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They may have a deal now that is a 'do whatever you want' deal for all it seems.
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powerage78
Almost no new material since 2005 but yes off course no worries.
Off course no worries. We got a great BLUES cover album coming!
Better no new material than lousy albums like Rock and Roll Train and Rock or Burst (the first album that is missing in my AC/DC collection) like AC/DC produced and going on tour without Malcolm, Phil Rudd and Brian Johnson but with Axl Rose .
Better some great blues covers than usless album like Black Ice or Rock or Bust.
BLACK ICE is outstanding and almost as good as STIFF UPPER LIP! Alas, I can not speak of ROCK OR BUST because I never got around to getting it.
HAHAHA! These albums made such a low impression I don't even remember the titles. STIFF UPPER LIP has one good track, the title song and BALLBREAKER is lousy too except Hard As A Rock. So that's maybe 4 good tracks in 20+ years. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz........................
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Rockman
...a solo album after Blue and Lonesome?
Do you think it's possible?
NO!!! ... there'll be a Stones album of new material ...
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powerage78
Black Ice peaked at number one in 29 countries, including Australia, Canada, the United Kingdom and the United States. It was the second best-selling record of 2008 and had shipped more than 8 million copies worldwide.
What about À Bigger Bang ?
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Black Ice peaked at number one in 29 countries, including Australia, Canada, the United Kingdom and the United States. It was the second best-selling record of 2008 and had shipped more than 8 million copies worldwide.
What about À Bigger Bang ?
Black Ice was a surprise monster seller, no one saw that coming, I mean the album did sell close to 800k in the US during the first week and about 6.2 million copies worldwide during 2008. Crazy.
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What I don't quite understand is why they're intending a new album of original material at all when it shines through now that they're not exactly kissed by their muses. I mean, they are not bound by any recording contracts to do a new album, a freedom they rightfully earned throughout their career.
Their contract with UMe calls for 3 new albums. What is not known is the specifics of what 3 new albums is: studio, live... because they've released 3 live albums so far with UMe (SHINE A LIGHT, SWEET SUMMER SUN, STICKY FINGERS LIVE).
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What I don't quite understand is why they're intending a new album of original material at all when it shines through now that they're not exactly kissed by their muses. I mean, they are not bound by any recording contracts to do a new album, a freedom they rightfully earned throughout their career.
Their contract with UMe calls for 3 new albums. What is not known is the specifics of what 3 new albums is: studio, live... because they've released 3 live albums so far with UMe (SHINE A LIGHT, SWEET SUMMER SUN, STICKY FINGERS LIVE).
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It was three releases with new material (not three new studio albums) over a five year period. By 2013 they had reissued EXILE and SOME GIRLS with newly recorded material and compiled GRRR with new material included.
Obviously the agreement has been extended because the label relationship is considered supportive at this stage in their careers. The band is no longer the crown in a label's roster. The archive releases are continuing. Don Was will continue to be involved in the higher profile archival releases just as every archival release is mixed or remixed by Bob Clearmountain. There will be a new Stones album in 2017 or later one way or the other. There will be another Jagger solo release in 2018 or later one way or the other.
For a very long time, Mick and Keith have been critical of the direction one another chooses for the band. For the past 15 years or so, the rest of the band is also less than enthusiastic about new material though this is rarely voiced outside of closed doors, it has been conveyed with Ronnie stating many times over the years there is no need for new material and Mick mentioning he thought everyone (the band, Don Was, and Universal) would be more enthused over his new material in 2012 and somewhat surprised the one they went for was "Doom and Gloom." These guys have ego and still want to create work that will be received well by the public. This is a tough time for them and plays into inactivity and sniping. If Keith hadn't felt like his muse deserted him at the time, LIFE would not have had the vitriol. He found that muse again with Steve Jordan, but it is hardly a question of confidence restored. Both he and Mick are plagued with doubt over whether their work will be met well. Neither wants to risk failure. There are regular posters here at IORR who know this for fact should you not accept my "take" on the situation. One way or the other, there will be more "new" Stones and Jagger material whether brand new songs or newly released recordings that have languished in the vaults. More material was worked on between 2009 and 2011 than has surfaced. Mick has also done more recording with Dave Stewart that has not surfaced. Keith's work with Steve Jordan earlier this year was an attempt to get the spark going that was not necessarily there with the Stones (from Keith's perspective) and then bring that back to the band. Finding someone in sympathy with your work is not easy at their ages. That is why Matt Clifford and Steve Jordan are vital to both of them. CROSSEYED HEART could be seen as a small miracle for a legendary artist who thought he had lost his way. The craft of songwriting is easier for Mick, but both of them lack confidence and do not always support one another's endeavors. Keith doesn't want to stay relevant and Mick wants energy not songs that are "too slow." It's a creative disconnect that simple compromise can no longer heal not with others doubting them and not being the yes men they were in the past.
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They may have a deal now that is a 'do whatever you want' deal for all it seems.
That's the current deal with Universal, the original deal was for 5 years and NEVER asked for original or new stuff.
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powerage78
Yes, great for Magic Sam, dead so young.
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Spud
Rocky does indeed speak much sense.
The most pertinent point I thnk is that in days of yore they would often wait for days for Keith to come up with that Killer hook... and then spend weeks playing with scores of overdubs and alternative passes to result in the required magic.
They don't have the inclination to do that anymore.
ABB was a good example .
They came up with the bones of a few decent songs, played them decently well...and then put out the resulting decent album.
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GasLightStreet
It's just very strange that they've recorded albums past 1981 and they've ignored them. Perhaps they're admitting that they're not any good but the reality possibly is the crowds either don't know them, don't own them or don't like them so, as Mick likes to say, why bother.
Because they did them? That seems logical. But the Stones have never been about logic, really.
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Hairball
They can take all the time they want if it's going to make for a better record, but the pertinent question now is if they have the time and patience?
Can't imagine them all anxiously wanting to get back in the studio any time soon - especially after their recent hefty payday (Desert Trip, Vegas, private shows).
Except for 'young' Ronnie, they're all over 70 and are probably enjoying the fruits of their labor and spending time with family, children, horses, etc.
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They can take all the time they want if it's going to make for a better record, but the pertinent question now is if they have the time and patience?
Can't imagine them all anxiously wanting to get back in the studio any time soon - especially after their recent hefty payday (Desert Trip, Vegas, private shows).
Except for 'young' Ronnie, they're all over 70 and are probably enjoying the fruits of their labor and spending time with family, children, horses, etc.
Except that most of the other performers at the Desert (all of similar age) will be as busy as ever in 2017.
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They can take all the time they want if it's going to make for a better record, but the pertinent question now is if they have the time and patience?
Can't imagine them all anxiously wanting to get back in the studio any time soon - especially after their recent hefty payday (Desert Trip, Vegas, private shows).
Except for 'young' Ronnie, they're all over 70 and are probably enjoying the fruits of their labor and spending time with family, children, horses, etc.
Except that most of the other performers at the Desert (all of similar age) will be as busy as ever in 2017.
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Wild Slivovitz
Very, very good article!! Thanks for the link.