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Re: The Rolling Stones Tour in Europe 2017
Posted by: spunky ()
Date: December 17, 2016 14:40

[www.triplem.com.au]
The Rolling Stones LIVE London! The Rolling Stones began playing gigs around London in 1962, the notion that a rock & roll band would last five years, let alone fifty, was an absurdity. We could be sending you to the city where it all began and you could be the first person to secure tickets to their unreleased 2017 tour…. You might even say it’s a personal invitation. The Rolling Stones 2017 tour will be completed with an authentic vinyl box set and a 5 Star Boutique hotel stay in Central London.

Re: The Rolling Stones Tour in Europe 2017
Posted by: Monsoon Ragoon ()
Date: December 17, 2016 14:43

Quote
spunky
[www.triplem.com.au]
The Rolling Stones LIVE London! The Rolling Stones began playing gigs around London in 1962, the notion that a rock & roll band would last five years, let alone fifty, was an absurdity. We could be sending you to the city where it all began and you could be the first person to secure tickets to their unreleased 2017 tour…. You might even say it’s a personal invitation. The Rolling Stones 2017 tour will be completed with an authentic vinyl box set and a 5 Star Boutique hotel stay in Central London.

Does not look like a serious offer. By the way, what is the "unreleased tour 2017"? Does anybody have a recording ;-)



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Re: The Rolling Stones Tour in Europe 2017
Posted by: spunky ()
Date: December 17, 2016 14:55

Meaby they mean that they doesn't have released the tour dates yet.

Re: The Rolling Stones Tour in Europe 2017
Posted by: chriseganstar ()
Date: December 17, 2016 15:19

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leteyer


10 City tour is what I've heard. Please don't ask who from.
Chriseganstar

Okay, who from?

Don't ever do that again..You must understand that if Mick finds out this guy's giving us info, he will never tell him anything again.
Wow, that's so funny and original, never seen that before. Thanks for reminding me why I should stick to contacting those on this board who know me personally in private.

Satisfied since 1976

Re: The Rolling Stones Tour in Europe 2017
Posted by: powerage78 ()
Date: December 17, 2016 15:34

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Monsoon Ragoon


That's something for drunk AC/DC fans. Can't believe there are negotiations with the Stones...

Contemptuous and idiot post.

***
I'm just a Bad Boy Boogie

Re: The Rolling Stones Tour in Europe 2017
Posted by: Monsoon Ragoon ()
Date: December 17, 2016 15:42

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powerage78



That's something for drunk AC/DC fans. Can't believe there are negotiations with the Stones...

Contemptuous and idiot post.

Contemptuous but (partly) true, unfortunately.



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Re: The Rolling Stones Tour in Europe 2017
Posted by: Irix ()
Date: December 17, 2016 16:00

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Monsoon Ragoon

The West German tour 2007 was a financial desaster for the promotors. If they had chosen Erfurt, the stadium would have been sold out.

2007 was a different thing because they've played already 2006 in Europe and also in Germany.

Erfurt is approx. a 2-hour-drive away from Frankfurt on Main and Erfurt is a city with only 210.000 inhabitants.

There was btw a good reason why the Computer games fair 'Gamescom' was moved from Leipzig to Cologne several years ago: population density.

And high prices in Dresden? With now hundreds of Job cuts at Global Foundries, VW Manufactory, Linde KCA and probably others?

Don't dream. The Stones need now money for their new children and are not interested in "Blühende Landschaften".



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Re: The Rolling Stones Tour in Europe 2017
Posted by: andrea66 ()
Date: December 17, 2016 16:04

There Are some starting rumours regarding a Stones concert out of the old Walls of Lucca , new spade with 50-55.000 people . June 15th

Re: The Rolling Stones Tour in Europe 2017
Posted by: Monsoon Ragoon ()
Date: December 17, 2016 16:06

Quote
Irix


The West German tour 2007 was a financial desaster for the promotors. If they had chosen Erfurt, the stadium would have been sold out.

2007 was a different thing because they've played already 2006 in Europe and also in Germany.

Erfurt is approx. a 2-hour-drive away from Frankfurt on Main and Erfurt is a city with only 210.000 inhabitants.

And high prices in Dresden? With now hundreds of Job cuts at Global Foundries, VW Manufactory, Linde KCA and probably others?

Don't dream. The Stones need now money for their new children and are not interested in "Blühende Landschaften".

That's very cynically. I only thought about what could be a success. Btw what have some 100 cut jobs to do with selling out a 50.000 or 80.000 venue. However, the Rolling Stones will probably not play in Dresden but probably not in "rich" Frankfurt as well, where they sold maybe 30.000 tickets (of 51.000) in 2007. Where the stage had to be put to the long side to make the stadium look sold out. - I would say Munich and Hamburg if there are two shows in Germany. If not, only one of these.



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Re: The Rolling Stones Tour in Europe 2017
Posted by: 1962 ()
Date: December 17, 2016 16:08

Munich!

Re: The Rolling Stones Tour in Europe 2017
Posted by: Irix ()
Date: December 17, 2016 16:25

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Monsoon Ragoon

I only thought about what could be a success.

The success is there, where the money is. winking smiley

And again: 2007 was a different thing because of 2006.

We will wait & see where they play in Germany in 2017 ....

Re: The Rolling Stones Tour in Europe 2017
Posted by: Monsoon Ragoon ()
Date: December 17, 2016 16:35

Quote
Irix


I only thought about what could be a success.

The success is there, where the money is. winking smiley

And again: 2007 was a different thing because of 2006.

We will wait & see where they play in Germany in 2017 ....

2007 was a different thing: that's true but remember 2007 was the first Frankfurt concert for 17 years, they had 1 1/2 years to sell tickets and it didn't work nevertheless. West Germany in total was oversaturated at least 9-10 years ago. Bad sales 2007 does not mean bad sales 2017. Btw Depeche Mode play two big field shows in Saxony next year, Leipzig and Dresden. AC/DC sold 150.000 tickets in Dresden 2011 and 2015. Soviel zu den Blühenden Landschaften. Es läuft wohl doch nicht so schlecht in der Zone.



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Re: The Rolling Stones Tour in Europe 2017
Posted by: Irix ()
Date: December 17, 2016 16:40

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Monsoon Ragoon

Bad sales 2007 does not mean bad sales 2017.

That's right and I've never said or meant that ....

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Monsoon Ragoon

Btw Depeche Mode play two big field shows in Saxony next year, Leipzig and Dresden. AC/DC sold 150.000 tickets in Dresden 2011 and 2015.

Yes, it may be. But the Stones are in a different class (in their own) than Depeche Mode or AC/DC.

An AC/DC Ticket was approx. EUR 89 in 2009 in Cologne while a Stones Ticket was nearly the double amount in Cologne already in 2006.



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Re: The Rolling Stones Tour in Europe 2017
Posted by: Monsoon Ragoon ()
Date: December 17, 2016 16:42

Quote
Irix


Bad sales 2007 does not mean bad sales 2017.

That's right and I've never said or meant that ....

This argument I took from you. But now it's enough, see what happens (or what does not happens).

Re: The Rolling Stones Tour in Europe 2017
Posted by: novica ()
Date: December 17, 2016 21:03

"...Glastonbury, Roskilde, Desert Trip, Rock in Rio, ... The list is long, and for this tour, I think it is easier to win the bid if the stage is there, vs the Stones have to build it...."
BV, what about Exit fest in Serbia?


Re: The Rolling Stones Tour in Europe 2017
Posted by: Green Lady ()
Date: December 17, 2016 21:19

All three headliners for the Isle of Wight Festival are now known, so it isn't that.

Re: The Rolling Stones Tour in Europe 2017
Posted by: Monsoon Ragoon ()
Date: December 17, 2016 21:30

Quote
Irix


Bad sales 2007 does not mean bad sales 2017.

That's right and I've never said or meant that ....



Btw Depeche Mode play two big field shows in Saxony next year, Leipzig and Dresden. AC/DC sold 150.000 tickets in Dresden 2011 and 2015.

Yes, it may be. But the Stones are in a different class (in their own) than Depeche Mode or AC/DC.

An AC/DC Ticket was approx. EUR 89 in 2009 in Cologne while a Stones Ticket was nearly the double amount in Cologne already in 2006.

Normal tickets nearly 180 Euro in Cologne 2006? Nonsense. Stones in a different class? I doubt it. AC/DC are of course a different class quality wise, but they sold more tickets in Germany 2015/16 than the Stones in 2006/07 at comparable prices. Commercially they sell even better than the Stones nowadays. It is hard to compare, though, because they Stones have other prices which attract less people. I think your problem is the possibility of shows in East Europe incl. East Germany.

Re: The Rolling Stones Tour in Europe 2017
Posted by: Irix ()
Date: December 17, 2016 22:26

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Monsoon Ragoon

Normal tickets nearly 180 Euro in Cologne 2006? Nonsense.

On my bank receipt for the Ticket in Cologne 2006 (not the best seat) is stated EUR 156.50 and on my Ticket from Düsseldorf 2007 (inner area) is stated EUR 188.90 .

( I would post a picture of the Ticket here but it doesn't work at the moment with the IORR-website, dunno what BV has done with his "Quote-Update". confused smiley )

In my opinion the Stones can play every day in Eastern Europe or East-Germany. But with a predicted number of 8-10 shows for whole Europe, the chances are quite low that they'll play in Dresden or Erfurt.



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Re: The Rolling Stones Tour in Europe 2017
Posted by: Milan ()
Date: December 17, 2016 22:32

Quote
novica
"...Glastonbury, Roskilde, Desert Trip, Rock in Rio, ... The list is long, and for this tour, I think it is easier to win the bid if the stage is there, vs the Stones have to build it...."
BV, what about Exit fest in Serbia?

Ti nesposobnjakovici nisu mogli ni The Who da dovedu 2010...

Re: The Rolling Stones Tour in Europe 2017
Posted by: jlowe ()
Date: December 17, 2016 22:47

Only 10 dates?
What's the minimum for it to be classed as a 'tour'?

Re: The Rolling Stones Tour in Europe 2017
Posted by: steffialicia ()
Date: December 17, 2016 22:51

Don't start with the comments please.



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Re: The Rolling Stones Tour in Europe 2017
Posted by: Nate ()
Date: December 17, 2016 23:19

Just be very grateful that the Stones are still playing shows one day in the not so distant future they won't.

Nate thumbs up

Re: The Rolling Stones Tour in Europe 2017
Date: December 17, 2016 23:22

Quote
jlowe
Only 10 dates?
What's the minimum for it to be classed as a 'tour'?

One, and lotsa travelling; )

Re: The Rolling Stones Tour in Europe 2017
Posted by: mariannerl ()
Date: December 17, 2016 23:23

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Monsoon Ragoon



Added on the rumour list:
June 3/4 2017 Rock in Vienna at Donauinsel Vienna, Austria

Isn't Rock in Vienna more of a metal fest?

The line-up in 2016: RIV 2016

That's something for drunk AC/DC fans.

Unbelievable post of yours my dear. Kopfschüttel. Headbanging. Yeahh



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Re: The Rolling Stones Tour in Europe 2017
Posted by: mariannerl ()
Date: December 18, 2016 08:51

There is this fake site, liber tickets, which shows up on facebook from time to time. They try to get people to buy tickets for not confirmed concerts. They only mention the country not a city. I wonder if people really buy such obscure offers. Interesting is the list of countries: Spain, France, Italy and Switzerland. Two of the list of BV. One rumoured also and one new

As a swiss I hope for a gig but we don't have so big stadiums. Letzigrund 42'000. Not even a festival site that is big enough (neither Greenfield or others) If they like to play on legendary festival sites maybe Paleo Nyon has this reputation but..no. And I can't imagine they build up the Dubendorf again. BUT there is money. For GNR in Zurich people sold out the pitch for over EUR 150 that"s for a GA not for FOS 1 or FOS 2. So with extreme high ticket prices it could happen. At Letzigrund Zurich omly a couple concerts (3-4) are allowed at all. We have Robbie, Depeche Mode and GNR. So another one would be possible.



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Re: The Rolling Stones Tour in Europe 2017
Posted by: Monsoon Ragoon ()
Date: December 18, 2016 11:21

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Irix
Quote
Monsoon Ragoon

Normal tickets nearly 180 Euro in Cologne 2006? Nonsense.

On my bank receipt for the Ticket in Cologne 2006 (not the best seat) is stated EUR 156.50 and on my Ticket from Düsseldorf 2007 (inner area) is stated EUR 188.90 .

( I would post a picture of the Ticket here but it doesn't work at the moment with the IORR-website, dunno what BV has done with his "Quote-Update". confused smiley )

In my opinion the Stones can play every day in Eastern Europe or East-Germany. But with a predicted number of 8-10 shows for whole Europe, the chances are quite low that they'll play in Dresden or Erfurt.

I never said they will play Dresden or Erfurt on a 10 date tour. This got a bit out of control here; initially I only mentioned that similar festivals like the rumoured one in Vienna took place at the Lausitzring 40 km North of Dresden in the past. But due to the high demand in East Germany (except Leipzig area) it would make sense. Why should they play Frankfurt for instance? Chances are nobody would turn up three years after Düsseldorf which is not very far, two hours drive. The played multiple times around Frankfurt since the Voodoo Lounge Tour.



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Re: The Rolling Stones Tour in Europe 2017
Posted by: Irix ()
Date: December 18, 2016 12:15

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Monsoon Ragoon

I never said they will play Dresden or Erfurt on a 10 date tour.

Really never said - [iorr.org] ?

At this moment it's pure speculation where the Stones will play in Germany in 2017. But with 8-10 dates for whole Europe I think too that Germany will get only one show. Frankfurt on Main or Düsseldorf doesn't make much sense if the Stones play in Nijmegen 2017.

My guess is that 2017 will be a reduced version of the European 14-on-Fire Tour. Oslo, Vienna, Paris, Nijmegen (instead of Landgraaf 2014), Barcelona (instead of Madrid 2014). Berlin Olympic Stadium would make sense - and it's quite in the middle of East-Germany. Then at least one show in Eastern Europe. Maybe the final show in London. That are already 8 Tour dates.

Re: The Rolling Stones Tour in Europe 2017
Posted by: Monsoon Ragoon ()
Date: December 18, 2016 12:26

Quote
Irix
Quote
Monsoon Ragoon

I never said they will play Dresden or Erfurt on a 10 date tour.

Really never said - [iorr.org] ?

At this moment it's pure speculation where the Stones will play in Germany in 2017. But with 8-10 dates for whole Europe I think too that Germany will get only one show. Frankfurt on Main or Düsseldorf doesn't make much sense if the Stones play in Nijmegen 2017.

My guess is that 2017 will be a reduced version of the European 14-on-Fire Tour. Oslo, Vienna, Paris, Nijmegen (instead of Landgraaf 2014), Barcelona (instead of Madrid 2014). Berlin Olympic Stadium would make sense - and it's quite in the middle of East-Germany. Then at least one show in Eastern Europe. Maybe the final show in London. That are already 8 Tour dates.

It's strange that there is still not real rumour about a German city for 2017. That shows that it is not as simple as in France where Paris has no real concurrence. Bv mentioned somewhere that there are negotiations with several German towns at the moment. Olympic Stadium Berlin? I don't think so. They booked Waldbuhne last time because they didn't sell out the stadium in the 00s. And that was only 2 1/2 years ago. It worked, though. But when there are only three German shows 2014/17 why should 2 of them be in Berlin, in the middle of the GDR so to speak?!



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Re: The Rolling Stones Tour in Europe 2017
Posted by: Irix ()
Date: December 18, 2016 12:35

Quote
Monsoon Ragoon

But when there are only three German shows 2014/17 why should 2 of them be in Berlin, in the middle of the GDR?

Due to the high demand in East-Germany as predicted by you - [iorr.org] ?

And btw there's no GDR anymore ....

Re: The Rolling Stones Tour in Europe 2017
Posted by: mailexile67 ()
Date: December 18, 2016 12:43

Italy is an highlight location...Over 70000 in Cirkus Maximus Rome, over 60000 in Milan two times in three years(2003/2006)and crowd hot hot hot!thumbs upcool smileysmileys with beer

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