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I agree that Lies is the only weak track. Punk by numbers. Everything else on the album is pretty great.
I love the guitars and Mick's singing on Lies. Come to think of it, I love the bass and drums, too
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I agree that Lies is the only weak track. Punk by numbers. Everything else on the album is pretty great.
I love the guitars and Mick's singing on Lies. Come to think of it, I love the bass and drums, too
You’d love a loud smelly horse fart if the Stones released it as a song but ‘Lies’ is definitely a keeper. ‘When The Whip Comes Down’ and ‘Just My Imagination’, on the other hand, are incredibly weak. Replace them with ‘Claudine’ and ‘Do You Think..’ and you’d have an album that almost lives up to its reputation – as it is Some Girls barely cracks the top 10 IMHO.
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I agree that Lies is the only weak track. Punk by numbers. Everything else on the album is pretty great.
I love the guitars and Mick's singing on Lies. Come to think of it, I love the bass and drums, too
You’d love a loud smelly horse fart if the Stones released it as a song but ‘Lies’ is definitely a keeper. ‘When The Whip Comes Down’ and ‘Just My Imagination’, on the other hand, are incredibly weak. Replace them with ‘Claudine’ and ‘Do You Think..’ and you’d have an album that almost lives up to its reputation – as it is Some Girls barely cracks the top 10 IMHO.
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Don't change anything
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I'm pretty certain that if Lies did not make the album, and instead were a b-side, that this thread would be flooded with comments to replace another track w/ Lies. It's such a powerful tune, it is a must on SG.
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and you’d have an album that almost lives up to its reputation – as it is Some Girls barely cracks the top 10 IMHO.
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I'm pretty certain that if Lies did not make the album, and instead were a b-side, that this thread would be flooded with comments to replace another track w/ Lies. It's such a powerful tune, it is a must on SG.
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Misty Roads, Yellow Cab/Do You Think I Really Care, I Can't Help It/Love You Too Much, So Young, No Spare Parts, We Had It All and Claudine are all good tunes, like many have mentioned here. However, only We Had It All is strong enough to earn a spot on SG, imo (It was a ER outtake, though). If so, that would have been to replace Far Away Eyes. That would never have happened. Far Away Eyes is awesome, and it was one of the songs they made a promo video for.
To conclude: SG is perfect as it is, imho.
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Replace Lies with Tallahassee Lassie.
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I agree that Lies is the only weak track. Punk by numbers. Everything else on the album is pretty great.
I love the guitars and Mick's singing on Lies. Come to think of it, I love the bass and drums, too
You’d love a loud smelly horse fart if the Stones released it as a song but ‘Lies’ is definitely a keeper. ‘When The Whip Comes Down’ and ‘Just My Imagination’, on the other hand, are incredibly weak. Replace them with ‘Claudine’ and ‘Do You Think..’ and you’d have an album that almost lives up to its reputation – as it is Some Girls barely cracks the top 10 IMHO.
LOL
Btw, do you care to tell us why Imagination and When The Whip Comes Down are «incredibly weak»? That's certainly an interesting view.
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....Yeah kinda like white-washing the background of the Mona Lisa
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I agree that Lies is the only weak track. Punk by numbers. Everything else on the album is pretty great.
I love the guitars and Mick's singing on Lies. Come to think of it, I love the bass and drums, too
You’d love a loud smelly horse fart if the Stones released it as a song but ‘Lies’ is definitely a keeper. ‘When The Whip Comes Down’ and ‘Just My Imagination’, on the other hand, are incredibly weak. Replace them with ‘Claudine’ and ‘Do You Think..’ and you’d have an album that almost lives up to its reputation – as it is Some Girls barely cracks the top 10 IMHO.
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Btw, do you care to tell us why Imagination and When The Whip Comes Down are «incredibly weak»? That's certainly an interesting view.
Just my Imagination is a decent cover but that’s all it is. Play it live occasionally by all means and it makes a very welcome addition to one of those live albums I never listen to but compared to say, Harlem Shuffle or Ain’t To Proud To Beg, it’s pretty bland – for my money I’d prefer an original tune (I’m talking to you, Claudine) .
When The Whip Comes Down is bland too. Songs like Whip, Respectable, and the title track aren’t catchy at all. What they have is that edginess, the Stones swagger that had been pretty much absent in the previous three albums and that’s why I think they appeal to a lot of people but again, as songs, they’re average at best.
Some Girls really is overrated. Miss You, Beast and Before They Make Me Run are monster tracks of course and anyone could be forgiven for loving this album just based on those three songs alone. Still, it makes for a very uneven record. Shattered and Faraway Eyes are good but they fall under the category of novelty/gimmicky songs – they shouldn’t be rated any higher than, say, Fingerprint File or Heaven. And the rest of the record, half of the record, is average at best. (I actually like Lies but it’s just high-energy fun - it’s hardly a classic.)
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One could always argue against individual tracks on any given album. But why should anyone want to do that?
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One could always argue against individual tracks on any given album. But why should anyone want to do that?
I’m surprised you have to ask that. We are happy to dissect, debate, subvert and reinterpret every known gesture Charlie Watts has ever made ad nauseam – that’s what we DO here. And the songs and albums receive the same treatment - that's how threads like this get started.
Btw, I hardly think the Stones had any ‘concept’ in mind when they recorded Some Girls. Mick was influenced by the club scene and Keith was still perfecting his open G riffs, same as same as. But as you say the various musical genres sit together well on Some Girls (but B&B features a fairly eclectic selection of songs too). I still feel Just My Imagination should'Ve been axed - it's no Prodigal Son IMHO.
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I'd leave both albums as the are.
I love SG.... and the out takes are themselves one of my favourite albums.
they sound like the band having a "fun day"
I just wish they were available on vinyl !
...What a great idea for a thread this was though.
With the Stones' prediliction for recycling old "proto" material for later albums, it would interesting to speculate on the results had many of the songs conceived between 69 & 71 turned up on the album the sessions were nominally aimed at.
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HANDS OFF SOME GIRLS!
I WARN YA!!!
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4.) replace title track with EVERYTHING IS TURNING TO GOLD
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HANDS OFF SOME GIRLS!
I WARN YA!!!
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4.) replace title track with EVERYTHING IS TURNING TO GOLD
Wrong! Title track is one of the best Stones songs ever, certainly in my Stones top 10! The guitar/harp interplay is amazing enough, and add the great drums/bass, and great lyrics to boot!
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HANDS OFF SOME GIRLS!
I WARN YA!!!
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4.) replace title track with EVERYTHING IS TURNING TO GOLD
Wrong! Title track is one of the best Stones songs ever, certainly in my Stones top 10! The guitar/harp interplay is amazing enough, and add the great drums/bass, and great lyrics to boot!
Leonid, when you've had a chance to sober up, we'd like to give you the chance to revise your comment about "some girls' being one of the stones 10 best songs...