "Always" loved this song:

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Re: O/T Leonard Cohen has passed away..........
Posted by: SomeTorontoGirl ()
Date: November 11, 2016 15:19

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Appropriate for Veterans Day (and the other international equivalents), Leonard Cohen reads In Flanders Field

video: [www.youtube.com]

Thank you - I had never heard that. Now I will never let a Remembrance Day pass without listening to it, likely weeping.


Re: O/T Leonard Cohen has passed away..........
Posted by: SomeTorontoGirl ()
Date: November 11, 2016 16:03


Re: O/T Leonard Cohen has passed away..........
Date: November 11, 2016 16:18

In the past I was never a big fan of Leonard, but some 4 years ago I saw him live -open air- in Amsterdam. He was amazing, and I changed my mind. RIP Leonard Cohen.

Re: O/T Leonard Cohen has passed away..........
Posted by: keefriff99 ()
Date: November 11, 2016 16:28

This year has been a complete and utter atrocity on every level imaginable.

Re: O/T Leonard Cohen has passed away..........
Posted by: roryg ()
Date: November 11, 2016 16:51

I talked my wife into seeing one of his '08 Dublin shows. She was mesmerized. We enjoyed two more of his shows (Chi. and Milw.) which were also incredible experiences. Then he leaves us with the gift of You Want It Darker. Thank you Leonard; Ní bheidh/bheadh a leithéid ann arís.

Re: O/T Leonard Cohen has passed away..........
Posted by: Kurt ()
Date: November 11, 2016 17:11

RIP

So fortunate to have seen him in concert four years ago.

Re: O/T Leonard Cohen has passed away..........
Posted by: Milan ()
Date: November 11, 2016 17:20

I thank God on my knees that I got to see Len in Belgrade 2009... 210 minutes, my longest concert ever.


Re: O/T Leonard Cohen has passed away..........
Posted by: Silver Dagger ()
Date: November 11, 2016 17:26

An artist with an immense grasp of poetry and the English language. We are lucky to have been born in his lifetime. RIP Leonard Cohen and safe journey on your way to the stars.

Re: O/T Leonard Cohen has passed away..........
Posted by: 68to72 ()
Date: November 11, 2016 18:00

Very sad news. RIP Leonard Cohen

What a drag it is gettin' old

Re: O/T Leonard Cohen has passed away..........
Posted by: runaway ()
Date: November 11, 2016 18:52

RIP Leonard Cohen - The Man with a great voice

Re: O/T Leonard Cohen has passed away..........
Posted by: MononoM ()
Date: November 11, 2016 19:27

very sad to hear..

R.I.P. Leonard Cohen

Life's just a cocktail party on the street

Re: O/T Leonard Cohen has passed away..........
Posted by: stanlove ()
Date: November 11, 2016 20:22

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This year has been a complete and utter atrocity on every level imaginable.

What are the other things you are talking about?



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Re: O/T Leonard Cohen has passed away..........
Posted by: Aquamarine ()
Date: November 12, 2016 01:30

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This year has been a complete and utter atrocity on every level imaginable.

What are the other things you are talking about?

You didn't notice that more than a few other people beloved by many of us died this year?!

Re: O/T Leonard Cohen has passed away..........
Posted by: NICOS ()
Date: November 12, 2016 03:23

The list is way longer but these I know.................


• Natalie Cole*, R&B singer and daughter of music legend Nat "King" Cole, died New Year's Eve at age 65 from heart failure caused by lung disease.
• Otis Clay, soul singer and Blues Music Hall of Famer best known for 1967's "That's How It Is (When You're In Love)," died Jan. 8 at 73.
• David Bowie died Jan. 10, two days after his 69th birthday, after an 18-month secret battle with cancer. The music legend was well-known for his fashion, movie roles, Ziggy Stardust and hit songs like "Space Oddity," "Fame" and "Let's Dance."
• Dale "Buffin" Griffin, drummer and co-founder for Mott the Hoople, died at 67 on Jan. 17 after a decade-long battle with Alzheimer's disease.
• Clarence Reid, better known as funk/R&B singer Blowfly, died Jan. 17 at 76. He wrote and produced tracks for artists like Sam & Dave and KC & the Sunshine Band, and his often R-rated solo songs were sampled by rappers like Snoop Dogg and Jurassic 5.
• Glenn Frey, The Eagles guitarist and co-founder, died at 67 on Jan. 18. Frey co-wrote hits like "Hotel California" with Don Henley.
• Paul Kantner, Jefferson Airplane co-founder and guitarist, died at 74 on Jan. 28.
• Maurice White, a founding member of disco-funk group Earth, Wind & Fire, died Feb. 3 at 74.
• George Martin, the "Fifth Beatle" best known as a producer for The Beatles, died March 8 at 90.
• Keith Emerson, founder and keyboardist of the progressive-rock band Emerson, Lake and Palmer, died March 11 at 71.
• Frank Sinatra Jr., singer and son of Ol' Blue Eyes, died March 16 of cardiac arrest at 72.
• Merle Haggard, country music legend who had more than 30 No. 1 hits, died April 6 on his 79th birthday.
• Prince, music legend behind hits "Purple Rain," "When Doves Cry," "Batdance," "1999," "Kiss" and others, died April 21 at 57.
• Muhammad Ali, the boxing legend born Cassius Clay, died June 3 at 74 after a long battle with Parksinson's disease.
• Scotty Moore, pioneering rock guitarist for Elvis Presley, died June 28 at his home. He was 84.
• Toots Thielemans, jazz harmonica legend heard on 'Sesame Street' theme, died Aug. 22 at 94.
• Gene Wilder, comedy legend who starred in classic movies like "Young Frankenstein" and "Willy Wonka & the Chocolate Factory," died Aug. 28 at age 83.
• Bobby Vee, '60s teen idol who replaced Buddy Holly and helped Bob Dylan get his start, died Oct. 24 after a battle with Alzheimer's disease at 73.
• Leonard Cohen, singer-songwriter behind 'Hallelujah,' died Nov. 7 at 82.

*Natalie Cole technically died in 2015, but her death was announced Jan. 1.

__________________________

Re: RIP Leonard Cohen
Posted by: Boognish ()
Date: November 12, 2016 04:26

I know many of you aren't hip hop fans, but Malik Izaak Taylor aka Phife Dawg from A Tribe Called Quest should definitely be included in that list of artists to memorialize. He was an important figure and a huge loss.

Re: RIP Leonard Cohen
Posted by: Aquamarine ()
Date: November 12, 2016 04:37

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I know many of you aren't hip hop fans, but Malik Izaak Taylor aka Phife Dawg from A Tribe Called Quest should definitely be included in that list of artists to memorialize. He was an important figure and a huge loss.

Was just about to add him. Timely as ATCQ's last album (which he appears on) came out today, and is excellent.

Re: O/T Leonard Cohen has passed away..........
Posted by: hopkins ()
Date: November 12, 2016 05:50

The birds they sang
at the break of day
Start again
I heard them say
Don't dwell on what
has passed away
or what is yet to be.
Ah the wars they will
be fought again
The holy dove
She will be caught again
bought and sold
and bought again
the dove is never free.

Ring the bells that still can ring
Forget your perfect offering
There is a crack in everything
That's how the light gets in.

We asked for signs
the signs were sent:
the birth betrayed
the marriage spent
Yeah the widowhood
of every government --
signs for all to see.

I can't run no more
with that lawless crowd
while the killers in high places
say their prayers out loud.
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
a thundercloud
and they're going to hear from me.

Ring the bells that still can ring ...

You can add up the parts
but you won't have the sum
You can strike up the march,
there is no drum
Every heart, every heart
to love will come
but like a refugee.

Ring the bells that still can ring
Forget your perfect offering
There is a crack, a crack in everything
That's how the light gets in.
That's how the light gets in....


Leonard Cohen

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