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RaiseTheKnife
This is nothing to be feel sad about. I don't want to see an eighty year old Mick Jagger with a weak voice and feel like ''he used to be so good''. It's better to let everything has it time. There's still plenty of relevant material in the vaults. They're still sounding decent but I would rather see them retire than see them become a exhibition act like Chuck Berry.
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I have said it again and again since 2012... You need to go to a Stones show NOW if you want to see them live. Don't wait until later. May be there will be no more later.
Several sources do say this was the last time they played live in North America. May be. May be not.
May be they will do a few shows in Europe next year. May be they want to do something in Africa and India. May be. May be not.
The great shows The Rolling Stones have been performing over the years since 2012 and all the way up to now prove the fact that they are still relevant, but please do not take their live shows for granted.
Yes, star crossed in pleasure the stream flows on by
Yes, as we're sated in leisure, we watch it fly
And time waits for no one, and it won't wait for me
And time waits for no one, and it won't wait for me
And it all ended with a great Mick Taylor solo. That would be a worthy end for the Rolling Stones.
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Somebody else used the phrase, and it's one that's gone through my head recently, if Gillette (down the road from me) in front of a few hundred millionaires, while not rescheduling Vegas #1 was it: This is the way the world ends, not with a bang but a whimper.
Folks can, and will, stick up for the way things were handled and the circumstances etc. But for me - I lost a LOT of respect for the band that I've loved with all my heart since I was 5 years old over the past couple of weeks.
Funny.
I actually gained respect for them.
Specifically Mick. Was at the rail during DT2 and saw/heard him struggling.
And Vegas one essentially was rescheduled (plenty of seats available for it)
It was called.. Vegas 2 (Oct. 22nd).
Cheers.
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Surely you're not saying that everyone who had tickets for the 19th (including VIP tix) would have been able to get their same seats for the 22nd?
To call the 22nd essentially the rescheduled show is a bit of a stretch. Sure people could have gone had they chose to, but the 19th wasn't officially cancelled until after the 22nd.
Many may have been holding out for a true rescheduled show rather than exchanging their prime tickets for something less.
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Somebody else used the phrase, and it's one that's gone through my head recently, if Gillette (down the road from me) in front of a few hundred millionaires, while not rescheduling Vegas #1 was it: This is the way the world ends, not with a bang but a whimper.
Folks can, and will, stick up for the way things were handled and the circumstances etc. But for me - I lost a LOT of respect for the band that I've loved with all my heart since I was 5 years old over the past couple of weeks.
Funny.
I actually gained respect for them.
Specifically Mick. Was at the rail during DT2 and saw/heard him struggling.
And Vegas one essentially was rescheduled (plenty of seats available for it)
It was called.. Vegas 2 (Oct. 22nd).
Cheers.
Surely you're not saying that everyone who had tickets for the 19th (including VIP tix) would have been able to get their same seats for the 22nd?
To call the 22nd essentially the rescheduled show is a bit of a stretch. Sure people could have gone had they chose to, but the 19th wasn't officially cancelled until after the 22nd.
Many may have been holding out for a true rescheduled show rather than exchanging their prime tickets for something less.
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DEmerson
Somebody else used the phrase, and it's one that's gone through my head recently, if Gillette (down the road from me) in front of a few hundred millionaires, while not rescheduling Vegas #1 was it: This is the way the world ends, not with a bang but a whimper.
Folks can, and will, stick up for the way things were handled and the circumstances etc. But for me - I lost a LOT of respect for the band that I've loved with all my heart since I was 5 years old over the past couple of weeks.
Funny.
I actually gained respect for them.
Specifically Mick. Was at the rail during DT2 and saw/heard him struggling.
And Vegas one essentially was rescheduled (plenty of seats available for it)
It was called.. Vegas 2 (Oct. 22nd).
Cheers.
Surely you're not saying that everyone who had tickets for the 19th (including VIP tix) would have been able to get their same seats for the 22nd?
To call the 22nd essentially the rescheduled show is a bit of a stretch. Sure people could have gone had they chose to, but the 19th wasn't officially cancelled until after the 22nd.
Many may have been holding out for a true rescheduled show rather than exchanging their prime tickets for something less.
As someone who was at the Oct. 22nd show, I say it was a letdown and you're lucky if you were refunded. It was the first time it felt I was watching them 'contractually fulfill an obligation'. Mick was not up for it. It would have been better to postpone both.
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bitusa2012
There is a posting on the Fan Wall in the Rolling Stones App by the owner of a well known bar, that Chuck Leavell was on the radio in Melbourne, don't know why, and said that the Stones will play in Australia in 2018
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I have been following The Rolling Stones close since 1971. Over the years there have been times I have spend more time on Stones than on family and friends. That is still the situation. What I do know is that they will not tour forever. I talk to hundreds of close friends and contacts on tours and off tours. I never say anything based on one or a few sources.
They might still do a few shows in selected places, may be even in North America, but as time go by, the touring days will be over. It is sad for many, because The Rolling Stones are part of our lives, but I just want to prepare people. Let us cross our fingers and hope Mick and Keith and Charlie and Ronnie wake up one morning and call each other and arrange for another tour, another show, another tour, another tour...
That's more like it BV. We can only live in hope, but if this is the end, Wow what a ride its been, a story more unbelievable than the wildest imagination of any fiction writer, maybe they have a few chapters left for us.
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RaiseTheKnife
This is nothing to be feel sad about. I don't want to see an eighty year old Mick Jagger with a weak voice and feel like ''he used to be so good''. It's better to let everything has it time. There's still plenty of relevant material in the vaults. They're still sounding decent but I would rather see them retire than see them become a exhibition act like Chuck Berry.
In that respect i wish they has retired last year, 2016 has seen a decline in their performances. Especially Ronnie, he was poor in SA, but the year before he was as good as ever.
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This is nothing to be feel sad about. I don't want to see an eighty year old Mick Jagger with a weak voice and feel like ''he used to be so good''. It's better to let everything has it time. There's still plenty of relevant material in the vaults. They're still sounding decent but I would rather see them retire than see them become a exhibition act like Chuck Berry.
In that respect i wish they has retired last year, 2016 has seen a decline in their performances. Especially Ronnie, he was poor in SA, but the year before he was as good as ever.
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RaiseTheKnife
This is nothing to be feel sad about. I don't want to see an eighty year old Mick Jagger with a weak voice and feel like ''he used to be so good''. It's better to let everything has it time. There's still plenty of relevant material in the vaults. They're still sounding decent but I would rather see them retire than see them become a exhibition act like Chuck Berry.
In that respect i wish they has retired last year, 2016 has seen a decline in their performances. Especially Ronnie, he was poor in SA, but the year before he was as good as ever.
I thought Ronnie sounded very good in Vegas and Indio. To my ears anyway..
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RaiseTheKnife
This is nothing to be feel sad about. I don't want to see an eighty year old Mick Jagger with a weak voice and feel like ''he used to be so good''. It's better to let everything has it time. There's still plenty of relevant material in the vaults. They're still sounding decent but I would rather see them retire than see them become a exhibition act like Chuck Berry.
In that respect i wish they has retired last year, 2016 has seen a decline in their performances. Especially Ronnie, he was poor in SA, but the year before he was as good as ever.
What show or shows did you go to on the Latin American tour?
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As BV would say (and did say), you never know. Still, it would seem odd to me that their closest friends wouldn't be at at a farewell, even a farewell to the U.S. They're secretive, but not that secretive. When they finished the Bigger Bang tour in London, that was treated as a possible farewell. On the other hand, Mick and Keith do seem very nostalgic. I think this entire "tour" was only created around the staggering offer Goldenvoice made for Desert Trip, and any talk of a "tour" around these shows was tenuous. The private events helped pay the cast and crew for lost money that could have been made doing more shows.
I agree 100% they were supposed to reschedule the first Vegas show the 19th in early November from what I heard from a good source. That said you are right they should have cancelled the 22nd too, they knew they had that private gig to play that way Jagger could of rested his voice basically another week and the private gig in Boston would of been more or less a warm up gig for the 2 show's in Vegas that could of been rescheduled for early November if there going to stop playing and they could of had 2 blow out show's the right way and rolled right into the exhibitionism. That would of been the way to go out if they plan on stopping that way they would of went out with a Bang not a Whimper. Not going out half a#$ and like a dog with it's tail between it's legs this would be a horrible way to go out not like the way they played there whole lives just my opinion.Quote
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Somebody else used the phrase, and it's one that's gone through my head recently, if Gillette (down the road from me) in front of a few hundred millionaires, while not rescheduling Vegas #1 was it: This is the way the world ends, not with a bang but a whimper.
Folks can, and will, stick up for the way things were handled and the circumstances etc. But for me - I lost a LOT of respect for the band that I've loved with all my heart since I was 5 years old over the past couple of weeks.
Funny.
I actually gained respect for them.
Specifically Mick. Was at the rail during DT2 and saw/heard him struggling.
And Vegas one essentially was rescheduled (plenty of seats available for it)
It was called.. Vegas 2 (Oct. 22nd).
Cheers.
Surely you're not saying that everyone who had tickets for the 19th (including VIP tix) would have been able to get their same seats for the 22nd?
To call the 22nd essentially the rescheduled show is a bit of a stretch. Sure people could have gone had they chose to, but the 19th wasn't officially cancelled until after the 22nd.
Many may have been holding out for a true rescheduled show rather than exchanging their prime tickets for something less.
As someone who was at the Oct. 22nd show, I say it was a letdown and you're lucky if you were refunded. It was the first time it felt I was watching them 'contractually fulfill an obligation'. Mick was not up for it. It would have been better to postpone both.
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RaiseTheKnife
This is nothing to be feel sad about. I don't want to see an eighty year old Mick Jagger with a weak voice and feel like ''he used to be so good''. It's better to let everything has it time. There's still plenty of relevant material in the vaults. They're still sounding decent but I would rather see them retire than see them become a exhibition act like Chuck Berry.
In that respect i wish they has retired last year, 2016 has seen a decline in their performances. Especially Ronnie, he was poor in SA, but the year before he was as good as ever.
I thought Ronnie sounded very good in Vegas and Indio. To my ears anyway..
He wasn't as good in South Africa as he was last year.