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Sticky Fingers [SHM-CD] [Limited Release]
The Rolling Stones

Someone knows which mastering is used on this new SHM-CD(s)

2009 disaster or 2011 flat transfer ?

I´m looking for an affordable way to get the flat transfer on CD.

Best

Sticky Fingers, Platinum SHM-CD, UICY-40011 -- Universal Music Japan says "UK original analog tape HR cutting 2011 DSD master": [translate.google.com] .

The flat-transferred UICY-40011 is also available at [www.jpc.de] .

Sticky Fingers, Deluxe Edition, SHM-CD, UICY-15382 -- Universal Music Japan says 2009 Remaster: [translate.google.com] .

No remarks of the used mastering for the new SHM-CD UICY-78085 (2-Dec-2016): [translate.google.com] .



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2016-10-28 00:15 by Irix.

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Irix
Sticky Fingers, Deluxe Edition, SHM-CD, UICY-15382

Universal Music Japan says 2009 Remaster: [translate.google.com] .

Yes that´s the Deluxe Ed. (2010 - 2CDs)
the new one is UICY-78085 (1CD)
there´s also UICY-20078 (1CD 2009 master) [www.cdjapan.co.jp]



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2016-10-28 00:14 by glimmertwin1.

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glimmertwin1

I´m looking for an affordable way to get the flat transfer on CD.

Try the UICY-40011: [www.cdjapan.co.jp] .

Your CD-Player should be able to play CD-R to play also the Platinum-SHM.

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glimmertwin1
[www.cdjapan.co.jp]

Sticky Fingers [SHM-CD] [Limited Release]
The Rolling Stones

Someone knows which mastering is used on this new SHM-CD(s)

2009 disaster or 2011 flat transfer ?

I´m looking for an affordable way to get the flat transfer on CD.

Best

Don't waste your money on fancy Japanese stuff. Just head on ebay and get old-good CBS CD.

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Irix

The flat-transferred UICY-40011 is also available at [www.jpc.de] .

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Thanks 45€ perhaps i keep my Virgin CD ...

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ironbelly

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glimmertwin1
[www.cdjapan.co.jp]

Sticky Fingers [SHM-CD] [Limited Release]
The Rolling Stones

Someone knows which mastering is used on this new SHM-CD(s)

2009 disaster or 2011 flat transfer ?

I´m looking for an affordable way to get the flat transfer on CD.

Best

Don't waste your money on fancy Japanese stuff. Just head on ebay and get old-good CBS CD.

I like fancy Japanese stuff

But regarding compression you´re probably right.

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ironbelly

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glimmertwin1
[www.cdjapan.co.jp]

Sticky Fingers [SHM-CD] [Limited Release]
The Rolling Stones

Someone knows which mastering is used on this new SHM-CD(s)

2009 disaster or 2011 flat transfer ?

I´m looking for an affordable way to get the flat transfer on CD.

Best

Don't waste your money on fancy Japanese stuff. Just head on ebay and get old-good CBS CD.

I agree. They're actually quite similar sound wise. The real improvement is with the SACD version.

Regarding your question, glimmertwin1, I think this new reissue series is from the 2009 remasters because every album is included from Sticky fingers to Shine A Light. The flat transfers from 2011 included albums from SF to Dirty Work.

[www.discogs.com]

Some kind of info except mastering.

To be honest, I think I got enough copies of SF now. Time to put the foot down!



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2016-12-06 01:07 by DandelionPowderman.

Seems to me it's cheaper this time around. Maybe it's a nice price issue?

For what it's worth, I've bought 4 Japanese SHMs to date at the recommendation of a friend who loves them. They seem to vary in quality. The 1st I got was David Bowie's Aladdin Sane which sounds great. Jimi Hendrix Electric Ladyland sounds stunning! I did get a Sticky Fingers Deluxe set, and it sounds really good, but not sure I hear much difference. And The Who Who's Next is the one that's a bit disappointing - I was hoping it would blow me away, but while it sounds good, it's not like OMG this sounds amazing.

Keep in mind, SHM has nothing to do with the mastering of the album - it has to do with the Super High Material the discs are made of, which 'supposedly' equate to better sound. There's lots of discussions out there as to the merits of SHM (and SACD) (or lack thereof!). The SHMs which are now out of print can become pricey - $50 and (way) up in many cases, so they can be collectible. And they are nice 'looking' packages in general. Some may see them as 'novelties.' So overall (and I'm not a techie or audiophile, but I have a decent sound system and know what sounds good 'to my ears'). IMO it's worth grabbing one or two to decide for yourself if you hear the difference, especially if you can grab them for not huge money (say, $20/$30).

Regarding SHM-CD, to me it always comes down to what mastering was used in the first place.

Stones SHM-CD are either made from the 2009 remasters (loud and compressed beyond belief) or the 2011 remasters (flat transfers from the original master tapes with no additional tweaks). The latter were first released on SACD and later on SHM-CD.

As I don't think an already bloated remaster can be improved by a "super high material" (SHM) of any sort, when buying a SHM-CD one should first look for infos on the mastering used. Usually this kind of information can be found on the "obi" itself. Plus, in case of a SHM-CD made from a the 2011 flat remasters, if you look carefully you should find (in English) "HR (High Resolution Cutting)" written on the back of the obi.

Scan of Exile On Main St SHM-CD "obi": (important informations are within red circles)
On the right it's written "2011 DSD Master", which clearly means this SHM-CD is made from the 2011 remaster.





Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2016-12-06 02:56 by kowalski.

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From the information
1. Suteyuudo-and-key - Hod
2. Goodbye Girl
3. High Heel Sneakers
High Heel Sneakers
4. Tell Me Baby
5. Meet Me In The Bottom
6. Mercy Mercy
7. Reelin and Rockin
8. key To The Highway To The Highway key
9. The last time
The last time *
10. Little Red Rooster
Little Red Rooster *
11. Everybody needs Somebody to- Love
Everybody Needs Somebody To Love *
12. Satisfaction * Satisfaction
* Bonus Track


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1. knot Fade Away
Not Fade Away
2. Go Home Girl
Go Home Girl
3. That Girl Birongusu-in-YESTERDAY
My Only Girl Aka That Girl Belongs In Yesterday
4. IT Should Be You Should Be You It
5. Leave Me alone
Leave Me alone
6. Andrew's Blues
Andrew'S Blues
7. stick on Your Mind
Some Thing Just stick on Your Mind
8. try A Little Harder
try A Harder Little
9. Tell Me
Tell Me
10. Blue Turns-to-gray
Blue Turns To Grey
11. WE WERE Falling in Love
We Were Falling in Love
12. Blues jam
Blues jam
during 13. is as goes by
as Time goes By

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