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Re: OT: EURO 2016 - Prediction game and chat
Posted by: jpasc95 ()
Date: July 8, 2016 13:47

Have a look at the picture below. Difficult to say there is no intention to touch the ball with his hand.
Don't forget to look at Giroud's funny face on the left.


Re: OT: EURO 2016 - Prediction game and chat
Posted by: Stoneage ()
Date: July 8, 2016 13:59

It was a dubious decision anyway, JP. And it settled the game. I understand, of course, that you are partial here. Nothing wrong with that. I'm neither German nor French. I think it was a doubtful penalty.
Kind of sad to have a game decided by it. But that's the way it goes sometimes. Yesterday France was on the lucky side. It could have been the other way around.

Re: OT: EURO 2016 - Prediction game and chat
Date: July 8, 2016 14:07

How can it be dubious? A deliberate hands.

It was decisive indeed. The germans were having a party in the first half, until that incident.

Re: OT: EURO 2016 - Prediction game and chat
Posted by: jpasc95 ()
Date: July 8, 2016 14:14

no Stoneage I don't agree with you. I'm not partial even if I'm French. The picture is not mine. You can easily see that Schweini stretched his arm to the ball and not the contrary so the rule is clear, it's penalty.

Don't forget there was a second goal on a French attack and I don't think that Neuer has to be blamed.

Re: OT: EURO 2016 - Prediction game and chat
Posted by: Rolling Hansie ()
Date: July 8, 2016 14:16

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jpasc95
France has always defeated Portugal in official competition except in 1996.

So, statistically Portugal should win this time smiling smiley

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Re: OT: EURO 2016 - Prediction game and chat
Posted by: Stoneage ()
Date: July 8, 2016 14:17

On another note I think Schweinsteiger is one of the most overrated players in modern football. I have never considered him a star.
And what did he add in this tournament? A missed penalty and a decisive penalty for the French...

Re: OT: EURO 2016 - Prediction game and chat
Posted by: marcovandereijk ()
Date: July 8, 2016 14:18

Why do German players stretch their arms above their heads when jumping in the air?
Boateng and Schweinsteiger both made the same mistake. Have they been playing volleyball lately?

Just as long as the guitar plays, let it steal your heart away

Re: OT: EURO 2016 - Prediction game and chat
Posted by: marcovandereijk ()
Date: July 8, 2016 14:20

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Stoneage
On another note I think Schweinsteiger is one of the most overrated players in modern football. I have never considered him a star.
And what did he add in this tournament? A missed penalty and a decisive penalty for the French...

I remember his goal against Ukrain. It was, well uhm, not so bad.

Just as long as the guitar plays, let it steal your heart away

Re: OT: EURO 2016 - Prediction game and chat
Posted by: Stoneage ()
Date: July 8, 2016 14:23

The second French goal came due to the fact that the Germans had to push forward for the equalizer. The penaly in the 47th minute in the first half decided the game.

Re: OT: EURO 2016 - Prediction game and chat
Posted by: jpasc95 ()
Date: July 8, 2016 14:31

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Rolling Hansie
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jpasc95
France has always defeated Portugal in official competition except in 1996.

So, statistically Portugal should win this time smiling smiley
LOL !
well let's say that it's not impossible
we had the same situation with Germany and we finally won, it's like the end of a malediction.

Re: OT: EURO 2016 - Prediction game and chat
Posted by: Stoneage ()
Date: July 8, 2016 14:32

Anyway, it's history now. The Germans had 48 minutes to do something about it in the second half. But didn't manage to. They seem to lack strikers.
France should be clear favorites in the final. But look out for Ronaldo and that 18 year old kid!

Re: OT: EURO 2016 - Prediction game and chat
Posted by: Rolling Hansie ()
Date: July 8, 2016 15:16

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Stoneage
look out for Ronaldo

Exactly. He usually has 2 brilliant moments in a match. That could just be enough.

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Re: OT: EURO 2016 - Prediction game and chat
Posted by: BroomWagon ()
Date: July 8, 2016 16:56

The hands call is so similar to what Boateng did against Italy. It sure makes you wonder how they could do that two straight games. That's going to be called.

Re: OT: EURO 2016 - Prediction game and chat
Posted by: BroomWagon ()
Date: July 8, 2016 17:22

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jpasc95


well Portugal's coach probably knows the blackboard below :
France has always defeated Portugal in official competition except in 1996.


Portugal will be the overwhelming underdog of course.

Portugal defeated Germany in 2000 in competitive matches but otherwise haven't fared that well either.

Portugal were embarrassed in 2014 vs. Germany, losing 4-0.

[us.soccerway.com]

But that loss started off with some sort of red card given to Pepe. Pepe would claim the German attacker dramatized his fall.

I think in yesterday's game, there are some cases where it appears the German players went down easy. I may be wrong but if folks are being critical of that penalty before half time, one might remember that.

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General comment:

Croatia was probably a better team vs. Portugal, Portugal won.

England probably lost some shootouts, '90, '96, '06. At least in one of those, England may have been the better team. That is why they have shootouts, because no one proved themselves better per the score board.

We've got the Poland Switzerland game where yes, Switzerland probably became the better team on the pitch but that was settled by penalties.

Re: OT: EURO 2016 - Prediction game and chat
Posted by: BroomWagon ()
Date: July 8, 2016 17:23

JPasc95: I know France has produced many great footballers; but sometimes people still say France is more of a rugby nation. Is that so?

Re: OT: EURO 2016 - Prediction game and chat
Posted by: jpasc95 ()
Date: July 8, 2016 18:27

BW : if you talk about football clubs, sure we're not the best, I easily admit it. England, Italy, Spain are much better. Only Marseille won the champions league (1993).
The national French team is also behind Germany and Italy in terms of prize list.
We won the world cup only once and euro twice (maybe 3 on sunday).
It's not that bad anyway.

yes French rugby clubs have better results but England is ahead, clubs and national team included. England is number 1 in Europe and already won the world cup while France never did. France is number 2 maybe.

so, difficult to answer if France is more of a rugby nation than soccer.
Soccer is still more popular than rugby in France.

Re: OT: EURO 2016 - Prediction game and chat
Posted by: marquess ()
Date: July 8, 2016 20:19

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Riffbuk
Of course that Cristiano Ronaldo is the most overated football player in the world. Just take a look at his miserable curriculum…

Club Manchester United[508]
Premier League: 2006–07, 2007–08, 2008–09
FA Cup: 2003–04
Football League Cup: 2005–06, 2008–09
FA Community Shield: 2007
UEFA Champions League: 2007–08
FIFA Club World Cup: 2008
Real Madrid[508]
La Liga: 2011–12
Copa del Rey: 2010–11, 2013–14
Supercopa de España: 2012
UEFA Champions League: 2013–14, 2015–16
UEFA Super Cup: 2014
FIFA Club World Cup: 2014
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Portugal
UEFA European Championship Runner-up: 2004
UEFA European Championship Bronze medal – third place: 2012
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FIFA Ballon d'Or: 2013,[508] 2014[509]
FIFA World Player of the Year: 2008,[510]
FIFPro World Player of the Year: 2008[511]
UEFA Best Player in Europe Award: 2014[241]
World Soccer Player of the Year: 2008, 2013, 2014
GSA Best Player of the Year: 2011, 2014[512]
Onze d'Or: 2008[513]
Bravo Award: 2004[514]
CNID Best Portuguese Athlete Abroad: 2007, 2008, 2009, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016
European Golden Shoe: 2007–08, 2010–11, 2013–14, 2014–15[508]
IFFHS World's Best Top Goal Scorer: 2013,[515] 2014[516]
IFFHS World's Best Top Division Scorer: 2014,[517] 2015
FIFA Puskás Award: 2009[518]
FIFA FIFPro World XI: 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015
UEFA Team of the Year: 2004, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015[519]
UEFA Ultimate Team of the Year[520]
ESM Team of the Year: 2006–07, 2007–08, 2010–11, 2011–12, 2012–13, 2013–14, 2014–15[521]
FIFA Club World Cup Silver Ball: 2008,[522] 2014[261][260]
UEFA Club Footballer of the Year: 2007–08[523]
UEFA Club Forward of the Year: 2007–08[520]
UEFA Champions League Team of the Season: 2013–14,[524] 2014–15,[525] 2015–16[526]
UEFA Champions League top scorer: 2007–08, 2012–13, 2013–14, 2014–15, 2015–16[520]
UEFA Euro Team of the Tournament: 2004,[527] 2012[528]
UEFA Euro All Time XI[529]
UEFA Euro Co-Top scorer: 2012[530]
Sir Matt Busby Player of the Year: 2003–04, 2006–07, 2007–08
Manchester United Players' Player of the Year: 2006–07, 2007–08
PFA Young Player of the Year: 2006–07[531]
PFA Players' Player of the Year: 2006–07, 2007–08[532]
FWA Footballer of the Year: 2006–07, 2007–08[533]
Barclays Player of the Year 2006–07,[534] 2007–08[535]
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PFA Premier League Team of the Year: 2005–06, 2006–07, 2007–08, 2008–09
Premier League Golden Boot: 2007–08[534]
Premier League 20 Seasons Awards Fantasy Team – Public[537]
Premier League 20 Seasons Awards Fantasy Team – Experts[537]
La Liga Most Valuable Player: 2012–13
La Liga Best Player: 2013–14
La Liga Best Forward: 2013–14
La Liga Best Goal: 2013–14
La Liga Fans 5 Star Player: 2014–15
Trofeo EFE Best Ibero-American Soccer Player of the Spanish League: 2012–13
Trofeo Alfredo Di Stéfano: 2011–12, 2012–13, 2013–14
La Liga Player of the Month: November 2013, May 2015
La Liga Team of the Season: 2013–14,[538] 2014–15,[539] 2015–16[540]
La Liga top scorer: 2010–11, 2013–14, 2014–15[508]
Copa del Rey top goalscorer: 2010–11[541]
BBC Overseas Sports Personality of the Year: 2014
ESPY Awards Best International Athlete: 2014[542]
GSA Best Media Attraction: 2011[512]
GSA Greatest Media Attraction: 2011[512]
GSA Fans Favorite Player : 2013[512]
Facebook FA La Liga Player of the Year: 2016
Facebook FA La Liga Best Striker: 2016
Orders
Officer of the Order of Prince Henry[543]
Medal of Merit, Order of the Immaculate Conception of Vila Viçosa (House of Bragança)[544]
Grand officer of the Order of Prince Henry[545]
Records
(As of 16 April 2016)[546]
World
The most expensive footballer in history: 2009–2013[547]
Most international goals in a calendar year: 25 (in 2012, shared with Vivian Woodward and Lionel Messi)[548]
First footballer to reach 40 goals in a professional league for two consecutive seasons[548]
Only player to score in every minute of an official football game[243]
Only player to win the League title, Domestic Cup, Domestic Supercup, Champions League, Club World Cup, League Player of the Year, Golden Shoe and Ballon d'Or at two different clubs (Manchester United and Real Madrid)[549][550]
Most appearances in the FIFPro World XI: 8 times (2007–2014) (shared with Lionel Messi)[551]
First and only player to appear in the FIFPro World XI for two different clubs.
Only player to have won more than one FIFA Club World Cup Silver Ball.[552]
Guinness World Record for Most Liked Person on Facebook: 2015[443]
Europe
Most goals scored in European competitions (club football): 96 goals[553][554][555]
Most goals scored in the UEFA Champions League: 94 goals[556]
Most goals scored in a UEFA Champions League/European Cup season: 17 goals in 2013–14[557]
Most goals scored in the UEFA Champions League group stage: 11 goals in 2015–16[285][286]
Most goals scored in UEFA Champions League knockout phase: 42 goals
Most UEFA Champions League goals scored in a calendar year: 15 goals in 2013[558]
Only player to score 15 or more UEFA Champions League goals in two different seasons: in 2013–14 and 2015–16[559]
The first player in the history of UEFA Champions League to score three hat-tricks in a single season: in 2015–16[559]
Only footballer to have won the European Golden Shoe in two different leagues: English Premier League (2007–08) and Spanish La Liga (2010–11, 2013–14, 2014–15)[560]
Most goals scored in the UEFA European Championship, including qualifying: 29 goals, for Portugal[360]
First footballer to ever score 10 goals in four consecutive UEFA Champions League seasons: 2011–12 to 2014–15[561]
Only footballer to score for two different winning teams in the European Cup: Manchester United (2007–08) and Real Madrid (2013–14)[562]
Most away goals scored in Champions League history: 42 goals[563]
Most consecutive UEFA Champions League away games scored in: 12
Most wins in the UEFA Champions League Knockout phase: 29 wins
Most braces scored in the UEFA Champions League: 20
Most European Golden Shoe awards: 4[560]
Most UEFA Team of the Year appearances: 10 times[564]
Most consecutive appearances in the UEFA Team of the Year: 9 (2007–2015)[565]
Only player to be among the finalists for all the editions of the UEFA Best Player in Europe Award: 2010–11 to 2014–15[566]
Fastest player to score 350 goals for one club (335 games)[567]
Spain
Most hat-tricks in La Liga history: 30[568]
Fastest La Liga player to score 150 league goals (140 games)[546][569]
Fastest La Liga player to score 200 league goals (178 games)[546][258]
Fastest player to reach 300 official club goals[546]
Most consecutive Clásico matches scored in: 6 matches[570]
Best scoring start in a Spanish league season: 15 goals in eight rounds[254]
Fastest footballer to score 20 league goals: 12 games (missed one game due to injury)[571]
Only player to reach 30 goals in six consecutive La Liga seasons[572]
Most teams scored against in a season (2012–13): 19 (shared with Ronaldo and Lionel Messi)[573]
Most La Liga hat-tricks in a season: 8 hat-tricks (shared with Lionel Messi)[574]
Most hat-tricks scored in all competitions: 36[546][575]
Real Madrid
Real Madrid all-time top goalscorer: 360 goals[546][576]
Top goalscorer in La Liga: 256 goals[546][577]
Fastest player to reach 50 league goals[578]
Fastest player to reach 100 league goals[579]
Fastest player to reach 200 official goals[580]
Fastest player to reach 250 official goals[546]
Most goals scored in seven consecutive league matches: 15 goals[581]
First player to score in eight consecutive matchdays[582]
Most hat-tricks in Real Madrid's history: 37[546][575]
Real Madrid Record Goalscorer in UEFA Champions League: 78 goals[546]
Real Madrid Record Goalscorer in European Competitions: 80 goals*


And then this average player has the nerve of having a incredible body , getting him some of the most beautifull ladies in the planet, this besides a incredible bank account and being the most generous sportman in the world regarding charity. John Cena comes in second place….yes he is overrated player.

And I hope that finally someone puts Portugal in their right place, i.e. whipping them and them cover them with salt! How does a team dare to come to a tournament and think more about the results then the exibithion on the pitch! How do they dare!!!


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Re: OT: EURO 2016 - Prediction game and chat
Posted by: Rolling Hansie ()
Date: July 8, 2016 23:01

LOL Riffbuk. Damn, you're good smiling smiley

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Keep On Rolling smoking smiley

Re: OT: EURO 2016 - Prediction game and chat
Posted by: Riffbuk ()
Date: July 9, 2016 00:07

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Rolling Hansie
LOL Riffbuk. Damn, you're good smiling smiley

My good friend Rolling Hansie! I do my best, but i keep some advantage from Ronaldo by being a Stones fan...

smileys with beer

Re: OT: EURO 2016 - Prediction game and chat
Posted by: BroomWagon ()
Date: July 9, 2016 02:20

Looks like someone had to set the record straight.

Re: OT: EURO 2016 - Prediction game and chat
Date: July 9, 2016 10:47

It would be a travesty if a team that has performed like Portugal has, actually wins the title. I hope France wins. They have played with spirit.
And yes - WTF is it with the Germans and the hands? Boateng was bad enough. You'd think that the first thing Low does is to schedule an emergency training session devoted only to never again jumping up with your arms raised.
And then next game...wait a minute: wasn't Boateng captain the day he did it? And then Schweinsteiger too. Hmm..

Re: OT: EURO 2016 - Prediction game and chat
Posted by: jpasc95 ()
Date: July 9, 2016 11:11

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Palace Revolution 2000
It would be a travesty if a team that has performed like Portugal has, actually wins the title. I hope France wins. They have played with spirit.
And yes - WTF is it with the Germans and the hands? Boateng was bad enough. You'd think that the first thing Low does is to schedule an emergency training session devoted only to never again jumping up with your arms raised.
And then next game...wait a minute: wasn't Boateng captain the day he did it? And then Schweinsteiger too. Hmm..
thumbs up

Re: OT: EURO 2016 - Prediction game and chat
Posted by: Come On ()
Date: July 9, 2016 12:25

A Travesty or not...PORTUGAL GO...France have enough of titles in their bag alreday...

2 1 2 0

Re: OT: EURO 2016 - Prediction game and chat
Posted by: mtaylor ()
Date: July 9, 2016 13:01

Quote
Palace Revolution 2000
It would be a travesty if a team that has performed like Portugal has, actually wins the title. I hope France wins. They have played with spirit.
And yes - WTF is it with the Germans and the hands? Boateng was bad enough. You'd think that the first thing Low does is to schedule an emergency training session devoted only to never again jumping up with your arms raised.
And then next game...wait a minute: wasn't Boateng captain the day he did it? And then Schweinsteiger too. Hmm..

Germany was missing goalscorers on the team.

If you look at the bundes-league top-scorers, does Germany have an issue with "too many foreign attackers / forwards" and therefore not good enough German attackers? Thomas Muller is the only one......

[www.eurosport.co.uk]

Re: OT: EURO 2016 - Prediction game and chat
Date: July 9, 2016 15:51

Quote
mtaylor
Quote
Palace Revolution 2000
It would be a travesty if a team that has performed like Portugal has, actually wins the title. I hope France wins. They have played with spirit.
And yes - WTF is it with the Germans and the hands? Boateng was bad enough. You'd think that the first thing Low does is to schedule an emergency training session devoted only to never again jumping up with your arms raised.
And then next game...wait a minute: wasn't Boateng captain the day he did it? And then Schweinsteiger too. Hmm..

Germany was missing goalscorers on the team.

If you look at the bundes-league top-scorers, does Germany have an issue with "too many foreign attackers / forwards" and therefore not good enough German attackers? Thomas Muller is the only one......

[www.eurosport.co.uk]

Agreed. They never replaced Klose. Mueller isn't a true #9. He can score when he has a tank in front of him; like Gomez was. I thought that the raw player talent is probably there, but Low seems to not favor that position. Schuerrle IMo could be slotted there. He has that instinct. Ozil and Goetze are midfielders.

Re: OT: EURO 2016 - Prediction game and chat
Posted by: BroomWagon ()
Date: July 10, 2016 02:26

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Come On
A Travesty or not...PORTUGAL GO...France have enough of titles in their bag alreday...

thumbs up

Every tournament, I go to the Portugoal website, fans of Portugal.

Big underdogs but I'll be cheering them on.

Per Portugal vs. France, head to head;

in '06, France win in World Cup, in '00 France win in extra time, 117th minute 2-1 in Euro; '84, France won in the Euro vs. Portugal. The two teams have drawn one time.

Total Head 2 Head: [us.soccerway.com]



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Re: OT: EURO 2016 - Prediction game and chat
Posted by: jpasc95 ()
Date: July 10, 2016 07:09

no no BW, you're wrong

in 2006, we lost against Italy in final (on penalties).
we won the world cup in 1998
we won the euro in 1984 and 2000.

"France have enough of titles in their bag alreday"
no enough is not enough !
we want a third title so let's go France !!!

Re: OT: EURO 2016 - Prediction game and chat
Posted by: Stoneage ()
Date: July 10, 2016 16:12

As an outsider here it doesn't matter to me which team wins. But since Portugal is the underdog here and has never won the EC (or the WC) I will root for them somewhat.
And they have a revenge to claim since that strange loss to Greece in the 2004 final. On the other hand I understand how important it is for France to win on homeground.
In a way I think the French nation longs for that triumph. So...

Re: OT: EURO 2016 - Prediction game and chat
Posted by: BroomWagon ()
Date: July 10, 2016 16:42

France defeated Portugal in 2006, in 2000 and 1984 in big tournament games, maybe I did not make that clear. In the knockout rounds of those tournaments.

I said France win in world cup, I did not say France win the world cup for 2006; I should have made it clearer I was talking about against Portugal.

Portugal's had it tough, they had a very good team in '66 too with Eusebio; so though I'm fairly neutral; I don't like seeing a team always lose.

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jpasc95
no no BW, you're wrong

in 2006, we lost against Italy in final (on penalties).
we won the world cup in 1998
we won the euro in 1984 and 2000.

"France have enough of titles in their bag alreday"
no enough is not enough !
we want a third title so let's go France !!!

It's hard to see Portugal winning though; it's just a shame to always see them lose and then, they have not even made many of these big trophy tournaments until recently.

Sort of like Netherlands, they are often there in the advanced stages of the tournament but often don't win, I know they did win one Euro; '88 I think.



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Re: OT: EURO 2016 - Prediction game and chat
Posted by: BroomWagon ()
Date: July 10, 2016 21:10

I'm neutral JPasc though I feel for Portugal; never winning the trophy. I'm a big fan of Les Bleus too; and watched the '86 Mexico World Cup very closely. Some tournament once the knockout rounds began.

Off-topic for a second everyone:



My Motobecane, now I ride a Motobecane Mirage and Mirage Sport even in the winter when it has been very cold. Love those older retro French bikes probably more than music or "le foot". I rode this

Forum TonTon Velo although I mainly read, it is not too hard to read French, I'd love to be able to speak it. I can speak Spanish fairly well.

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