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Re: OT: Nice, France - Bastille Day attack
Posted by: RoughJusticeOnYa ()
Date: July 15, 2016 21:15

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Elmo Lewis
... referring to these animals for what they are ...


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wonderboy
RIP and prayers to the people of France.
This is a political matter and hopefully Western peoples can formulate a strategy to deal with it.

European news channels now clearly state it's NOT;
this attack apparently has NO bearing whatsoever with (political) terrorism - religiously inspired or otherwise.

These were the acts of a lone nutcase; heavily depressed by heavily going wrong. (Not justifying here; just stating facts.)

Poor way to end it; I completely agree.
And absolutely demonic to take so many innocent people with you (remember that German pilot, 1 or 2 years ago?)...

But NO religious fundamentalism, and NO political motives involved here.

There was 'terror' allright, in the streets of Nice yesterday; but it wasn't "Terrorism".

A quite clear-cut case of suicide, unfortunately.

That's what I'm picking up, the last couple of hours...


My thoughts go out to all the victims' & survivors' souls.

Re: OT: Nice, France - Bastille Day attack
Posted by: dcba ()
Date: July 15, 2016 21:34

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RoughJusticeOnYa

this attack apparently has NO bearing whatsoever with (political) terrorism - religiously inspired or otherwise.

A - we should wait till his phone and PC "speak"
B - when he was in Tunisia he was close to an Islamist party
C - police wiretapping of Islamists in Nice seemingly show his name was often mentioned by "persons of interest".

Re: OT: Nice, France - Bastille Day attack
Posted by: RoughJusticeOnYa ()
Date: July 15, 2016 21:41

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dcba

C - (...) his name was often mentioned by "persons of interest".

Don't know wher you get that from, but I just saw the press conference of the French authorities stating the EXACT oposite - in fact: stating explicitely that he was NOT in any way linked to nor showed interest in Ismalism 'et al'. Not loccally, not nationaly, not internationaly.

But true; you never know what might show up in the future.

Re: OT: Nice, France - Bastille Day attack
Posted by: jpasc95 ()
Date: July 15, 2016 22:08

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RoughJusticeOnYa
Quote
dcba

C - (...) his name was often mentioned by "persons of interest".

Don't know wher you get that from, but I just saw the press conference of the French authorities stating the EXACT oposite - in fact: stating explicitely that he was NOT in any way linked to nor showed interest in Ismalism 'et al'. Not loccally, not nationaly, not internationaly.

But true; you never know what might show up in the future.
the method used by this assassin is the one recommended by Daech. To use vehicles to kill people.
For the moment, we can't say that the assassin is a Daech soldier but he sure shares the same madness !

What's more, we also know that some policemen in charge of the security yesterday made a big mistake. The Promenade des Anglais where people walk was closed to vehicles.
But the assassin lied to them by saying he had ice-creams to deliver and they unfortunately let him get through.

Re: OT: Nice, France - Bastille Day attack
Posted by: RobberBride ()
Date: July 15, 2016 22:09

Terrible . Just terrible.
Spent last week there.
My thoughts goes out to all the magnificent people of Nice, to the victims and their families.
My deepest condolences.

Re: OT: Nice, France - Bastille Day attack
Posted by: BroomWagon ()
Date: July 15, 2016 22:20

Quote
RoughJusticeOnYa
Quote
Elmo Lewis
... referring to these animals for what they are ...


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wonderboy
RIP and prayers to the people of France.
This is a political matter and hopefully Western peoples can formulate a strategy to deal with it.

European news channels now clearly state it's NOT;
this attack apparently has NO bearing whatsoever with (political) terrorism - religiously inspired or otherwise.

These were the acts of a lone nutcase; heavily depressed by heavily going wrong. (Not justifying here; just stating facts.)

Poor way to end it; I completely agree.
And absolutely demonic to take so many innocent people with you (remember that German pilot, 1 or 2 years ago?)...

But NO religious fundamentalism, and NO political motives involved here.

There was 'terror' allright, in the streets of Nice yesterday; but it wasn't "Terrorism".

A quite clear-cut case of suicide, unfortunately.

That's what I'm picking up, the last couple of hours...


My thoughts go out to all the victims' & survivors' souls.

Maybe this is the attitude of this individual and this will be proven so.

But we are told he had grenades and other weapons, he had to go through some channels to get these.

Anyway, I'm not going to weigh in much on the implications until we have more facts.

Re: OT: Nice, France - Bastille Day attack
Posted by: Stones50 ()
Date: July 15, 2016 22:59

Quote
RoughJusticeOnYa
Quote
Elmo Lewis
... referring to these animals for what they are ...


Quote
wonderboy
RIP and prayers to the people of France.
This is a political matter and hopefully Western peoples can formulate a strategy to deal with it.

European news channels now clearly state it's NOT;
this attack apparently has NO bearing whatsoever with (political) terrorism - religiously inspired or otherwise.

These were the acts of a lone nutcase; heavily depressed by heavily going wrong. (Not justifying here; just stating facts.)

Poor way to end it; I completely agree.
And absolutely demonic to take so many innocent people with you (remember that German pilot, 1 or 2 years ago?)...

But NO religious fundamentalism, and NO political motives involved here.

There was 'terror' allright, in the streets of Nice yesterday; but it wasn't "Terrorism".

A quite clear-cut case of suicide, unfortunately.

That's what I'm picking up, the last couple of hours...


My thoughts go out to all the victims' & survivors' souls.

STOP IT!

Re: OT: Nice, France - Bastille Day attack
Posted by: jpasc95 ()
Date: July 15, 2016 23:41

now we know that the assassin was Tunisian.

Re: OT: Nice, France - Bastille Day attack
Posted by: BamaStone ()
Date: July 16, 2016 00:16

Well we all know unlike WWII there is no country we can attack to stop this shit, they are like roach bugs all over the world. But we know there is a command and control center in Syria. We need to just park some B-52's above Syria, bomb them to rubble, brings them to there knees to where they will call off their operatives around the world. The sane World has got to united to stop this murder of innocents you can't negotiate with these idiots...

Re: OT: Nice, France - Bastille Day attack
Posted by: treaclefingers ()
Date: July 16, 2016 02:16

je suis Charlie

OT : Staying in Paris
Posted by: rollmops ()
Date: July 14, 2016 17:35

I will be in Paris from 07/26 to 07/29. Anything rock and roll going on in the city of light? Of course there are a lot of things to see but I would like to know what Iorrians in the knowing would advise me to do.
Thank you,
Rock and roll,
Mops

Re: OT : Staying in Paris
Posted by: Shezeboss ()
Date: July 14, 2016 18:15

CONCERTS À LA SAINTE-CHAPELLE AVEC DÎNER
mar., 26. juillet. 2016, 20:30 or 28 juillet
Sainte-Chapelle
France, Paris
Just an idea in a fabulous historic place !
Concerts Sainte Chapelle - Classictic.com

Re: OT : Staying in Paris
Posted by: rollmops ()
Date: July 14, 2016 18:20

Thank you Shetheboss; classical music isn't my thing. The place looks great.
Rock and roll,
mops

Re: OT : Staying in Paris
Posted by: jpasc95 ()
Date: July 14, 2016 18:22

you can also have some rest or read a book on "Paris Plages" (Paris Beaches) from July 20th till August 21st.
[quefaire.paris.fr]

you should try this : it's a pop/rock band
[www.offi.fr]



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Re: OT : Staying in Paris
Posted by: Shezeboss ()
Date: July 14, 2016 23:24

Another thing,Roll, July 28 more jazz, but excellent: ROY AYERS (VIBRAPHONE) with JOHN PRESSLEY (VOCALS) DONALD NICKS (BASS) JAMAL PEOPLES (KEYS)LARRY PEOPLES (DRUMS), at THE "NEW MORNING" Good place well known in Paris. Price : 31,90 €
[www.newmorning.com]
Those artists played in that place : Art Blakey, Elliott Murphy, Dr Feelgood ou les Fleshtones, George Russell, Stan Getz, Chet Baker, Pat Metheny, Charlie Haden, Dizzy Gillespie, Arturo Sandoval, Dexter Gordon, Kenny Clarke, B. B. King ou bien encore PRINCE (!) et Didier Lockwood mais aussi Archie Shepp

Re: OT : Staying in Paris
Posted by: BroomWagon ()
Date: July 15, 2016 00:08

Happy Independence Day to all of those in France today as well!

Re: OT : Staying in Paris
Posted by: Shezeboss ()
Date: July 15, 2016 01:22

Thank's Broom ! Have a nice day or evening or night !

Re: OT : Staying in Paris
Posted by: BroomWagon ()
Date: July 15, 2016 01:22

Serious attack in nice. All of my thoughts and prayers. News says 30 killed.

Re: OT : Staying in Paris
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: July 15, 2016 01:35

Serious attack in Nice.

Yes terrible news just coming thru ....



ROCKMAN

Re: OT : Staying in Paris
Posted by: latebloomer ()
Date: July 15, 2016 01:43

Oh dear, just awful...

Re: OT : Staying in Paris
Posted by: MileHigh ()
Date: July 15, 2016 02:43

Another sad day.

I am going to say something that may offend some. If this was another ISIS attack, then get real and do what Winston Churchill would have done a long time ago, declare war and get on with it.

Re: OT : Staying in Paris
Posted by: Hairball ()
Date: July 15, 2016 02:59

Very sad news... sad smiley

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Rip this joint, gonna save your soul, round and round and round we go......

Re: OT : Staying in Paris
Posted by: Nate ()
Date: July 15, 2016 03:27

I was flying over Nice tonight looking down at the lights on the coastline unaware that this was happening at the very moment when I was flying over.
I am now in my hotel in Rome watching the news with images of people carrying young children and babies running through the streets of Nice their faces filled with terror.

I will refrain from making any comments about what needs to be done to attempt to solve this problem of terrorism as it will just be deleted from here.

Thoughts are with people in Nice tonight.

Nate

Re: OT : Staying in Paris
Posted by: Stoneage ()
Date: July 15, 2016 04:17

My thoughts goes to those poor victims in Nice tonight.



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Re: OT : Staying in Paris
Posted by: Stoneage ()
Date: July 15, 2016 04:34

Perpetrator is said to be a 31 year old Frenchman with roots from Morocco.

Re: OT : Staying in Paris
Posted by: alieb ()
Date: July 15, 2016 04:55

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rollmops
Thank you Shetheboss; classical music isn't my thing. The place looks great.
Rock and roll,
mops

I saw a concert there when i was in Paris a few weeks ago (mum's idea) but as a violin player i wasn't massively impressed with the quartet. The chapel is beautiful but you can visit it when there isn't a concert on.

Re: OT : Staying in Paris
Posted by: stonesrule ()
Date: July 15, 2016 05:33

If amazing beauty matters to you,
Sainte Chapelle and the wonderful Paris Opera House are beyond compare.

Also just standing in the Place Concorde, a historic and lovely space.

Re: OT : Staying in Paris
Posted by: jpasc95 ()
Date: July 15, 2016 06:17

at least 80 dead people for the moment in Nice.
Seems to be an isolated act.



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Re: OT : Staying in Paris
Date: July 15, 2016 09:41

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Stoneage
Perpetrator is said to be a 31 year old Frenchman with roots from Morocco.

Tunisia, I heard?

Re: OT : Staying in Paris
Posted by: Aquamarine ()
Date: July 15, 2016 10:10

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MileHigh
Another sad day.

I am going to say something that may offend some. If this was another ISIS attack, then get real and do what Winston Churchill would have done a long time ago, declare war and get on with it.

Against whom, exactly? An underground organization with international connections isn't the same as a country that you can formally declare war on. This isn't Churchill's world anymore.

Terrible tragedy in Nice, anyway. I have a friend living near there who I'm still waiting to hear from, hoping she didn't go into the city for the Bastille Day celebrations.

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