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hopkins
“If the measure of greatness is to gladden the heart of every human being on the face of the earth, then he truly was the greatest. In every way he was the bravest, the kindest and the most excellent of men.”
Bob Dylan
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tatters
One of my earliest and most surreal memories of professional boxing; the fictional 1969 "super fight" between the exiled Ali, and the long-retired, toupee-wearing, 45-year-old Rocky Marciano.
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stonesrule
I LOVE the Dylan quote.
Are you all certain that he wrote this about Muhammad Ali?
The New York Times this morning printed a brilliant article by
Ishmael Reed about Ali.
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stonesrule
I LOVE the Dylan quote.
Are you all certain that he wrote this about Muhammad Ali?
The New York Times this morning printed a brilliant article by
Ishmael Reed about Ali.
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stonesrule
I LOVE the Dylan quote.
Are you all certain that he wrote this about Muhammad Ali?
The New York Times this morning printed a brilliant article by
Ishmael Reed about Ali.
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mickschix
STANLOVE, in response to your previous post ( and reply to mine): Ali must have thought if he went to Vietnam he would see ACTIVE DUTY/FIGHTING because in intrviews I've heard him say " I will not KILL those people, fight this war for this country when my people are enslaved..." that is not a direct quote but close enough. The gist of it is he DID say on many occasions when defending his decision not to serve in the armed forces, that he would not KILL those people...for a cause he did NOT believe in especially. PLUS he was a Muslum and it was against his religion. I did admire him for sticking with his beliefs. He lost a lot in doing so.
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lem motlow
you'd have to had been around back then to even begin to understand the impact of Ali-
beyond the politics and showmanship there was an unbelievable list of heavyweight wars he was involved in.
they don't have fights like that anymore,a title fight then was 15 rounds,those last 3 rounds were known as "the championship rounds" those 3 rounds were where champions were made-dead tired,out of breath,beat to a pulp and arms that felt like they weighed a ton.and guess what Joe Frazier is across from you,and he's really pissed off.
after round 12 todays fighters are in the locker room,meaning many of Ali's non-title fights would be considered a championship bout here in 2016.
and those fights were some serious friggin battles, Ernie Shavers [picture a heavyweight Marvin Hagler] Ken Norton,fights that get lost in time and forgotten but were battles as epic as any.
Just like the old saying"leave it all on the field"-Ali left it all in the ring.he paid a price but when you look at the nut's and bolts of his career he really was the greatest of all time.
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mickschix
STANLOVE, in response to your previous post ( and reply to mine): Ali must have thought if he went to Vietnam he would see ACTIVE DUTY/FIGHTING because in intrviews I've heard him say " I will not KILL those people, fight this war for this country when my people are enslaved..." that is not a direct quote but close enough. The gist of it is he DID say on many occasions when defending his decision not to serve in the armed forces, that he would not KILL those people...for a cause he did NOT believe in especially. PLUS he was a Muslum and it was against his religion. I did admire him for sticking with his beliefs. He lost a lot in doing so.
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Stoneage
To be honest, I never liked those Ali 15 rounders. That's not what professional boxing is about. It's about knocking your opponent out. Like in the old days, without gloves. Ingo once said that a good clean knockout is better than the constant beating and multiple hits on body and head. Of course Ali, like Floyd and Ingo (and numerous other boxers) suffered from dementia pugilistica (CTBI-B or CTE) in the end.
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Stoneage
To be honest, I never liked those Ali 15 rounders. That's not what professional boxing is about. It's about knocking your opponent out. Like in the old days, without gloves. Ingo once said that a good clean knockout is better than the constant beating and multiple hits on body and head. Of course Ali, like Floyd and Ingo (and numerous other boxers) suffered from dementia pugilistica (CTBI-B or CTE) in the end.