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Re: "The Rolling Stones British Discography of Singles on DECCA Records"
Posted by: 1963luca0 ()
Date: September 19, 2017 16:14

About the logos, as no 'I Wanna Be Your Man' presents them on labels, I believe that they were introduced in 1964. Initially used for TRS EP, they were temporary deleted and re-introduced in late 1964 for LRR. I have verified this timeline with many (not all) other DECCA singles and seems to be correct. If 'Poison Ivy' was made with the logos in September 1963, it'd remain as a unique in DECCA history. Not impossible, obviously... IMO, the only copy we know was not pressed in 1963, but in 1964. If so, the reason why is hard to guess.

'Poison Ivy' on show poster is not strange. First, it was a live warhorse at the time, second it's on TRS EP scheduled for Christmas 1963.

In any case, I like Deltics contribution a lot.
Bye, Luca

Re: "The Rolling Stones British Discography of Singles on DECCA Records"
Posted by: Deltics ()
Date: September 19, 2017 17:13

I don't think you can use the inclusion of the BIEM and NCB logos on Decca labels as dating evidence.
This one, by Screaming Lord Sutch issued in September 1963, has the NCB logo and the catalogue number is five digits after the one allocated to Poison Ivy (F 11747 - F 11742) [www.45cat.com].
This one, by ALO's protege, George Bean (featuring Keef on claves, fact fans!) was issued in October 1963, has both logos on the label and is only two digits different from "I Wanna Be Your Man" (F 11762 - F 11764) [www.45cat.com].

The earliest Decca single that I can find with both logos on the label is by Karl Denver and was issued in March, 1963: [www.45cat.com]

'Poison Ivy' on show poster is not strange. First, it was a live warhorse at the time, second it's on TRS EP scheduled for Christmas 1963.

A "warhorse" maybe but hardly a hit parade tune!


"As we say in England, it can get a bit trainspottery"



Edited 4 time(s). Last edit at 2017-09-19 17:40 by Deltics.

Re: "The Rolling Stones British Discography of Singles on DECCA Records"
Posted by: 1963luca0 ()
Date: September 19, 2017 22:49

Excellent points, Deltics.
I will revise filesand be baci after Zurich and Lucca, thanks,

Re: "The Rolling Stones British Discography of Singles on DECCA Records"
Posted by: 1963luca0 ()
Date: September 29, 2017 10:47

Yes, Deltics. When discussing about the presence/absence of the logos on labels I was wrong. My fault.
That said, all my points on the actual datre of pressing of 'Poison Ivy' happen to be wrong. Still, I'm not totally satisfied with the history of the single: did it reach the shops or not?

Re: "The Rolling Stones British Discography of Singles on DECCA Records"
Posted by: biggzee ()
Date: December 29, 2017 12:36

Hi Luca,

Thought I read somewhere that there was going to be a reprint of this book. Or am I making this up!

Would love to get a copy to go with your new book, which I will order when I see the link on Amazon.

Cheers,
Biggzee

Re: "The Rolling Stones British Discography of Singles on DECCA Records"
Posted by: 1963luca0 ()
Date: December 29, 2017 17:23

Hi,
the re-worked edition is currently available on your local Amazon.
thanks a lot, Luca

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