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Maybe this thread should have been titled "Praise, worship, and holy devotion for Mick Jagger solo works".
Might have kept out some of the riff raff.

Isn't Riff Raff an old AC/DC track...?

I think so lol, and it wouldn't surprise me if it's been discussed somewhere in this meandering thread!

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Maybe this thread should have been titled "Praise, worship, and holy devotion for Mick Jagger solo works".
Might have kept out some of the riff raff.

Isn't Riff Raff an old AC/DC track...?

I think so lol, and it wouldn't surprise me if it's been discussed somewhere in this meandering thread!

Yes,maybe...but I'm not going to wade through fortysomething pages to check that...

Mick's great. I mean he's embarassing too. It's fun to take shots at him. I nearly died in that tree thread when Grandpa apparently dressed himself that morning...but you know...he's one beautiful perfect Mick Jagger; all of those guys, as Keith has inferred; Just got to pick the right one on the right day. Could possibly get your head torn off by some gut-busting ass-shaking body-quaking boogie woogie; it's been known to happen.

btw, glad they got that blues LP out of their systems. Now for the Boogie Woogies LP I'm hoping. You all remember that rubber-legged boy?



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Maybe this thread should have been titled "Praise, worship, and holy devotion for Mick Jagger solo works".
Might have kept out some of the riff raff.

It could have been quite enough to title the thread "Mick Jagger solo works - outside the "keithetting" horizon".

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Every time i open this site,it,s the same people talking bullshit about Jagger,always the Keith asslickers band.
So tired to read all the bullshit who,s coming from the same people all the time.
Childish stupid people,age of these people has to be up till 12 years old

I noticed that you chose not to quote any of those 12 year olds..

Any examples?

What I see is two or three people having some light-hearted fun now again. However, they are also contributing to the discussion.

I suggest you do the same if you wanna improve this site.

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posted some time ago...Jagger working with Pete Townshend.

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Every time i open this site,it,s the same people talking bullshit about Jagger,always the Keith asslickers band.
So tired to read all the bullshit who,s coming from the same people all the time.
Childish stupid people,age of these people has to be up till 12 years old

I noticed that you chose not to quote any of those 12 year olds..

Any examples?

What I see is two or three people having some light-hearted fun now again. However, they are also contributing to the discussion.

I suggest you do the same if you wanna improve this site.

I quoted one up down and sideways to someone at a certai point. certain folks just use your good intentions to further their game. it's like handing them a loaded gun and begging for more weird interaction and arguments. Justa adding Fuel to the fire sometimes. Givin' certain types an open invitation for a weird dialog having nothing to do with the subject matter or intent of the thread, or respect for the member (hee hee) who started it. I think I can pretty much understand where 'harlem shuffle' is coming from with this. That's why I increasingly scroll. Works for me pretty much. You move it to the left, And you go for yourself; you move it to the right, if it takes all night. dadah dadah da da dahhhhhh. Mileage will vary. I'm working on a variation of the tongue design on a little toy sherrifs badge. It won't violate their trademark; there will be little differences. I only just yesterday got a certificate in the snail mail for Site Improvement and I really don't even know who to thank first. If it's their way of thanking ME well all I can say is well alright are you havin' a good time? Are you havin' a good time? Well alright.

I didn't ask you, hopkins. You write ugly stuff - then erase it again. "That's why I increasingly troll", would be more fitting.

In my world, calling someone an "arselicker", because you disagree with them, calls for elaboration, to put it mildly - if not the "report this message-button"

All the other posters from the IORR Band say hi, btw. Thank you for the kind words...

I suggest you scroll (or troll) far away from my posts from now on.



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You are a nonsense provateur. trolling who edits or clarifies their own post.
you can have a fight with youself this time little pumpkin. you are trying to replicate and imagine what other people have experienced, and it's really kinda sad. buh bye now....cheerio, bon voyage. i'm sure you'll be here another twenty years and it will be a life well spent, keeping you from peoples hub caps; why it's a dang public service. troll on little guy. you are so special.

wow you are in love with yourself are you not? you have a band?? oh gawd why am i not surprised. let me guess. whoo boy. haha i didn't even read your spot of soil when i posted above? see it works? haha i come back to see you've reached the height of calling bringing anal lickage onto the thread. Oh hail the mighty oldtimers. if you DO have a band let me guess? haa no i won't go there...
well say hi back to your band and tell them i understand. i bet they spend a lot of time just nodding and grinning and winking at each other. they are very patient. thank them for me and return the greetings. you may now feel free to burn up this site with your hate, profanity, weird anal/oral sexual fixations (not surprised) and you are free to just fly fly fly little bird. you are too easy. i shall not engage henceforthie. go right ahead and continue to show your strong leadership; your vast command of miniature electronics and other things...nice to come back to this thread a couple of weeks later and find you still stewing in your own ego; i'be not followed, rare wide guess you've found another few people to stalk...have fun...get help... as for now...gosh i must have clicked into IT's Only All About My Weird Proclivity To Control Manage Massage And Spend My Life On A Computer Talking About Shit I Never Experienced And Hating People Who Do Not Buy My Fantasy.
I'm sure that band is a great success and that you, let me guess, the star, and also fantastic. So why not enjoy your vast wealth fame and very many fans and do not bother with the peons. dont you have management? thanks for updating me on your act and speaking for your entire orchestra. i am humbled by the contact. thanks for leaving that anal oral image of yourself on a post. It is really quite revealing.

You are one hell of a horrible mess when you force your way into representing BV's website. It is an advertisement for silliness self promotion and nastiness unfortunately. I am not surprised to hear that a lot of oldtimers have left. I just got here and have to thank you for teaching me to take longass vacations from this site; because actually you cheapen and degrade it despite being game show trivia dudette. your thousands of friends supporters fellow oldtimers and deep fans that you pretend to represent, can similarly just scroll when they see Hopkins...I know it works. I've done the research. I've had weeks without having any trace of your sad control issues. To me you represent the sad rebel puppets that rock has degraded into; and i don't even know your music, but i'm guessing it's not even your music. I don't care sir. I mean as long as your playing your magic guitar the world is going to be safe; so don't worry about me little guy, you have a bigger job to do don't you? get into those tights and be proud of that cape...cuz you're a super man. get it? are you sniffing some kind of 'powder, man'?



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wow you are in love with yourself are you not? you have a band?? oh gawd why am i not surprised. let me guess. whoo boy. haha i didn't even read your spot of soil when i posted above? see it works? haha i come back to see you've reached the height of calling bringing anal lickage onto the thread. Oh hail the mighty oldtimers. if you DO have a band let me guess? haa no i won't go there...
well say hi back to your band and tell them i understand. i bet they spend a lot of time just nodding and grinning and winking at each other. they are very patient. thank them for me and return the greetings. you may now feel free to burn up this site with your hate, profanity, weird anal/oral sexual fixations (not surprised) and you are free to just fly fly fly little bird. you are too easy. i shall not engage henceforthie. go right ahead and continue to show your strong leadership; your vast command of miniature electronics and other things...nice to come back to this thread a couple of weeks later and find you still stewing in your own ego; i'be not followed, rare wide guess you've found another few people to stalk...have fun...get help... as for now...gosh i must have clicked into IT's Only All About My Weird Proclivity To Control Manage Massage And Spend My Life On A Computer Talking About Shit I Never Experienced And Hating People Who Do Not Buy My Fantasy.
I'm sure that band is a great success and that you, let me guess, the star, and also fantastic. So why not enjoy your vast wealth fame and very many fans and do not bother with the peons. dont you have management? thanks for updating me on your act and speaking for your entire orchestra. i am humbled by the contact. thanks for leaving that anal oral image of yourself on a post. It is really quite revealing.

This is exactly what I'm talking about.

Get help.

And, if you put your medicine away for a while, it was Harlem Shuffle (whom you agreed with) who said that word. That's why I reacted in the first place.

What's the matter with you, can't you read or write?



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Rip This Joint. mick punching in and putting out.
sound sorta sucks this clip; love the way he moving this tour.
he's got that funky soul thing really going on.
I like the controlled highly managed physicality he is master of...
it has my respect; he's compelling after all...
...but in some ways this seems the last tour where he would let his hair down, so to speak, not be so tightly wrapped around the commandeering and pacing. They were young and sort of just going for broke. He would evolve it and work with it through the years. I admire his dedication and training; but I do really love these, what I think are last glimpses of him just being a little funky and playful with it; a trace of abandon here and there; not so absolutely rigidly blocked out and etc...
He's always compelling stage presence though; just amazing...



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wow you are in love with yourself are you not? you have a band?? oh gawd why am i not surprised. let me guess. whoo boy. haha i didn't even read your spot of soil when i posted above? see it works? haha i come back to see you've reached the height of calling bringing anal lickage onto the thread. Oh hail the mighty oldtimers. if you DO have a band let me guess? haa no i won't go there...
well say hi back to your band and tell them i understand. i bet they spend a lot of time just nodding and grinning and winking at each other. they are very patient. thank them for me and return the greetings. you may now feel free to burn up this site with your hate, profanity, weird anal/oral sexual fixations (not surprised) and you are free to just fly fly fly little bird. you are too easy. i shall not engage henceforthie. go right ahead and continue to show your strong leadership; your vast command of miniature electronics and other things...nice to come back to this thread a couple of weeks later and find you still stewing in your own ego; i'be not followed, rare wide guess you've found another few people to stalk...have fun...get help... as for now...gosh i must have clicked into IT's Only All About My Weird Proclivity To Control Manage Massage And Spend My Life On A Computer Talking About Shit I Never Experienced And Hating People Who Do Not Buy My Fantasy.
I'm sure that band is a great success and that you, let me guess, the star, and also fantastic. So why not enjoy your vast wealth fame and very many fans and do not bother with the peons. dont you have management? thanks for updating me on your act and speaking for your entire orchestra. i am humbled by the contact. thanks for leaving that anal oral image of yourself on a post. It is really quite revealing.

You are one hell of a horrible mess when you force your way into representing BV's website. It is an advertisement for silliness self promotion and nastiness unfortunately. I am not surprised to hear that a lot of oldtimers have left. I just got here and have to thank you for teaching me to take longass vacations from this site; because actually you cheapen and degrade it despite being game show trivia dudette. your thousands of friends supporters fellow oldtimers and deep fans that you pretend to represent, can similarly just scroll when they see Hopkins...I know it works. I've done the research. I've had weeks without having any trace of your sad control issues. To me you represent the sad rebel puppets that rock has degraded into; and i don't even know your music, but i'm guessing it's not even your music. I don't care sir. I mean as long as your playing your magic guitar the world is going to be safe; so don't worry about me little guy, you have a bigger job to do don't you? get into those tights and be proud of that cape...cuz you're a super man. get it? are you sniffing some kind of 'powder, man'?

More class from lil' hopkins..

seriously tho; strangers who keep picking fights with you on a website is screwy. it's not even a safe feeling. everytime a bully shows up on an electronic site it's freaky these days. even internationally....fkn weird. . i sort of regret peeking my head back in this last week or so...
...this is past the point of just an idiot; this is freaking weird. all you vast multitudes of oldtimes can maybe put a leash on your pal...
....once againj i am outta here. not just the thread the whole deal...i guess that the little pumpkin does have bully power going for him. freaking weirdo; thats whats represesnting your site...
havent joined the others. feel like throwing my computer into the ocean; for some people it's a weapon; sort of a substitute for power object if u know what i mean. freaking weird; put on a leash on your shit here people.

I'll gladly escort you out. I've NEVER seen such bully behaviour anywhere.

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Yep, those were the days. When Taylor left the band Mick said that he hoped to work together in the future. Apart from PMS and the recent tour it never came to pass.

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seriously tho; strangers who keep picking fights with you on a website is screwy. it's not even a safe feeling. everytime a bully shows up on an electronic site it's freaky these days. even internationally....fkn weird. . i sort of regret peeking my head back in this last week or so...
...this is past the point of just an idiot; this is freaking weird. all you vast multitudes of oldtimes can maybe put a leash on your pal...
....once againj i am outta here. not just the thread the whole deal...i guess that the little pumpkin does have bully power going for him. freaking weirdo; thats whats represesnting your site...
havent joined the others. feel like throwing my computer into the ocean; for some people it's a weapon; sort of a substitute for power object if u know what i mean. freaking weird; put on a leash on your shit here people.

Insults again Isn't it tiring to be so angry?

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seriously tho; strangers who keep picking fights with you on a website is screwy. it's not even a safe feeling. everytime a bully shows up on an electronic site it's freaky these days. even internationally....fkn weird. . i sort of regret peeking my head back in this last week or so...
...this is past the point of just an idiot; this is freaking weird. all you vast multitudes of oldtimes can maybe put a leash on your pal...
....once againj i am outta here. not just the thread the whole deal...i guess that the little pumpkin does have bully power going for him. freaking weirdo; thats whats represesnting your site...
havent joined the others. feel like throwing my computer into the ocean; for some people it's a weapon; sort of a substitute for power object if u know what i mean. freaking weird; put on a leash on your shit here people.

Seriously Hopkins you are over reacting, i had trouble on this site with one person last time round and it got to me, it ruined everything, so i know where you're coming from.
The trouble is this sort of forum on the internet is not good for everyone, it can exacerbate paranoia in some people, we all have some degree of paranoia inside us, even if we don't admit it.
When you are not having a ding dong with DP you are very entertaining and exciting with your posts. You certainly love your Rolling Stones.
I guess being in the Keith camp i'm one of those people who you think are spoiling things for you. All i can say is that that can't be further from the truth, it doesn't matter what camp we are in, its human nature to defend your Stone if that is who you are passionate about. I have learned that its better to take the time to explain why you defend Mick or Keith or prefer Mick or Keith for what ever reasons, rather than let someone on the other camp get to you.
Just saying dude, if it upsets you on here and its preventing your happiness then its not for you. But if like me, you learn to deal with it, and explain things better than before, its all good. This place is a bit like real life, it reflects similar emotions, music plays a big part in all that and when someone dislikes what we love its challenging, i feel like telling some posters to go fvck themselves sometimes, but at the end of the day its better to learn the discipline of explaining your views as best you can.
I hope you don't leave.



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Oh brother.

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Oh brother.

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Lol.

The Jag says to get back on topic:



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Rip this joint, gonna save your soul, round and round and round we go......

Mick Jagger - Rip This Joint - Live 1993 (Mick without The Stones)
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The Rolling Stones - Rip this Joint 1971 (The Stones without Mick)
RIP THIS JOINT EARLY 71 TAKE
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Birth Of The Chicken Dance (Mick with Chicken)
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The Transformation of MICK JAGGER (Live 3D) (Mick Looks Like A Chicken)
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Who the f*(k is Mick Jagger? (Mick Scares Working People)
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Mick Jagger - Don't Tear Me Up - Official
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he needs his band and his band needs him



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Clearly, this warning cannot be said enough: people, drink plenty of water, especially during the current heat wave! Overheating can cause serious damage to organs and the brain.

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SOLO TOGETHER; my predicted re-package; someday a marketable compilation of the best of both of them. the label and publishing deals on that one would be a kick.
One LP Two Sides. Or a CD but no so very many as to be a double; something crisp to the point as far as sequencing and selection.

Mother of a Man is pretty good. I might make the cut if I was sequencing; haha or we could make it a double with one CD being Live Tracks. God how I hate giving billionares free ideas
The temptation is always there for me wonder how it would have went down w Charlie tho; on both of their stuff; the tracks that grab me anyway; like say Memo For Turner leads it off then slams into Eileen, then Don't Tear Me Up into Trouble (and etc...) for example; I mean there's a good album if you took the (arguably) best from their entire solo outputs. Maybe a real good ONE LP. imo anyway. Tho I admit to rather wanting to cut-to-the-chase with them and always seem to end up liking the more 'stonesy' songs from their catalogs. Even the sublime Evening Gown; tho that's pretty perfect as is imo; but still Stonsey. It's got Mick and it's got country soul. It's great that one! And sure of course, it reminds me of truly great Rolling Stones. It's on a waay high level imo, 'bettering' and nailing a lot of Stones tracks. But generally speaking, certainly with exceptions along the way, I end up liking the songs from both of their solo catalogs that sound more directly 'Stonesy.'

Such a great notion. Makes me want to want to come up with a lost of cuts to use.
"Memo" of course. "Evening Gown", 'Dont Call me Up', 'Sweet Thing'. Probably 'Party Doll' and 'Just another night'. 'God Gve me Everyrthing'.
Then 'Wicked as it aseems', Take it o Hard,"Hate it when yo leave', 'Lets go Steady' or 'We Had it All'.
I got to ponder this a while, because I can already see there are way too many that I want to use.

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SOLO TOGETHER; my predicted re-package; someday a marketable compilation of the best of both of them. the label and publishing deals on that one would be a kick.
One LP Two Sides. Or a CD but no so very many as to be a double; something crisp to the point as far as sequencing and selection.

Mother of a Man is pretty good. I might make the cut if I was sequencing; haha or we could make it a double with one CD being Live Tracks. God how I hate giving billionares free ideas
The temptation is always there for me wonder how it would have went down w Charlie tho; on both of their stuff; the tracks that grab me anyway; like say Memo For Turner leads it off then slams into Eileen, then Don't Tear Me Up into Trouble (and etc...) for example; I mean there's a good album if you took the (arguably) best from their entire solo outputs. Maybe a real good ONE LP. imo anyway. Tho I admit to rather wanting to cut-to-the-chase with them and always seem to end up liking the more 'stonesy' songs from their catalogs. Even the sublime Evening Gown; tho that's pretty perfect as is imo; but still Stonsey. It's got Mick and it's got country soul. It's great that one! And sure of course, it reminds me of truly great Rolling Stones. It's on a waay high level imo, 'bettering' and nailing a lot of Stones tracks. But generally speaking, certainly with exceptions along the way, I end up liking the songs from both of their solo catalogs that sound more directly 'Stonesy.'

Such a great notion. Makes me want to want to come up with a lost of cuts to use.
"Memo" of course. "Evening Gown", 'Dont Call me Up', 'Sweet Thing'. Probably 'Party Doll' and 'Just another night'. 'God Gve me Everyrthing'.
Then 'Wicked as it aseems', Take it o Hard,"Hate it when yo leave', 'Lets go Steady' or 'We Had it All'.
I got to ponder this a while, because I can already see there are way too many that I want to use.

Was intrigued so I tried to make a playlist using your criteria: unfortunately it doesn't work!

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SOLO TOGETHER; my predicted re-package; someday a marketable compilation of the best of both of them. the label and publishing deals on that one would be a kick.
One LP Two Sides. Or a CD but no so very many as to be a double; something crisp to the point as far as sequencing and selection.

Mother of a Man is pretty good. I might make the cut if I was sequencing; haha or we could make it a double with one CD being Live Tracks. God how I hate giving billionares free ideas
The temptation is always there for me wonder how it would have went down w Charlie tho; on both of their stuff; the tracks that grab me anyway; like say Memo For Turner leads it off then slams into Eileen, then Don't Tear Me Up into Trouble (and etc...) for example; I mean there's a good album if you took the (arguably) best from their entire solo outputs. Maybe a real good ONE LP. imo anyway. Tho I admit to rather wanting to cut-to-the-chase with them and always seem to end up liking the more 'stonesy' songs from their catalogs. Even the sublime Evening Gown; tho that's pretty perfect as is imo; but still Stonsey. It's got Mick and it's got country soul. It's great that one! And sure of course, it reminds me of truly great Rolling Stones. It's on a waay high level imo, 'bettering' and nailing a lot of Stones tracks. But generally speaking, certainly with exceptions along the way, I end up liking the songs from both of their solo catalogs that sound more directly 'Stonesy.'

Such a great notion. Makes me want to want to come up with a lost of cuts to use.
"Memo" of course. "Evening Gown", 'Dont Call me Up', 'Sweet Thing'. Probably 'Party Doll' and 'Just another night'. 'God Gve me Everyrthing'.
Then 'Wicked as it aseems', Take it o Hard,"Hate it when yo leave', 'Lets go Steady' or 'We Had it All'.
I got to ponder this a while, because I can already see there are way too many that I want to use.

yeah; Take It So Hard for sure. It floats in that special almost 'off balance thing' that's inherent in a lot of his best riff sequences; it sort of set you up then slams you into it; almost unavoidably; he's done this time and time again of course; the human riff and all that....with 'Take it..." there's that great rooted set-up figure, then it swings and slams you around right into it. That's a really good track; yep that would make the cut on my try w this.
It's a stone groover; his vocals still naturally impactful; Heart full of soul on this rocking tune imo. Adore the many voices (and personalities (truly) of Mr. Mick but no fantasies on this one. Keith is the perfect vocalist for this one; I don't think Mick could do a more effective job on this one. I DO think, just for the sake of argument; that it would have been ten times better with The Stones; especially w Bill...(Billette in the house) but Charlie's swinging thump would have given this more a soul groove too imo...ha ha a Stones LP with only half Mick vocals and half Mick adding percussion or acoustcs...
would have been fun to break from the rididity of the branding and see them hang do the thang together...
....but that's an old story w them; the eternal cat-fight; sometimes fans assuming one or the other side...haha I would be Ronnie; respecting the god-like power and stylistic impact of the Keef; relishing & repsecting Mick's peculiarlarites and inclinations; and the great powered responsibility of two hours of pretty magical front work,, stage-mananged and tightly choreographed by now but still...
....it's all of 'em that makes the whole thing work...when any Stone leaves it had great, great impact. Especially if they are not really fully replaced in a soul sense, and in a masterful way. They never really replaced original Stu, the strictly speaking boogie-woogie specialist keeping them honest just by being himself. Sure Chuck plays professionally and has been there a long time; and can, forgive me, plink w the best of 'em...couldn't help myself there oops ...and can play a lot of everything and approximate the rest but...u know...not a strictly speaking deep, almost exclusively like a religion, boogie de woogie guy...
and we know Darryl is not permitted to be foundational Rolling Stone by design; fulfulling other purposes of 'bottom' line for security for Mick (my guess) and keeping things literally rooted. Bill could do that and fly at the same time. Darryl COULD probably go in any direction at all w encouragement, inclusion and allowance...but that's one of my key frustrations w them. When the bass is more integrated and foundational I can really get behind D.J....

...but point is, we shouldn't be surprised really; they have not even really replaced foundational rooted members who really affected everything with their style and direction.

Argument could be made about Wood too in that regard. He has a strictly defined support role; Taylor was all about grounding power support with mega warmth, actually singing beauty come to think of it, his lead lines were; but his complementary power as a great power-rhythm man is often overooked because he is such a stunner on slide, and other, w that Gibson.

Truly even with the arguably very best from both of their solo catalogs, would it even really be a great album, all things considered? Not sure. I loved Talk is Cheap on arrival; I was so in love with all of them for so long; but truthfully, for me and I know many here have it as a staple and I respect that; but honestly I do not listen to either of their solo catalogs; not sure why; i mean I dip in for the good stuff but....u know....like the best of each of their solo works doesn't really come to close to the excellence of several classic Stones periods imo. Not. Even. Close. IMO. so I guess it would be fair to say that all in all, in all honestly as the decades do go by, I just have incorporated neither of any of their albums into regular listening experiences. I mean I think Eileen is so damn good. I mean I totally love everything about it; well exceppt that mechanical drum-kit;

Derek Trucks is really the only guy in that bag I've ever heard who could cut M.Tayor at his own game. Why oh furricking why that guy is not in The Stones is a mystery to me. By all means keep Ronnie interested; even switch him to bass for a couple of tracks. He is one MIND BLOWING BASS GUITAR PLAYER...
...all silly fan projections I am sure but appreciate the chance to just air thi stuff out; because this kind of stuff does occur to me pretty often.
There is so much fun dynamic different loose-ass grooving combos and creative alternatives. They really don't have to keep sealing the bond with the brand...they'd probably be even more popular if they were loose as a goose, just boogie woogie children to the end...trying this and that; it could make one a trifle cynical in perspective tho; cuz haha it seems WE are more interested in their continuing legacy and the viability of what is to represent them in the future...then they are; in a quality sense; rather than a few mill a show; which is, a great I'm sure, temptation to just do enough work so that the dog ends up walking itself...goals are projected, satisfation guaranteed....was it Freddie Mercury that once ended a raving raging roaring concert by coming back up to the mike after a final bow and saying "It's been a pleasure doing business with you"




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SOLO TOGETHER; my predicted re-package; someday a marketable compilation of the best of both of them. the label and publishing deals on that one would be a kick.
One LP Two Sides. Or a CD but no so very many as to be a double; something crisp to the point as far as sequencing and selection.

Mother of a Man is pretty good. I might make the cut if I was sequencing; haha or we could make it a double with one CD being Live Tracks. God how I hate giving billionares free ideas
The temptation is always there for me wonder how it would have went down w Charlie tho; on both of their stuff; the tracks that grab me anyway; like say Memo For Turner leads it off then slams into Eileen, then Don't Tear Me Up into Trouble (and etc...) for example; I mean there's a good album if you took the (arguably) best from their entire solo outputs. Maybe a real good ONE LP. imo anyway. Tho I admit to rather wanting to cut-to-the-chase with them and always seem to end up liking the more 'stonesy' songs from their catalogs. Even the sublime Evening Gown; tho that's pretty perfect as is imo; but still Stonsey. It's got Mick and it's got country soul. It's great that one! And sure of course, it reminds me of truly great Rolling Stones. It's on a waay high level imo, 'bettering' and nailing a lot of Stones tracks. But generally speaking, certainly with exceptions along the way, I end up liking the songs from both of their solo catalogs that sound more directly 'Stonesy.'

Such a great notion. Makes me want to want to come up with a lost of cuts to use.
"Memo" of course. "Evening Gown", 'Dont Call me Up', 'Sweet Thing'. Probably 'Party Doll' and 'Just another night'. 'God Gve me Everyrthing'.
Then 'Wicked as it aseems', Take it o Hard,"Hate it when yo leave', 'Lets go Steady' or 'We Had it All'.
I got to ponder this a while, because I can already see there are way too many that I want to use.

yeah; Take It So Hard for sure. It floats in that special almost 'off balance thing' that's inherent in a lot of his best riff sequences; it sort of set you up then slams you into it; almost unavoidably; he's done this time and time again of course; the human riff and all that....with 'Take it..." there's that great rooted set-up figure, then it swings and slams you around right into it. That's a really good track; yep that would make the cut on my try w this.
It's a stone groover; his vocals still naturally impactful; Heart full of soul on this rocking tune imo. Adore the many voices (and personalities (truly) of Mr. Mick but no fantasies on this one. Keith is the perfect vocalist for this one; I don't think Mick could do a more effective job on this one. I DO think, just for the sake of argument; that it would have been ten times better with The Stones; especially w Bill...(Billette in the house) but Charlie's swinging thump would have given this more a soul groove too imo...ha ha a Stones LP with only half Mick vocals and half Mick adding percussion or acoustcs...
would have been fun to break from the rididity of the branding and see them hang do the thang together...
....but that's an old story w them; the eternal cat-fight; sometimes fans assuming one or the other side...haha I would be Ronnie; respecting the god-like power and stylistic impact of the Keef; relishing & repsecting Mick's peculiarlarites and inclinations; and the great powered responsibility of two hours of pretty magical front work,, stage-mananged and tightly choreographed by now but still...
....it's all of 'em that makes the whole thing work...when any Stone leaves it had great, great impact. Especially if they are not really fully replaced in a soul sense, and in a masterful way. They never really replaced original Stu, the strictly speaking boogie-woogie specialist keeping them honest just by being himself. Sure Chuck plays professionally and has been there a long time; and can, forgive me, plink w the best of 'em...couldn't help myself there oops ...and can play a lot of everything and approximate the rest but...u know...not a strictly speaking deep, almost exclusively like a religion, boogie de woogie guy...
and we know Darryl is not permitted to be foundational Rolling Stone by design; fulfulling other purposes of 'bottom' line for security for Mick (my guess) and keeping things literally rooted. Bill could do that and fly at the same time. Darryl COULD probably go in any direction at all w encouragement, inclusion and allowance...but that's one of my key frustrations w them. When the bass is more integrated and foundational I can really get behind D.J....

...but point is, we shouldn't be surprised really; they have not even really replaced foundational rooted members who really affected everything with their style and direction.

Argument could be made about Wood too in that regard. He has a strictly defined support role; Taylor was all about grounding power support with mega warmth, actually singing beauty come to think of it, his lead lines were; but his complementary power as a great power-rhythm man is often overooked because he is such a stunner on slide, and other, w that Gibson.

Truly even with the arguably very best from both of their solo catalogs, would it even really be a great album, all things considered? Not sure. I loved Talk is Cheap on arrival; I was so in love with all of them for so long; but truthfully, for me and I know many here have it as a staple and I respect that; but honestly I do not listen to either of their solo catalogs; not sure why; i mean I dip in for the good stuff but....u know....like the best of each of their solo works doesn't really come to close to the excellence of several classic Stones periods imo. Not. Even. Close. IMO. so I guess it would be fair to say that all in all, in all honestly as the decades do go by, I just have incorporated neither of any of their albums into regular listening experiences. I mean I think Eileen is so damn good. I mean I totally love everything about it; well exceppt that mechanical drum-kit;

Derek Trucks is really the only guy in that bag I've ever heard who could cut M.Tayor at his own game. Why oh furricking why that guy is not in The Stones is a mystery to me. By all means keep Ronnie interested; even switch him to bass for a couple of tracks. He is one MIND BLOWING BASS GUITAR PLAYER...
...all silly fan projections I am sure but appreciate the chance to just air thi stuff out; because this kind of stuff does occur to me pretty often.
There is so much fun dynamic different loose-ass grooving combos and creative alternatives. They really don't have to keep sealing the bond with the brand...they'd probably be even more popular if they were loose as a goose, just boogie woogie children to the end...trying this and that; it could make one a trifle cynical in perspective tho; cuz haha it seems WE are more interested in their continuing legacy and the viability of what is to represent them in the future...then they are; in a quality sense; rather than a few mill a show; which is, a great I'm sure, temptation to just do enough work so that the dog ends up walking itself...goals are projected, satisfation guaranteed....was it Freddie Mercury that once ended a raving raging roaring concert by coming back up to the mike after a final bow and saying "It's been a pleasure doing business with you"

Brilliant post hopkins, enjoyed that, nice to see you in a better mood today

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Derek Trucks is really the only guy in that bag I've ever heard who could cut M.Tayor at his own game. Why oh furricking why that guy is not in The Stones is a mystery to me.

Derek Trucks, you could give him a guest spot just like Jeff Beck, but apart from that, give the Stones Ron Wood like they have him for 42 already. The majority of the fans, and the Stones themselves are happy with him. R&R is a visual act as well, always has been. Very important you know.

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hopkins

Derek Trucks is really the only guy in that bag I've ever heard who could cut M.Tayor at his own game. Why oh furricking why that guy is not in The Stones is a mystery to me.

Derek Trucks, you could give him a guest spot just like Jeff Beck, but apart from that, give the Stones Ron Wood like they have him for 42 already. The majority of the fans, and the Stones themselves are happy with him. R&R is a visual act as well, always has been. Very important you know.

Not entirely sure Ronnie does much visually, he's not exactly cool or anything, he never had the moves like Keith or Pete Townsend, sound-wise is the major stumbling block with Ronnie



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Just as a detached female observation, Ronnie IS good visually, he IS cool,
and when he gets going, he bangs his hips against the guitar in a natural,
stud like Stay With Me kinda way. Stylish, etc. all the boys in the band look GOOD.