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open-gDon also said "Both Keith and Mick have some great new songs," perhaps not enough, what do I know.Quote
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It used to be when the 'hit the wall' they would keep playing, try the song a different way, go to a different song. We've all heard the story of Keith playing the Tumbling Dice chord for 12 straight hours.
I think Don is hinting that it might be over for new music.
I do like the approach of picking up whatever music is floating in the air and everyone feels comfortable with.
putting your head through the wall requires much more power and is usually painful.and what if there's another concrete wall behind the first?
the easiness of this production might colour off on their next one.
hope so anyway.
Agreed on pretty much your whole statement - not so sure about DB; but I'd add 'Infamy', and the one about G.BushQuote
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Nobody needs 15 weak, but new tracks like the four on Forty Licks or the two on Grrr. A Bigger Bang was something else though, but also ruined by the 3, 4 weak tracks.
Which do you consider the weak tracks off ABB, Monsoon?
Biggest Mistake, She Saw Me Coming, Dangerous Beauty. Streets Of Love is both good and bad.
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Palace Revolution 2000Agreed on pretty much your whole statement - not so sure about DB; but I'd add 'Infamy', and the one about G.BushQuote
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Nobody needs 15 weak, but new tracks like the four on Forty Licks or the two on Grrr. A Bigger Bang was something else though, but also ruined by the 3, 4 weak tracks.
Which do you consider the weak tracks off ABB, Monsoon?
Biggest Mistake, She Saw Me Coming, Dangerous Beauty. Streets Of Love is both good and bad.
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wonderboy
It used to be when the 'hit the wall' they would keep playing, try the song a different way, go to a different song. We've all heard the story of Keith playing the Tumbling Dice chord for 12 straight hours.
I think Don is hinting that it might be over for new music.
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wonderboy
It used to be when the 'hit the wall' they would keep playing, try the song a different way, go to a different song. We've all heard the story of Keith playing the Tumbling Dice chord for 12 straight hours.
I think Don is hinting that it might be over for new music.
Then you are not listening to what he was saying. He only said they hit a wall on one song they were working on and to try to get around they played a blues song. Because they enjoyed playing the little Walter song they played another and another so instead of going back to the new song after the mood change they stuck to playing blues.
I bet they were hitting a wall on every record on certain songs because that's just what happens. They probably most of the time played a blues song to get around it and get back to the song but never kept playing the covers.
It's interesting how people can make the opposite conclusion of something that is so clearly explained in the interview.
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Palace Revolution 2000Agreed on pretty much your whole statement - not so sure about DB; but I'd add 'Infamy', and the one about G.BushQuote
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Nobody needs 15 weak, but new tracks like the four on Forty Licks or the two on Grrr. A Bigger Bang was something else though, but also ruined by the 3, 4 weak tracks.
Which do you consider the weak tracks off ABB, Monsoon?
Biggest Mistake, She Saw Me Coming, Dangerous Beauty. Streets Of Love is both good and bad.
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wonderboy
It used to be when the 'hit the wall' they would keep playing, try the song a different way, go to a different song. We've all heard the story of Keith playing the Tumbling Dice chord for 12 straight hours.
I think Don is hinting that it might be over for new music.
Then you are not listening to what he was saying. He only said they hit a wall on one song they were working on and to try to get around they played a blues song. Because they enjoyed playing the little Walter song they played another and another so instead of going back to the new song after the mood change they stuck to playing blues.
I bet they were hitting a wall on every record on certain songs because that's just what happens. They probably most of the time played a blues song to get around it and get back to the song but never kept playing the covers.
It's interesting how people can make the opposite conclusion of something that is so clearly explained in the interview.
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Palace Revolution 2000Agreed on pretty much your whole statement - not so sure about DB; but I'd add 'Infamy', and the one about G.BushQuote
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Nobody needs 15 weak, but new tracks like the four on Forty Licks or the two on Grrr. A Bigger Bang was something else though, but also ruined by the 3, 4 weak tracks.
Which do you consider the weak tracks off ABB, Monsoon?
Biggest Mistake, She Saw Me Coming, Dangerous Beauty. Streets Of Love is both good and bad.
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I hope the new album will sound better, cause the Spotify mix is horrible, too.
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Nobody needs 15 weak, but new tracks like the four on Forty Licks or the two on Grrr. A Bigger Bang was something else though, but also ruined by the 3, 4 weak tracks.
Which do you consider the weak tracks off ABB, Monsoon?
Biggest Mistake, She Saw Me Coming, Dangerous Beauty. Streets Of Love is both good and bad.
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The thread title is out of context with the quote.
"Around day three we just hit a wall... and Keith suggested that, to cleanse the creative palette, we played Blue and Lonesome, the Little Walter song.
Well, there's something important missing in that quote, if I listened carefully what Don said:
Around day three we just hit a wall ON ONE SONG...
I think, that's crucial, right?
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Palace Revolution 2000Agreed on pretty much your whole statement - not so sure about DB; but I'd add 'Infamy', and the one about G.BushQuote
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Nobody needs 15 weak, but new tracks like the four on Forty Licks or the two on Grrr. A Bigger Bang was something else though, but also ruined by the 3, 4 weak tracks.
Which do you consider the weak tracks off ABB, Monsoon?
Biggest Mistake, She Saw Me Coming, Dangerous Beauty. Streets Of Love is both good and bad.
Keith said he thought Sweet Neocon was about Condoleezza Rice.
Not to belabor the point... But Steel Wheels and ABB don't have any fans. We all seem to like a few songs from each of those albums, but overall they're not very good. Different Stones fans have different preferences.
Voodoo Lounge and Bridges To Babylon were very well recorded albums. Those two albums do have their own cult-followings within the realm of Stones fandom. Some people really like Voodoo Lounge. I don't care for it because it's not my thing. However, I like most of Bridges To Babylon as an album.
The two big stinkers, in the entire Stones catalogue, are Steel Wheels and A Bigger Bang -- that's a fact -- yup, those were the only two digitally recorded Stones albums.
Blue & Lonesome should be great because they recorded it the right way.
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Palace Revolution 2000Agreed on pretty much your whole statement - not so sure about DB; but I'd add 'Infamy', and the one about G.BushQuote
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Nobody needs 15 weak, but new tracks like the four on Forty Licks or the two on Grrr. A Bigger Bang was something else though, but also ruined by the 3, 4 weak tracks.
Which do you consider the weak tracks off ABB, Monsoon?
Biggest Mistake, She Saw Me Coming, Dangerous Beauty. Streets Of Love is both good and bad.
Keith said he thought Sweet Neocon was about Condoleezza Rice.
Not to belabor the point... But Steel Wheels and ABB don't have any fans. We all seem to like a few songs from each of those albums, but overall they're not very good. Different Stones fans have different preferences.
Voodoo Lounge and Bridges To Babylon were very well recorded albums. Those two albums do have their own cult-followings within the realm of Stones fandom. Some people really like Voodoo Lounge. I don't care for it because it's not my thing. However, I like most of Bridges To Babylon as an album.
The two big stinkers, in the entire Stones catalogue, are Steel Wheels and A Bigger Bang -- that's a fact -- yup, those were the only two digitally recorded Stones albums.
Blue & Lonesome should be great because they recorded it the right way.
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Palace Revolution 2000Agreed on pretty much your whole statement - not so sure about DB; but I'd add 'Infamy', and the one about G.BushQuote
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Nobody needs 15 weak, but new tracks like the four on Forty Licks or the two on Grrr. A Bigger Bang was something else though, but also ruined by the 3, 4 weak tracks.
Which do you consider the weak tracks off ABB, Monsoon?
Biggest Mistake, She Saw Me Coming, Dangerous Beauty. Streets Of Love is both good and bad.
Keith said he thought Sweet Neocon was about Condoleezza Rice.
Not to belabor the point... But Steel Wheels and ABB don't have any fans. We all seem to like a few songs from each of those albums, but overall they're not very good. Different Stones fans have different preferences.
Voodoo Lounge and Bridges To Babylon were very well recorded albums. Those two albums do have their own cult-followings within the realm of Stones fandom. Some people really like Voodoo Lounge. I don't care for it because it's not my thing. However, I like most of Bridges To Babylon as an album.
The two big stinkers, in the entire Stones catalogue, are Steel Wheels and A Bigger Bang -- that's a fact -- yup, those were the only two digitally recorded Stones albums.
Blue & Lonesome should be great because they recorded it the right way.
That's very perceptive Socrates ( haha, I like saying that), re. those late era albums. IAW you on VL and B2B. I like B2B a lot, and do not care for VL too much. And ABB just comes off as way too rushed, and Jagger-in-business-mode-like. Plus it is just too long.
But re Sw; I used to be able to say that Steel Wheels was my least favorite Stones album. What made all the difference in the world for me, was to switch over to the rough version of the album. The booted tracks that came out. "Trainig Wheels", and even one boot before that. The songs took on a whole new life.
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Palace Revolution 2000Agreed on pretty much your whole statement - not so sure about DB; but I'd add 'Infamy', and the one about G.BushQuote
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Nobody needs 15 weak, but new tracks like the four on Forty Licks or the two on Grrr. A Bigger Bang was something else though, but also ruined by the 3, 4 weak tracks.
Which do you consider the weak tracks off ABB, Monsoon?
Biggest Mistake, She Saw Me Coming, Dangerous Beauty. Streets Of Love is both good and bad.
Keith said he thought Sweet Neocon was about Condoleezza Rice.
Not to belabor the point... But Steel Wheels and ABB don't have any fans. We all seem to like a few songs from each of those albums, but overall they're not very good. Different Stones fans have different preferences.
Voodoo Lounge and Bridges To Babylon were very well recorded albums. Those two albums do have their own cult-followings within the realm of Stones fandom. Some people really like Voodoo Lounge. I don't care for it because it's not my thing. However, I like most of Bridges To Babylon as an album.
The two big stinkers, in the entire Stones catalogue, are Steel Wheels and A Bigger Bang -- that's a fact -- yup, those were the only two digitally recorded Stones albums.
Blue & Lonesome should be great because they recorded it the right way.
That's very perceptive Socrates ( haha, I like saying that), re. those late era albums. IAW you on VL and B2B. I like B2B a lot, and do not care for VL too much. And ABB just comes off as way too rushed, and Jagger-in-business-mode-like. Plus it is just too long.
But re Sw; I used to be able to say that Steel Wheels was my least favorite Stones album. What made all the difference in the world for me, was to switch over to the rough version of the album. The booted tracks that came out. "Trainig Wheels", and even one boot before that. The songs took on a whole new life.
Yes - although I own a copy of the official Steel Wheels, it's the Monitor Mixes that I listen to and enjoy.
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Keith said he thought Sweet Neocon was about Condoleezza Rice.
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The two big stinkers, in the entire Stones catalogue, are Steel Wheels and A Bigger Bang -- that's a fact -- yup, those were the only two digitally recorded Stones albums.
Blue & Lonesome should be great because they recorded it the right way.
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open-gDon also said "Both Keith and Mick have some great new songs," perhaps not enough, what do I know.Quote
wonderboy
It used to be when the 'hit the wall' they would keep playing, try the song a different way, go to a different song. We've all heard the story of Keith playing the Tumbling Dice chord for 12 straight hours.
I think Don is hinting that it might be over for new music.
I do like the approach of picking up whatever music is floating in the air and everyone feels comfortable with.
putting your head through the wall requires much more power and is usually painful.and what if there's another concrete wall behind the first?
the easiness of this production might colour off on their next one.
hope so anyway.
Whatever Don Was says, must be ok'ed by his bosses beforehand, and is nothing more than made-up promo chat for the blues album. Clapton there in the next studio just a coincidence? Nonsense, it was planned beforehand. The story that Clapton just came over from the close-by studio, listened, got enthusiastic and joined in just sounds better, even romantic for the general public.
It's the same with the story that the Stones were in the studio trying to create new music "on the spot" when on day 3, they "hit a wall" and started playing the blues. They just don't go into the studio without careful planning and pre-preduction these days, in order to save time (and money, of course). So even if they, the professionals they really are, "hit the wall" with one song, they simply try a different one. Happened before, happens with all kinds of artists all over the world, so no big deal really. It's just a better story next year when the new album of original stuff comes out to say that "the blues brought us back on track". I know this showbusiness long enough to not take the usual promo talk word for word.
I think Was' statement is also a clever move to counter possible media reaction like: "Oh, just blues covers on the new album? The Stones must have run out of original ideas!". Just stating the obvious beforehand is the best defense I can think of!
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I hope the new album will sound better, cause the Spotify mix is horrible, too.
Just Your Fool sounds like only Keith is playing guitar on it on Spotify. It's a weird mix.