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The Killer was completely and utterly full of malarkey and ignorant of his own racist reading of his own country's racist musical heritage. (Although he was the subject of one of rock's greatest biographies, the magnificent Hellfire by the recently departed Nik Tosches.)
Also, notice anything about those 4 "stylists"? They's all white, son!
I'm with Hairball on this one. "You Gotta Move" is a poor pastiche. And Jolson singing "Mammy" is the apotheosis of a minstrel culture whose cruelty still resonates today.
Nick Toshes --- Where Dead Voices Gather ...............……….page55
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It's a good question, rockee. to be honest i'm not entirely sure what jerry lee means by "stylists."
i'd say the following -- all born before the killer -- could qualify as "stylists" who were at least as seminal or influential as his list:
louis armstrong
chuck berry
james brown
ray charles
nat king cole
sam cooke
sammy davis jr
ella
billie
mahalia jackson
leontyne price
paul robeson
bill robinson
bessie
sarah vaughn
the wolf
btw - you seem to know nik tosches' work: what do you think of his dean martin bio?
Agreed—-a real loss.
…………………..………………………. Mick Jagger 2015
ROCKMAN
Just the dobro, methinks. Taylor on electric.
So what’s Jagger talking about a 12 string?
I’ll have to re-listen, I thought there were two electrics.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2019-11-12 15:05 by TravelinMan.
Thanks, seems like an interesting read, I'm going to check it out for sure.
That makes me sad, his biggest payment was 7,000? And when he was already dying from cancer! Damn, life sure kicks some people in the balls!
Must be a dobro on the original recording. On SF Live Keith plays a 12 string acoustic. I don't hear two electrics on the studio version.
The only thing that bugs me is that he plays the riff in minor, instead of in major
Note #2 should have been half a step up...
I like the minor version..
(Don't like the word "should"...)
Ted Gioia --- Delta Blues …………………….. page 386
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The original tombstone for Fred McDowell
now located in the Delta Blues Museum in Clarksdale...…..
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Hammond Hill M. B. Church Cemetery
Como, Panola County, Mississippi, USA ……….
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Hammond Hill M. B. Church Cemetery
Como, Panola County, Mississippi, USA ……….
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Fred McDowell ……………………
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The Rough Guide To The Blues --- Nigel Williamson
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Re: Track Talk: You Gotta Move
Posted by:
Rockman
()
Date: November 9, 2019 02:13
Love Al singing Mammy ...
As the Killer said .. there's only
Four music stylists ... Al Jolson
Jimmie Rodgers ... Hank Williams and me ....
ROCKMAN
As the Killer said .. there's only
Four music stylists ... Al Jolson
Jimmie Rodgers ... Hank Williams and me ....
ROCKMAN
Re: Track Talk: You Gotta Move
Posted by:
TravelinMan
()
Date: November 9, 2019 04:25
They recorded it in Alabama. Love the dual slides. Great song and it adds some rootsy grime to a very polished album.
I’m a fan. I also like the live versions from 1969.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2019-11-09 04:25 by TravelinMan.
I’m a fan. I also like the live versions from 1969.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2019-11-09 04:25 by TravelinMan.
Re: Track Talk: You Gotta Move
Posted by:
LazarusSmith
()
Date: November 9, 2019 05:05
Quote
Rockman
Love Al singing Mammy ...
As the Killer said .. there's only
Four music stylists ... Al Jolson
Jimmie Rodgers ... Hank Williams and me ....
The Killer was completely and utterly full of malarkey and ignorant of his own racist reading of his own country's racist musical heritage. (Although he was the subject of one of rock's greatest biographies, the magnificent Hellfire by the recently departed Nik Tosches.)
Also, notice anything about those 4 "stylists"? They's all white, son!
I'm with Hairball on this one. "You Gotta Move" is a poor pastiche. And Jolson singing "Mammy" is the apotheosis of a minstrel culture whose cruelty still resonates today.
Re: Track Talk: You Gotta Move
Posted by:
wonderboy
()
Date: November 9, 2019 07:36
The McDowell version is like a demo compared to what the Stones did with it.
Re: Track Talk: You Gotta Move
Posted by:
Rockman
()
Date: November 9, 2019 09:39
hhhhhhaaa … funny Lazarus … you remind me of a tall guy I know …
Also, notice anything about those 4 "stylists"? They's all white, son!
Yeah well after all they were all monumental in the history of things
But But Okay Pa … who should The Killer have picked?
Bessie ....Arizona Dranes …. Robeson ….. who …????
ROCKMAN
Also, notice anything about those 4 "stylists"? They's all white, son!
Yeah well after all they were all monumental in the history of things
But But Okay Pa … who should The Killer have picked?
Bessie ....Arizona Dranes …. Robeson ….. who …????
ROCKMAN
Re: Track Talk: You Gotta Move
Posted by:
Rockman
()
Date: November 9, 2019 11:38
Nick Toshes --- Where Dead Voices Gather ...............……….page55
ROCKMAN
Re: Track Talk: You Gotta Move
Posted by:
LazarusSmith
()
Date: November 9, 2019 23:51
Quote
Rockman
hhhhhhaaa … funny Lazarus … you remind me of a tall guy I know …
Also, notice anything about those 4 "stylists"? They's all white, son!
Yeah well after all they were all monumental in the history of things
But But Okay Pa … who should The Killer have picked?
Bessie ....Arizona Dranes …. Robeson ….. who …????
It's a good question, rockee. to be honest i'm not entirely sure what jerry lee means by "stylists."
i'd say the following -- all born before the killer -- could qualify as "stylists" who were at least as seminal or influential as his list:
louis armstrong
chuck berry
james brown
ray charles
nat king cole
sam cooke
sammy davis jr
ella
billie
mahalia jackson
leontyne price
paul robeson
bill robinson
bessie
sarah vaughn
the wolf
btw - you seem to know nik tosches' work: what do you think of his dean martin bio?
Re: Track Talk: You Gotta Move
Posted by:
Rockman
()
Date: November 10, 2019 00:13
Heck Laz …. read Dino years ago ….
finished it but it was a struggle … didn't leave much of an impression
Preferred…. Unsung Heroes … Country twisted roots … dead voices...Hellfire
He dug deep and unearthed weird shit on
stuff like monkey glads and guys like Emmett Miller …
sure knew some obscure records …. gonna be missed
ROCKMAN
finished it but it was a struggle … didn't leave much of an impression
Preferred…. Unsung Heroes … Country twisted roots … dead voices...Hellfire
He dug deep and unearthed weird shit on
stuff like monkey glads and guys like Emmett Miller …
sure knew some obscure records …. gonna be missed
ROCKMAN
Re: Track Talk: You Gotta Move
Posted by:
LazarusSmith
()
Date: November 10, 2019 00:40
Quote
Rockman
Heck Laz …. read Dino years ago ….
finished it but it was a struggle … didn't leave much of an impression
Preferred…. Unsung Heroes … Country twisted roots … dead voices...Hellfire
He dug deep and unearthed weird shit on
stuff like monkey glads and guys like Emmett Miller …
sure knew some obscure records …. gonna be missed
Agreed—-a real loss.
Re: Track Talk: You Gotta Move
Posted by:
Nikkei
()
Date: November 11, 2019 00:41
once again: plz listen to this YGM cover and tell me who recorded it [www.youtube.com]
Re: Track Talk: You Gotta Move
Posted by:
Rockman
()
Date: November 12, 2019 01:24
…………………..………………………. Mick Jagger 2015
ROCKMAN
Re: Track Talk: You Gotta Move
Posted by:
Nikkei
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Date: November 12, 2019 01:34
so he spoke and went on to revive it... that one time
Re: Track Talk: You Gotta Move
Posted by:
TravelinMan
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Date: November 12, 2019 04:29
I thought Richards played a resonator and an electric?
Re: Track Talk: You Gotta Move
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
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Date: November 12, 2019 10:28
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TravelinMan
I thought Richards played a resonator and an electric?
Just the dobro, methinks. Taylor on electric.
Re: Track Talk: You Gotta Move
Posted by:
TravelinMan
()
Date: November 12, 2019 15:04
Quote
DandelionPowdermanQuote
TravelinMan
I thought Richards played a resonator and an electric?
Just the dobro, methinks. Taylor on electric.
So what’s Jagger talking about a 12 string?
I’ll have to re-listen, I thought there were two electrics.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2019-11-12 15:05 by TravelinMan.
Re: Track Talk: You Gotta Move
Posted by:
LeonidP
()
Date: November 12, 2019 16:48
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Rockman
Say No To The Devil; The Life & Musical Genius of Rev. Gary Davis:
Thanks, seems like an interesting read, I'm going to check it out for sure.
Quote
On Mississippi Fred: "... handed McDowell a check for $7,106.02 the following April -- the biggest payment McDowell ever pocketed -- three months before he lost his battle with cancer."
That makes me sad, his biggest payment was 7,000? And when he was already dying from cancer! Damn, life sure kicks some people in the balls!
Re: Track Talk: You Gotta Move
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
()
Date: November 12, 2019 16:51
Quote
TravelinManQuote
DandelionPowdermanQuote
TravelinMan
I thought Richards played a resonator and an electric?
Just the dobro, methinks. Taylor on electric.
So what’s Jagger talking about a 12 string?
I’ll have to re-listen, I thought there were two electrics.
Must be a dobro on the original recording. On SF Live Keith plays a 12 string acoustic. I don't hear two electrics on the studio version.
Re: Track Talk: You Gotta Move
Posted by:
OpenG
()
Date: November 12, 2019 18:02
I like the SF live version with Keith on 12 string then the 75 live version.
Re: Track Talk: You Gotta Move
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
()
Date: November 12, 2019 18:46
Quote
OpenG
I like the SF live version with Keith on 12 string then the 75 live version.
The only thing that bugs me is that he plays the riff in minor, instead of in major
Note #2 should have been half a step up...
Re: Track Talk: You Gotta Move
Posted by:
TravelinMan
()
Date: November 12, 2019 18:51
Ah, so Jagger was just confusing the record with the modern performance.
Re: Track Talk: You Gotta Move
Posted by:
z
()
Date: November 12, 2019 20:45
Quote
DandelionPowdermanQuote
OpenG
I like the SF live version with Keith on 12 string then the 75 live version.
The only thing that bugs me is that he plays the riff in minor, instead of in major
Note #2 should have been half a step up...
I like the minor version..
(Don't like the word "should"...)
Re: Track Talk: You Gotta Move
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
()
Date: November 12, 2019 20:48
Quote
zQuote
DandelionPowdermanQuote
OpenG
I like the SF live version with Keith on 12 string then the 75 live version.
The only thing that bugs me is that he plays the riff in minor, instead of in major
Note #2 should have been half a step up...
I like the minor version..
(Don't like the word "should"...)
Re: Track Talk: You Gotta Move
Posted by:
Rockman
()
Date: November 13, 2019 03:00
Ted Gioia --- Delta Blues …………………….. page 386
ROCKMAN
Re: Track Talk: You Gotta Move
Posted by:
Rockman
()
Date: November 13, 2019 03:26
The original tombstone for Fred McDowell
now located in the Delta Blues Museum in Clarksdale...…..
ROCKMAN
Re: Track Talk: You Gotta Move
Posted by:
Cristiano Radtke
()
Date: November 13, 2019 04:00
"You got to moooooo..."
Re: Track Talk: You Gotta Move
Posted by:
Rockman
()
Date: November 13, 2019 04:59
Hammond Hill M. B. Church Cemetery
Como, Panola County, Mississippi, USA ……….
ROCKMAN
Re: Track Talk: You Gotta Move
Posted by:
Rockman
()
Date: November 13, 2019 05:21
Hammond Hill M. B. Church Cemetery
Como, Panola County, Mississippi, USA ……….
ROCKMAN
Re: Track Talk: You Gotta Move
Posted by:
Rockman
()
Date: November 13, 2019 05:22
Fred McDowell ……………………
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Re: Track Talk: You Gotta Move
Posted by:
Rockman
()
Date: November 13, 2019 05:38
The Rough Guide To The Blues --- Nigel Williamson
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