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BeforeTheyMakeMeRun
Not necessarily. If they choose not to release it, then I'd say you should expect to see the marketplaces flooded with independent record labels releasing their editions of this tape. I don't see the Stones releasing this simply because there isn't enough material to warrant box sets and jacked up prices. Also, if I understand their contracts correctly, they wouldn't receive a full check for songwriting- those songs are either covers or belong to ABKCo.
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BeforeTheyMakeMeRun
Not necessarily. If they choose not to release it, then I'd say you should expect to see the marketplaces flooded with independent record labels releasing their editions of this tape. I don't see the Stones releasing this simply because there isn't enough material to warrant box sets and jacked up prices. Also, if I understand their contracts correctly, they wouldn't receive a full check for songwriting- those songs are either covers or belong to ABKCo.
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The Worst.
Blueranger, I don't understand what you're aiming at. What exactly are you referring to that supposedly happened between Stones and ABCKO 30 years ago that changed their relations?
As far as I know (from reading books released in the last 30 years), ABCKO still owns the rights to all pre-1970 recordings. (The only exception seems to be the Muscle Shoals recordings that ended up on Sticky Fingers, but that's another story.) How would you otherwise explain that no compilations before 2002 contained songs from before AND after 1970? (except Stripped, you might argue, but those songs were re-recorded and didn't include the originals).
ABCKO/DECCA vs. The Rolling Stones Records had a rivalry going on for decades. Metarmorphosis and Made in the Shade were released on THE SAME DAY in June 1975. When The Rolling Stones Records released Time Waits for No One, ABCKO/DECCA released Solid Rock. When ABCKO/DECCA released Slow Rollers, The Rolling Stones released Sucking in the Seventies. ABCKO/DECCA released The Singles Collection, and The Rolling Stones followed up with Jump Back. And so forth.
Forty Licks was the first ever compilation that compiled pre and post ABCKO recordings. Still, the first disc (counting as an individual disc in the sales numbers) only had pre-1970 ABCKO owned recordings (and interesting enough, included Wild Horses from Muscle Shoals), whilst the second disc was only containing post 1970 songs. This was most certainly a deal done with ABCKO.
The same argument can be used to explain why two seperate box sets were made when all studio albums were re-released on vinyl in 2010 - one for the ABCKO years and one for the rest.
Another example that ABCKO was still alive in recent years, is that infamous lawsuit about Bitter Sweet Symphony in 2000.
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Deltics
Both ABKCO and the Stones are well aware of the situation regarding out of copyright recordings and it would appear that they're really not bothered about it.
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The Worst.
"It's simply not the case that ABKCO can grab any unreleased pre-1971 recordings and release them without the band's agreement."
Yes, that actually is the case. While Jagger/Richards received royalties, how much money do you think Bill and Charlie got from Milestones, Solid Rock, Stone Age etc.? Let me use one recent example: If ABCKO and Stones collaborate on every release and split the money, why on earth aren't the mono box sets advertised for and made available for sale on rollingstones.com?
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The Worst.
As far as I know ABCKO still owns the rights to all pre-1970 recordings. (The only exception seems to be the Muscle Shoals recordings that ended up on Sticky Fingers, but that's another story.)
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The Worst.
As far as I know ABCKO still owns the rights to all pre-1970 recordings. (The only exception seems to be the Muscle Shoals recordings that ended up on Sticky Fingers, but that's another story.)
Is it because the Stones did the session "on the sly" having no permit to record on the US soil?
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The Worst.
As far as I know ABCKO still owns the rights to all pre-1970 recordings. (The only exception seems to be the Muscle Shoals recordings that ended up on Sticky Fingers, but that's another story.)
Is it because the Stones did the session "on the sly" having no permit to record on the US soil?
ABKCO own them as well, that's why they could use them on Hot Rocks.
They could probably have also used "You Gotta Move" if they wanted to.
They also own the publishing for all of Sticky Fingers (except YGM) and quite a lot of Exile.