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HMS
It´s horrible! I always liked the original cover, it´s one of their best.
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GasLightStreet
No.
This would've been better but it doesn't represent the horrible production of the music like the album cover does. This would've been a false presentation.
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No.
This would've been better but it doesn't represent the horrible production of the music like the album cover does. This would've been a false presentation.
Horrible production? To each their own but I think ER sounds great!
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HMS
DW sounds great. One of their best sounding albums ever, drums, guitars, vocals -everything very clear in the mix and great sounding. Sound-wise it´s excellent no matter what one might think of the music.
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GasLightStreet
Play ER and then U, the true follow up to ER. It makes sense.
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Play ER and then U, the true follow up to ER. It makes sense.
yeah, i do love these two albums and they fit together nicely
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Play ER and then U, the true follow up to ER. It makes sense.
yeah, i do love these two albums and they fit together nicely
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GasLightStreet
Play ER and then U, the true follow up to ER. It makes sense.
yeah, i do love these two albums and they fit together nicely
I love these two albums too, but I cannot see how "they fit together nicely".
Undercover´s musical direction and production is completely different from Emotional Rescue, imo. ER is a lighthearted easy-to-listen-to album, Undercover has a much darker atmosphere, even when it comes to typical Stones-rockers a la She Was Hot or All The Way Down. Undercover is closer to Exile than to ER and not only because of It Must Be Hell.
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TheGreek
I think that what Witness is saying is that the Stones put out Some Girls in 1978 followd up by Emotional Rescue in 1980 (next came Tattoo You which was leftover tracks from previous sessions ) .Then the next new material was Undercover (which is darker in mood than the previous albums which were to me more of a PARTY atmosphere with the heavily influenced club culture from New York city days of hanging out at the likes of Studio 54 and all of that stuff .So then the Glimmer Twins are in turmoil with Keith reasserting himself in the leadership of the band after the decadent wasted days of the 70's and the infamous Toronto incident with Anita .Mick is feeling new desires with the new Colombia record deal which made a provision for a Mick solo album and you had a real battle, a war a really hostile period between the Glimmer Twins .So the writting on Undercover reflects that IMHO. Great album by the way Undercover was and a tremondous feeling as a fan of being robbed of the luxury of a live tour in support of Undercover and ditto for a tour in support of Emotional Rescue even though the Stones did tour for Tattoo you in 1981 which strictly followed the formula of a tour of every three years (in the states anyway ).Also worth mentioning of course is that Undercover was the really last album from the most Golden and fertile era of The Rolling Stones that this was the last album which they worked on together in the studio with the Twins, Charlie, Bill,and Ronnie Wood. Then after the schism between the Glimmer Twins you have Dirty Work which does have some nice cuts but this is a band that was fractured and dare i say broken because of the war between the twins and you have Keith,and his "brother" Ronnie and Charlie and when Bill would come in and then the shift change at work when Mick would come in to work on his vocals and the others were punching out of "work" So IMHO the tracks on Dirty Work reflect this , check out Had it With You and the lyrics which on the surface sound like love gone bad between a man and his lady but dig a little deeper it is all about Mick RAGING at Keith IMHO with "I love you dirty FUC%ER,You always seem to haunt me ,always try to haunt me serving out injuctions shouting out instructions, and i love you with a passion in and out of fashion always got behind you when other tried to blind you but i had it i had it had it with you ,it is such a sad thing to watch a good love die ive had it up to her babe ive got to say good bye 'cos i had it i had it i had it with you ,loved you in the lean years ,loved you in the fat ones youre a mean mistreater youre a dirty dirty rat scum i had it i had it i had it with you " (Jagger/Richards)
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TheGreek
wonderboy , Bill German has written a really good book " Under their Thumb " A really good read on this period
The mystery to know Mick's side in all of this ,i wonder if he will ever pen a tell all book ? Well at the time it was considered the next step in his career with his acting credits .I do not believe for a second that he would ever want to sabotage HIS band .I for one don't think as you said "Keith's mis-adventures affect him personally" had any bearing on his ambitions at all .I just think that Mick considered it his next logical step in his career path .To test the waters to see if he could be BIGGER than his band and then see what fruits that bore off that tree.Quote
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wonderboy , Bill German has written a really good book " Under their Thumb " A really good read on this period
Yes, I enjoyed that book. A very good look at Keith and Ronnie. ... I wish I had a better understanding of Mick's attitude at the time -- I wonder if he wanted to go solo, sabotage DW and leave the band. And how much did Keith's mis-adventures affect him personally.