Tell Me :
Talk
For the most part, agreed.
For the final part - hoping you're wrong.
There's still some life left in those old Stones!
_____________________________________________________________
Rip this joint, gonna save your soul, round and round and round we go......
If that was a point, the catalogue of many great artists would be pointless. Nina Simone comes to my mind now for example. Of course the Stones are not "interpreters" but the Stones have a unique sound, a sound that in more than 50 years has made them what they are and a sonic symbol of rock and roll for generations. "This" sound, though not at its 1970 peak for sure, is still all over this record, and so it is beyond my grasp to read on a Rolling Stones fan site that it is a bit pointless because most of it has been done by others. Their sound is not pointless a bit to my ears, I must admit.
then I would love also to be presented with all those other valuable great covers of All Of Your Love or Blue & Lonesome or I gotta go or Hoodoo Blues or...
But of course in the lack of them then there would still remain the unbeatable "originals" to keep the Stones ones pointless..
All I am saying make it a competitor to Exile or Somegirls? NO for sure. And in the end I could agree with your comment "a job well done" but I would probably say "Job well done Stones!"
cheeeeeeers
Edited 4 time(s). Last edit at 2016-12-28 18:47 by maumau.
HA HA! You got that right! Frank Sinatra anyone?
HiMPJ, i believe it was you, who said the Blue n lonesome recordings were filmed. is this for general release, or for the band themselves? do you know more about it.
thanks
jeroen
You be correct, it's fantastic. Some have made up their minds not like it and seem to be inventing reasons ... but hey, if they aren't listening then its their loss. There's loads of brilliant stuff on this album.
Keep the momentum going.......
We all would.
However, many didn't seem to be on board with a blues covers album beforehand (not me, btw, I was confident that behind Charlie, Ronnie & Keith that it would be great) but seeing as it passed most of our expectations, including my own, I would be perfectly happy with a B&L part 2!!
Not for general release, but clips were used for Hate To See You Go. A few people on here can thank Kristen Stewart for doing the Ride Em On Down video, as that footage will likely hit the cutting floor now.
I'm no longer sure about a new album of originals...unfortunately.
Don't give into the dark side of the force KRiffhard....
Thank you kindly.
Yep. They both want to do a new Stones album. I think a few clustered European tour dates for money makes sense as part of that plan. I suspect though the hope would be to release the album for next Christmas.
We're not in 1971 anymore, they are not going to spend more than 2-3 weeks on the studio, Mick won't do it, even B&L had the weekend off (Friday Dec. 11 - Monday/Tuesday Dec. 14-15), Keith's latest album was recorded during 3 YEARS, and he only worked with his pal Steve Jordan, sometimes 2-3 days for month.
I hear ya georgelicks...I was just venting out some frustration.
If I were to be totally honest, I wouldnt expect anything more from them.
B&L II would be nice, but Mick doesn't want to do it. Mick wants his demos as Stones songs, but Keith says no way.
As has been mentioned, B&L would be a nice bookend to their recording career, and I could live with that.
Never say never though...
_____________________________________________________________
Rip this joint, gonna save your soul, round and round and round we go......
Source?
Never mind.. found it.
[upload.wikimedia.org]
If you would have spent 30 more seconds reading this page of this thread, you would have found the correct source as mpj200 who stated:
"Mick doesn't want to do another blues bit. He wants to record his songs. Keith wants to write with Mick".
I was simply echoing the sentiment...
ps - you need to find some new material as your sarcasm has become stale.
_____________________________________________________________
Rip this joint, gonna save your soul, round and round and round we go......
Maybe I should apologize for my previous post. Last year I was very enthusiastic about Crosseyed Heart and I was often surprised how people felt the need to continuously shoot it down so much. I don't want to make the same mistake myself now with B&L. So I promise I won't say more about it.
I am glad so many people enjoy the album so much and maumau made some interesting points in writing why he does.
I hope I am excused, however, to remark that I absolutely detest Frank Sinatra (his singing, his music, his style, etc) and I haven't gone as sour as to compare the Stones to him and I hope it will never come to that.
Talk about your favorite band.
For information about how to use this forum please check out forum help and policies.
Re: The Rolling Stones new blues album "Blue & Lonesome" due out Dec 2
Posted by:
Hairball
()
Date: December 27, 2016 19:14
Quote
matxil
Just got my copy of B&L for christmas. It's as I expected: a job well done. Nothing less, nothing more. Little Rain is great. The rest is just a blues album well done. At this point in their career, that's the best we can get: good but not great, and a bit pointless given that most of the album has been done already by others at least as well.
For the Stones, doing an album of originals now would very likely be worse, while doing more cover albums would be plain silly. Maybe if they would just mess around, do some sketchy jams, have some fun, nothing polished it might get interesting, but I know that's not going to happen. So I am hoping this it: a decent finale to a band that was once truelly great and was able to say goodbye with a decent blues album.
For the most part, agreed.
For the final part - hoping you're wrong.
There's still some life left in those old Stones!
_____________________________________________________________
Rip this joint, gonna save your soul, round and round and round we go......
Re: The Rolling Stones new blues album "Blue & Lonesome" due out Dec 2
Posted by:
laf848
()
Date: December 27, 2016 19:17
Blue And Lonesome is an Outstanding album, Perfect IMO. I have played this album since the day it was released.
Re: The Rolling Stones new blues album "Blue & Lonesome" due out Dec 2
Posted by:
Carnaby
()
Date: December 27, 2016 20:56
Re: The Rolling Stones new blues album "Blue & Lonesome" due out Dec 2
Posted by:
Idorh
()
Date: December 28, 2016 02:43
This morning in Goes (city in province Zeeland, Holland), the album as a reserve purchased at the music store. only 2 after they were sold out. The text on the cover was English, but rerunning on my PC were the titles in Japanese ???
Re: The Rolling Stones new blues album "Blue & Lonesome" due out Dec 2
Posted by:
GasLightStreet
()
Date: December 28, 2016 18:04
Keith starts Ride 'Em On Down.
Re: The Rolling Stones new blues album "Blue & Lonesome" due out Dec 2
Posted by:
maumau
()
Date: December 28, 2016 18:32
Quote
matxil
Just got my copy of B&L for christmas. It's as I expected: a job well done. Nothing less, nothing more. Little Rain is great. The rest is just a blues album well done. At this point in their career, that's the best we can get: good but not great, and a bit pointless given that most of the album has been done already by others at least as well.
If that was a point, the catalogue of many great artists would be pointless. Nina Simone comes to my mind now for example. Of course the Stones are not "interpreters" but the Stones have a unique sound, a sound that in more than 50 years has made them what they are and a sonic symbol of rock and roll for generations. "This" sound, though not at its 1970 peak for sure, is still all over this record, and so it is beyond my grasp to read on a Rolling Stones fan site that it is a bit pointless because most of it has been done by others. Their sound is not pointless a bit to my ears, I must admit.
then I would love also to be presented with all those other valuable great covers of All Of Your Love or Blue & Lonesome or I gotta go or Hoodoo Blues or...
But of course in the lack of them then there would still remain the unbeatable "originals" to keep the Stones ones pointless..
All I am saying make it a competitor to Exile or Somegirls? NO for sure. And in the end I could agree with your comment "a job well done" but I would probably say "Job well done Stones!"
cheeeeeeers
Edited 4 time(s). Last edit at 2016-12-28 18:47 by maumau.
Re: The Rolling Stones new blues album "Blue & Lonesome" due out Dec 2
Posted by:
GasLightStreet
()
Date: December 28, 2016 18:43
Quote
maumauQuote
matxil
...just a blues album well done. At this point in their career, that's the best we can get: good but not great, and a bit pointless given that most of the album has been done already by others at least as well.
If that was a point, the catalogue of many great artists would be pointless.
HA HA! You got that right! Frank Sinatra anyone?
Re: The Rolling Stones new blues album "Blue & Lonesome" due out Dec 2
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
()
Date: December 28, 2016 19:32
Quote
maumauQuote
matxil
Just got my copy of B&L for christmas. It's as I expected: a job well done. Nothing less, nothing more. Little Rain is great. The rest is just a blues album well done. At this point in their career, that's the best we can get: good but not great, and a bit pointless given that most of the album has been done already by others at least as well.
If that was a point, the catalogue of many great artists would be pointless. Nina Simone comes to my mind now for example. Of course the Stones are not "interpreters" but the Stones have a unique sound, a sound that in more than 50 years has made them what they are and a sonic symbol of rock and roll for generations. "This" sound, though not at its 1970 peak for sure, is still all over this record, and so it is beyond my grasp to read on a Rolling Stones fan site that it is a bit pointless because most of it has been done by others. Their sound is not pointless a bit to my ears, I must admit.
then I would love also to be presented with all those other valuable great covers of All Of Your Love or Blue & Lonesome or I gotta go or Hoodoo Blues or...
But of course in the lack of them then there would still remain the unbeatable "originals" to keep the Stones ones pointless..
All I am saying make it a competitor to Exile or Somegirls? NO for sure. And in the end I could agree with your comment "a job well done" but I would probably say "Job well done Stones!"
cheeeeeeers
Re: The Rolling Stones new blues album "Blue & Lonesome" due out Dec 2
Posted by:
JadedFaded
()
Date: December 28, 2016 22:33
Blue and Lonesome is not pointless and is more than just decent. It is the Stones giving tribute to the music that is their roots. It isn't like Rod Stewart crooning "It Had to be You." The Stones and blues are a special combination. This record is a treat for fans and they must have had a blast recording it. And if it turns on any new fans to the blues, so much the better. I thank the Stones for this truly enjoyable album of great blues done Stones-style.
Re: The Rolling Stones new blues album "Blue & Lonesome" due out Dec 2
Posted by:
mpj200
()
Date: December 29, 2016 07:18
I'd love to see another album of originals. But the truth is the songs they have need work. Mick and Keith are not on the same page, and getting them all together, apart from playing shows, is quite the challenge.
Keith tried to get them in the studio last month while they were all in NY. It didn't happen.
I do hope they can work it out and come together, in concept, and on the calendar. But there is also the possibility that Blue and Lonesome could be the last Stones record ever. So enjoy it for what it is. We may or may not get another one. If not, this is a very good and fitting final album.
Fingers crossed.
Keith tried to get them in the studio last month while they were all in NY. It didn't happen.
I do hope they can work it out and come together, in concept, and on the calendar. But there is also the possibility that Blue and Lonesome could be the last Stones record ever. So enjoy it for what it is. We may or may not get another one. If not, this is a very good and fitting final album.
Fingers crossed.
Re: The Rolling Stones new blues album "Blue & Lonesome" due out Dec 2
Posted by:
runrudolph
()
Date: December 29, 2016 13:42
Quote
mpj200
I'd love to see another album of originals. But the truth is the songs they have need work. Mick and Keith are not on the same page, and getting them all together, apart from playing shows, is quite the challenge.
Keith tried to get them in the studio last month while they were all in NY. It didn't happen.
I do hope they can work it out and come together, in concept, and on the calendar. But there is also the possibility that Blue and Lonesome could be the last Stones record ever. So enjoy it for what it is. We may or may not get another one. If not, this is a very good and fitting final album.
Fingers crossed.
HiMPJ, i believe it was you, who said the Blue n lonesome recordings were filmed. is this for general release, or for the band themselves? do you know more about it.
thanks
jeroen
Re: The Rolling Stones new blues album "Blue & Lonesome" due out Dec 2
Posted by:
LeonidP
()
Date: December 29, 2016 16:33
Quote
JadedFaded
Blue and Lonesome is not pointless and is more than just decent....
You be correct, it's fantastic. Some have made up their minds not like it and seem to be inventing reasons ... but hey, if they aren't listening then its their loss. There's loads of brilliant stuff on this album.
Re: The Rolling Stones new blues album "Blue & Lonesome" due out Dec 2
Posted by:
Rip This
()
Date: December 29, 2016 17:01
the success of this record is really a tacit acknowledgement to the simple fact that they sound like the Rolling Stones...again....finally.....and how great for music, them and us....hope they build on this. the rave reviews and sales certainly suggest this.
Re: The Rolling Stones new blues album "Blue & Lonesome" due out Dec 2
Posted by:
Maindefender
()
Date: December 29, 2016 17:41
Quote
Rip This
the success of this record is really a tacit acknowledgement to the simple fact that they sound like the Rolling Stones...again....finally.....and how great for music, them and us....hope they build on this. the rave reviews and sales certainly suggest this.
Keep the momentum going.......
Re: The Rolling Stones new blues album "Blue & Lonesome" due out Dec 2
Posted by:
LeonidP
()
Date: December 29, 2016 19:12
Quote
mpj200
I'd love to see another album of originals...
We all would.
However, many didn't seem to be on board with a blues covers album beforehand (not me, btw, I was confident that behind Charlie, Ronnie & Keith that it would be great) but seeing as it passed most of our expectations, including my own, I would be perfectly happy with a B&L part 2!!
Re: The Rolling Stones new blues album "Blue & Lonesome" due out Dec 2
Posted by:
mpj200
()
Date: December 29, 2016 20:40
Quote
corriecasQuote
mpj200
I'd love to see another album of originals. But the truth is the songs they have need work. Mick and Keith are not on the same page, and getting them all together, apart from playing shows, is quite the challenge.
Keith tried to get them in the studio last month while they were all in NY. It didn't happen.
I do hope they can work it out and come together, in concept, and on the calendar. But there is also the possibility that Blue and Lonesome could be the last Stones record ever. So enjoy it for what it is. We may or may not get another one. If not, this is a very good and fitting final album.
Fingers crossed.
HiMPJ, i believe it was you, who said the Blue n lonesome recordings were filmed. is this for general release, or for the band themselves? do you know more about it.
thanks
jeroen
Not for general release, but clips were used for Hate To See You Go. A few people on here can thank Kristen Stewart for doing the Ride Em On Down video, as that footage will likely hit the cutting floor now.
Re: The Rolling Stones new blues album "Blue & Lonesome" due out Dec 2
Posted by:
KRiffhard
()
Date: December 29, 2016 21:00
Quote
mpj200
I'd love to see another album of originals. But the truth is the songs they have need work. Mick and Keith are not on the same page, and getting them all together, apart from playing shows, is quite the challenge.
Keith tried to get them in the studio last month while they were all in NY. It didn't happen.
I do hope they can work it out and come together, in concept, and on the calendar. But there is also the possibility that Blue and Lonesome could be the last Stones record ever. So enjoy it for what it is. We may or may not get another one. If not, this is a very good and fitting final album.
Fingers crossed.
I'm no longer sure about a new album of originals...unfortunately.
Re: The Rolling Stones new blues album "Blue & Lonesome" due out Dec 2
Posted by:
Maindefender
()
Date: December 29, 2016 21:35
Quote
KRiffhardQuote
mpj200
I'd love to see another album of originals. But the truth is the songs they have need work. Mick and Keith are not on the same page, and getting them all together, apart from playing shows, is quite the challenge.
Keith tried to get them in the studio last month while they were all in NY. It didn't happen.
I do hope they can work it out and come together, in concept, and on the calendar. But there is also the possibility that Blue and Lonesome could be the last Stones record ever. So enjoy it for what it is. We may or may not get another one. If not, this is a very good and fitting final album.
Fingers crossed.
I'm no longer sure about a new album of originals...unfortunately.
Don't give into the dark side of the force KRiffhard....
Re: The Rolling Stones new blues album "Blue & Lonesome" due out Dec 2
Posted by:
mpj200
()
Date: December 29, 2016 22:02
There is no doubt that the success of B&L has given the band a kick up the arse. But Mick doesn't want to do another blues bit. He wants to record his songs. Keith wants to write with Mick. Meanwhile they are looking at tour dates.
I'm just guessing, but don't be surprised if all we see is a small tour of Europe in 2017. And we should all be thankful for that and getting B&L for Christmas. I do hope I'm wrong, but not getting my hopes up.
I'm just guessing, but don't be surprised if all we see is a small tour of Europe in 2017. And we should all be thankful for that and getting B&L for Christmas. I do hope I'm wrong, but not getting my hopes up.
Re: The Rolling Stones new blues album "Blue & Lonesome" due out Dec 2
Posted by:
schillid
()
Date: December 29, 2016 22:55
Quote
exilestonesQuote
schillid
I always love your gifs!
Thank you kindly.
Re: The Rolling Stones new blues album "Blue & Lonesome" due out Dec 2
Posted by:
TeddyB1018
()
Date: December 29, 2016 23:44
Quote
mpj200
There is no doubt that the success of B&L has given the band a kick up the arse. But Mick doesn't want to do another blues bit. He wants to record his songs. Keith wants to write with Mick. Meanwhile they are looking at tour dates.
I'm just guessing, but don't be surprised if all we see is a small tour of Europe in 2017. And we should all be thankful for that and getting B&L for Christmas. I do hope I'm wrong, but not getting my hopes up.
Yep. They both want to do a new Stones album. I think a few clustered European tour dates for money makes sense as part of that plan. I suspect though the hope would be to release the album for next Christmas.
Re: The Rolling Stones new blues album "Blue & Lonesome" due out Dec 2
Posted by:
georgelicks
()
Date: December 30, 2016 00:52
The Stones are a hot selling act again, B&L will sell steady from mouth to mouth during the next 3-4 months, then the European tour will help too during the summer, they won't release anything until late 2017.
Re: The Rolling Stones new blues album "Blue & Lonesome" due out Dec 2
Posted by:
Hairball
()
Date: December 30, 2016 01:00
Wondering why Mick doesn't want to collaborate with Keith and instead force his demos onto the Stones?
It's been said many times (not just by me), but he ought to release those as a solo album - he can have complete control and get feedback from Dave Stewart.
For the sake of humanity and music fans around the world, please quit being stubborn Mick, and write something new with Keith for crying out loud!
_____________________________________________________________
Rip this joint, gonna save your soul, round and round and round we go......
It's been said many times (not just by me), but he ought to release those as a solo album - he can have complete control and get feedback from Dave Stewart.
For the sake of humanity and music fans around the world, please quit being stubborn Mick, and write something new with Keith for crying out loud!
_____________________________________________________________
Rip this joint, gonna save your soul, round and round and round we go......
Re: The Rolling Stones new blues album "Blue & Lonesome" due out Dec 2
Posted by:
georgelicks
()
Date: December 30, 2016 01:20
Quote
Hairball
Wondering why Mick doesn't want to collaborate with Keith and instead force his demos onto the Stones?
It's been said many times (not just by me), but he ought to release those as a solo album - he can have complete control and get feedback from Dave Stewart.
For the sake of humanity and music fans around the world, please quit being stubborn Mick, and write something new with Keith for crying out loud!
We're not in 1971 anymore, they are not going to spend more than 2-3 weeks on the studio, Mick won't do it, even B&L had the weekend off (Friday Dec. 11 - Monday/Tuesday Dec. 14-15), Keith's latest album was recorded during 3 YEARS, and he only worked with his pal Steve Jordan, sometimes 2-3 days for month.
Re: The Rolling Stones new blues album "Blue & Lonesome" due out Dec 2
Posted by:
Hairball
()
Date: December 30, 2016 01:28
Quote
georgelicksQuote
Hairball
Wondering why Mick doesn't want to collaborate with Keith and instead force his demos onto the Stones?
It's been said many times (not just by me), but he ought to release those as a solo album - he can have complete control and get feedback from Dave Stewart.
For the sake of humanity and music fans around the world, please quit being stubborn Mick, and write something new with Keith for crying out loud!
We're not in 1971 anymore, they are not going to spend more than 2-3 weeks on the studio, Mick won't do it, even B&L had the weekend off (Friday Dec. 11 - Monday/Tuesday Dec. 14-15), Keith's latest album was recorded during 3 YEARS, and he only worked with his pal Steve Jordan, sometimes 2-3 days for month.
I hear ya georgelicks...I was just venting out some frustration.
If I were to be totally honest, I wouldnt expect anything more from them.
B&L II would be nice, but Mick doesn't want to do it. Mick wants his demos as Stones songs, but Keith says no way.
As has been mentioned, B&L would be a nice bookend to their recording career, and I could live with that.
Never say never though...
_____________________________________________________________
Rip this joint, gonna save your soul, round and round and round we go......
Re: The Rolling Stones new blues album "Blue & Lonesome" due out Dec 2
Posted by:
mpj200
()
Date: December 30, 2016 01:41
George has nailed it, hasn't he? Times have changed. They don't hang out together like they used to. They all lead very separate lives. I'm thankful they are in talks about more shows next year. We should all be thankful they are still alive and performing.
Re: The Rolling Stones new blues album "Blue & Lonesome" due out Dec 2
Posted by:
MisterDDDD
()
Date: December 30, 2016 02:21
Quote
Hairball
Wondering why Mick doesn't want to collaborate with Keith and instead force his demos onto the Stones?
It's been said many times (not just by me), but he ought to release those as a solo album - he can have complete control and get feedback from Dave Stewart.
For the sake of humanity and music fans around the world, please quit being stubborn Mick, and write something new with Keith for crying out loud!
Source?
Never mind.. found it.
[upload.wikimedia.org]
Re: The Rolling Stones new blues album "Blue & Lonesome" due out Dec 2
Posted by:
Rip This
()
Date: December 30, 2016 03:38
...bulls eye
Re: The Rolling Stones new blues album "Blue & Lonesome" due out Dec 2
Posted by:
Hairball
()
Date: December 30, 2016 03:57
Quote
MisterDDDDQuote
Hairball
Wondering why Mick doesn't want to collaborate with Keith and instead force his demos onto the Stones?
It's been said many times (not just by me), but he ought to release those as a solo album - he can have complete control and get feedback from Dave Stewart.
For the sake of humanity and music fans around the world, please quit being stubborn Mick, and write something new with Keith for crying out loud!
Source?
Never mind.. found it.
[upload.wikimedia.org]
If you would have spent 30 more seconds reading this page of this thread, you would have found the correct source as mpj200 who stated:
"Mick doesn't want to do another blues bit. He wants to record his songs. Keith wants to write with Mick".
I was simply echoing the sentiment...
ps - you need to find some new material as your sarcasm has become stale.
_____________________________________________________________
Rip this joint, gonna save your soul, round and round and round we go......
Re: The Rolling Stones new blues album "Blue & Lonesome" due out Dec 2
Posted by:
matxil
()
Date: December 30, 2016 14:05
Quote
GasLightStreetQuote
maumauQuote
matxil
...just a blues album well done. At this point in their career, that's the best we can get: good but not great, and a bit pointless given that most of the album has been done already by others at least as well.
If that was a point, the catalogue of many great artists would be pointless.
HA HA! You got that right! Frank Sinatra anyone?
Maybe I should apologize for my previous post. Last year I was very enthusiastic about Crosseyed Heart and I was often surprised how people felt the need to continuously shoot it down so much. I don't want to make the same mistake myself now with B&L. So I promise I won't say more about it.
I am glad so many people enjoy the album so much and maumau made some interesting points in writing why he does.
I hope I am excused, however, to remark that I absolutely detest Frank Sinatra (his singing, his music, his style, etc) and I haven't gone as sour as to compare the Stones to him and I hope it will never come to that.
Sorry, only registered users may post in this forum.
Online Users
audun-eg , dishevelmentblues , filoca , guytout59 , LeonidP , madrid82 , philrock90 , pjb , resotele , Slop , StonedRambler , voodoodrew , zubbid
Guests:
1777
Record Number of Users:
206
on June 1, 2022 23:50
Record Number of Guests:
9627
on January 2, 2024 23:10