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Re: The Rolling Stones Fall 2016 tour
Posted by: IGTBA ()
Date: June 20, 2016 22:39

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lem motlow
these shows most likely have nothing to do with the tour-

phillip anschutz' company's new baby is the t-mobile arena.they will soon pay the national hockey league $500 million to put a team in the arena and they are putting every act they can think of for the big 'opening season". they're most likely doing with the rolling stones the same as they did with guns and roses.

gnr did coachella and the t-mobile a couple of months ago and they weren't on tour yet,their tour didn't start until this week.

the Anschutz Entertainment Group is the new world order of the business,they control every facet of a show,they own venues-they are the promoter-they sell tickets through their own ticket outlets-AXS.

which is why you don't see some of the old faces around such as michael kohl and ticketmaster.remember when we thought ticketmaster was such a scary monster? they are a mom and pop operation compared to AEG.

the tour probably isn't completely set and may start a bit after vegas.
AEG has arenas and stadiums all over the states that the stones will be doing in the fall though,that is as close to a sure thing as you will ever see.

with the amount of money they have the negotiations were probably them handed the commander a blank check and asking him to fill in the amount,that's the kinda thing that puts the stones on the road.

Most of your points are correct regarding the span and power of AEG, but I don't think Anschutz or AEG has anything to do with the $500 million to be paid for the upcoming NHL Las Vegas franchise. Except they own half the arena, where the team will play. Bill Foley leads an investor group that will own the team and raise the money to pay the NHL. I'm sure AEG also doesn't ask any performers to fill in the amount of their fee. AEG is in business to make money - and I'm sure they negotiate well with performers, so AEG can make a good profit.



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Re: The Rolling Stones Fall 2016 tour
Posted by: Nate ()
Date: June 20, 2016 23:13

Minnesota and Kansas shows apparently will be announced soon.

Nate thumbs up

Re: The Rolling Stones Fall 2016 tour
Posted by: shattered ()
Date: June 20, 2016 23:16

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Nate
Minnesota and Kansas shows apparently will be announced soon.

Nate thumbs up

Hi Nate: Did you hear this from Ronnie?

Re: The Rolling Stones Fall 2016 tour
Date: June 20, 2016 23:53

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Nate
Minnesota and Kansas shows apparently will be announced soon.

Nate thumbs up



Wonder where in Kansas? Kansas City MO was probably the worst selling show of the Zip code tour. Luck Dips were sold in the thousands and Radio Stations couldn't give enough of them away.

You have Kansas City Kansas that has a speedway and Wichita that they did on Bigger Bang that did not sell well. Hmmmmmmmmmm



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Re: The Rolling Stones Fall 2016 tour
Posted by: lem motlow ()
Date: June 20, 2016 23:58

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IGTBA
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lem motlow
these shows most likely have nothing to do with the tour-

phillip anschutz' company's new baby is the t-mobile arena.they will soon pay the national hockey league $500 million to put a team in the arena and they are putting every act they can think of for the big 'opening season". they're most likely doing with the rolling stones the same as they did with guns and roses.

gnr did coachella and the t-mobile a couple of months ago and they weren't on tour yet,their tour didn't start until this week.

the Anschutz Entertainment Group is the new world order of the business,they control every facet of a show,they own venues-they are the promoter-they sell tickets through their own ticket outlets-AXS.

which is why you don't see some of the old faces around such as michael kohl and ticketmaster.remember when we thought ticketmaster was such a scary monster? they are a mom and pop operation compared to AEG.

the tour probably isn't completely set and may start a bit after vegas.
AEG has arenas and stadiums all over the states that the stones will be doing in the fall though,that is as close to a sure thing as you will ever see.

with the amount of money they have the negotiations were probably them handed the commander a blank check and asking him to fill in the amount,that's the kinda thing that puts the stones on the road.

Most of your points are correct regarding the span and power of AEG, but I don't think Anschutz or AEG has anything to do with the $500 million to be paid for the upcoming NHL Las Vegas franchise. Except they own half the arena, where the team will play. Bill Foley leads an investor group that will own the team and raise the money to pay the NHL. I'm sure AEG also doesn't ask any performers to fill in the amount of their fee. AEG is in business to make money - and I'm sure they negotiate well with performers, so AEG can make a good profit.


you're right about bill foley,they are considering calling the team the "black knights' the same as west point where foley graduated from.

he could pay the $500 million by himself but it wouldn't be good business for him to foot the bill by himself when aeg and mgm are sitting there with all that cash on hand,we'll see.

of course i was joking about them letting mick fill in the amount on a check,my point was if they want you,they'll get you.

.

Re: The Rolling Stones Fall 2016 tour
Posted by: sundevil ()
Date: June 21, 2016 00:28

desert storm and las vegas being apart from the tour makes sense. sounds like no billionaire private show to fill the coffers this time. hope the tour promoter is not these BS artists. $750 for the back of the arena is an insult.

Re: The Rolling Stones Fall 2016 tour
Posted by: lem motlow ()
Date: June 21, 2016 00:47

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sundevil
desert storm and las vegas being apart from the tour makes sense. sounds like no billionaire private show to fill the coffers this time. hope the tour promoter is not these BS artists. $750 for the back of the arena is an insult.

it's an insult to the stones fans from the stones themselves-the promoter has to charge these prices to cover the bands appearance fee.

garth brooks is doing 6 nights at the t-mobile and all of the tickets are $79 dollars.that's not an accident,he specifically sets the prices that way because he said he wont allow his fans to pay more of their hard earned money even if they wanted to.

that's how a person behaves who cares about the people who support their career,i love the stones.they are my favorite band of all time and i go see them on every tour and have since 1975-that doesn't blind me to the fact they are a bunch of money grubbing little pricks.

Re: The Rolling Stones Fall 2016 tour
Posted by: MisterDDDD ()
Date: June 21, 2016 01:31

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lem motlow
it's an insult to the stones fans from the stones themselves-the promoter has to charge these prices to cover the bands appearance fee.

garth brooks is doing 6 nights at the t-mobile and all of the tickets are $79 dollars.that's not an accident,he specifically sets the prices that way because he said he wont allow his fans to pay more of their hard earned money even if they wanted to.

that's how a person behaves who cares about the people who support their career,i love the stones.they are my favorite band of all time and i go see them on every tour and have since 1975-that doesn't blind me to the fact they are a bunch of money grubbing little pricks.

It's free market at work.
Garth's charging $79 and playing up the fan angle because it ultimately nets him more money by selling more tix, and he's solo.

Also- supply and demand.
The Rolling Stones have mastered "flex pricing"by selling a lot of high priced tix the scalpers used to sell, themselves. As demand fluctuates, so do the number of tickets in each price level.

I say if they can still get top dollar for back of the arena floor.. good for them! The fact that they also offer a variety of price levels starting at $75 along with $39 tix targeted exclusively for their fans also puts them ahead of ole Garth imo.


Fifty years after "Satisfaction," the Stones pocketed $37.3 million playing North American stadiums for the first time since 2007. A "flex pricing" strategy for tickets maximized grosses and minimized scalping.
[www.billboard.com]



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Re: The Rolling Stones Fall 2016 tour
Posted by: IGTBA ()
Date: June 21, 2016 03:04

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lem motlow
Quote
IGTBA
Quote
lem motlow
these shows most likely have nothing to do with the tour-

phillip anschutz' company's new baby is the t-mobile arena.they will soon pay the national hockey league $500 million to put a team in the arena and they are putting every act they can think of for the big 'opening season". they're most likely doing with the rolling stones the same as they did with guns and roses.

gnr did coachella and the t-mobile a couple of months ago and they weren't on tour yet,their tour didn't start until this week.

the Anschutz Entertainment Group is the new world order of the business,they control every facet of a show,they own venues-they are the promoter-they sell tickets through their own ticket outlets-AXS.

which is why you don't see some of the old faces around such as michael kohl and ticketmaster.remember when we thought ticketmaster was such a scary monster? they are a mom and pop operation compared to AEG.

the tour probably isn't completely set and may start a bit after vegas.
AEG has arenas and stadiums all over the states that the stones will be doing in the fall though,that is as close to a sure thing as you will ever see.

with the amount of money they have the negotiations were probably them handed the commander a blank check and asking him to fill in the amount,that's the kinda thing that puts the stones on the road.

Most of your points are correct regarding the span and power of AEG, but I don't think Anschutz or AEG has anything to do with the $500 million to be paid for the upcoming NHL Las Vegas franchise. Except they own half the arena, where the team will play. Bill Foley leads an investor group that will own the team and raise the money to pay the NHL. I'm sure AEG also doesn't ask any performers to fill in the amount of their fee. AEG is in business to make money - and I'm sure they negotiate well with performers, so AEG can make a good profit.


you're right about bill foley,they are considering calling the team the "black knights' the same as west point where foley graduated from.

he could pay the $500 million by himself but it wouldn't be good business for him to foot the bill by himself when aeg and mgm are sitting there with all that cash on hand,we'll see.

of course i was joking about them letting mick fill in the amount on a check,my point was if they want you,they'll get you.

.

Anschutz also owns Staples and the NHL LA Kings. AEG's half ownership of the T Mobile Arena is just another venue asset for him. The Maloofs are also part of Foley's group buying the Las Vegas NHL franchise. With borrowings, together they can raise the NHL's fee. AEG will benefit from having 40+ hockey games/year at the arena, most of them probably on weekdays. Most of the concerts at the arena are on weekend days, to take advantage of more visitors there then.

Apparently the Stones are so strong a draw, they don't need to perform there on weekends. Although we will see if they do a second concert on a weekday between the Desert Trips. I doubt they can pull that off at these prices. I think they either do a second concert there on the 22nd or no second concert.

Re: The Rolling Stones Fall 2016 tour
Posted by: shattered ()
Date: June 21, 2016 03:43

All of this reminds me of Cuba.

Re: The Rolling Stones Fall 2016 tour
Posted by: 751st ()
Date: June 21, 2016 09:54

Funny because I thought KC was one of the top 3 shows of last year's tour.

Re: The Rolling Stones Fall 2016 tour
Date: June 21, 2016 14:57

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751st
Funny because I thought KC was one of the top 3 shows of last year's tour.

Kansas City was a great great show. But ticket sales sucked.

Re: The Rolling Stones Fall 2016 tour
Posted by: ROLLINGSTONE ()
Date: June 21, 2016 15:05

From humble beginnings how did it ever turn in to this Gothic Monstrosity.....................

Re: The Rolling Stones Fall 2016 tour
Posted by: shattered ()
Date: June 21, 2016 16:08

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ROLLINGSTONE
From humble beginnings how did it ever turn in to this Gothic Monstrosity.....................

I noticed through the years that the Stones don't look back unless asked.

Re: The Rolling Stones Fall 2016 tour
Date: June 21, 2016 16:15

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MisterDDDD


It's free market at work.
Garth's charging $79 and playing up the fan angle because it ultimately nets him more money by selling more tix, and he's solo.

Have you talked with Mr. Brooks or his management?
Seems like a stretch with this angle.

Quote
MisterDDDD


Also- supply and demand.
The Rolling Stones have mastered "flex pricing"by selling a lot of high priced tix the scalpers used to sell, themselves. As demand fluctuates, so do the number of tickets in each price level.

So it's to maximize dollars and not get the tickets into long term fans. Easy enough to prove with receipts for our ticket purchases to get an easier shot at tickets first.

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MisterDDDD


I say if they can still get top dollar for back of the arena floor.. good for them! The fact that they also offer a variety of price levels starting at $75 along with $39 tix targeted exclusively for their fans also puts them ahead of ole Garth imo.

The $75 tickets are a joke at the trivial amounts available, The $39 LD are a crap shot in low volumes with most of the seats being in the worse locations with a few lucky folks getting upgrades. No way is any reasonable person including myself going to drop $2K in across country travel and not have an idea they can even see the stage. The first 3 price levels are obscene for any band to charge including the Stones. Find me another band touring today with those prices.

It sounds like you work for RS or AEG or both, IMO.

Thanks

Mike


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Re: The Rolling Stones Fall 2016 tour
Posted by: MisterDDDD ()
Date: June 21, 2016 17:02

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MidnightDevilRambler
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MisterDDDD
It's free market at work.
Garth's charging $79 and playing up the fan angle because it ultimately nets him more money by selling more tix, and he's solo.

Have you talked with Mr. Brooks or his management?
Seems like a stretch with this angle.

No more stretch than the other theory from someone who also didn't "talk" to him. It's called music business for a reason.

So it's to maximize dollars and not get the tickets into long term fans. Easy enough to prove with receipts for our ticket purchases to get an easier shot at tickets first.

Of course, you have to fill the seats with long term and short term fans both.. point being you have to fill the arena..again..music business
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MisterDDDD

The $75 tickets are a joke at the trivial amounts available, The $39 LD are a crap shot in low volumes with most of the seats being in the worse locations with a few lucky folks getting upgrades. No way is any reasonable person including myself going to drop $2K in across country travel and not have an idea they can even see the stage. The first 3 price levels are obscene for any band to charge including the Stones. Find me another band touring today with those prices.

It sounds like you work for RS or AEG or both, IMO.
Thanks
I also travel "across country" (and then some) to see the band, whenever I can since the seventies.Always have purchased mid to lower priced Stones tix and have always had a blast. This show I got lower bowl at third tier pricing. Perfect.

"Find me another band touring today..." may very well be your solution if inexpensive is the only criteria

Re: The Rolling Stones Fall 2016 tour
Posted by: sarahunwin ()
Date: June 21, 2016 17:50

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751st
Funny because I thought KC was one of the top 3 shows of last year's tour.

It was a fantastic show!!!

Re: The Rolling Stones Fall 2016 tour
Posted by: Gaetzi ()
Date: June 21, 2016 18:01

Odd if they really plan to play Kansas two years in a row when they haven't played Denver since 2005.

Re: The Rolling Stones Fall 2016 tour
Posted by: bye bye johnny ()
Date: June 21, 2016 18:04

There is a Kansas City in Kansas, but last year's show was in Kansas City, Missouri.

Re: The Rolling Stones Fall 2016 tour
Posted by: tomy1 ()
Date: June 21, 2016 18:12

AES has arenas in the following North American cities:

1stBANK Center
Broomfield, Colorado

AmericanAirlines Arena
Miami, Florida

AT&T Center
San Antonio, Texas


Barclays Center
Brooklyn, New York

Citizens Business Bank Arena
Ontario, California

CONSOL Energy Center
Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania


Infinite Energy Center
Duluth, Georgia

KFC YUM! Center
Louisville, Kentucky

KeyArena
Seattle, Washington

Maverik Center
West Valley, Utah

Oracle Arena
Oakland, California

Prudential Center
Newark, New Jersey


Rabobank Arena
Bakersfield, Califiornia

San Joaquin Community Hospital Ice Sports Center
Bakersfield, California

Sprint Center
Kansas City, Missouri


STAPLES Center
Los Angeles, California

Target Center
Minneapolis, Minnesota

T-Mobile Arena
Las Vegas, Nevad


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U.S. Bank Arena
Cincinnati, Ohio

Valley View Casino Center
San Diego, California

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Re: The Rolling Stones Fall 2016 tour
Posted by: spikenyc ()
Date: June 21, 2016 19:52

With todays annoucement of Exibitionism opening up in NYC in Novemember, it would seem apporiate that they will play MSG around that time to promo it.
Im sure the band will make an apperance at the NYC Exihibitionism opening, so it would make sense they play MSG or the Metro-NYC area around that time.
Actually with all the AEG talk around here, it may be Barclays in Brooklyn, which is run by AEG.

Re: The Rolling Stones Fall 2016 tour
Posted by: SomeTorontoGirl ()
Date: June 21, 2016 20:21

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spikenyc
With todays annoucement of Exibitionism opening up in NYC in Novemember, it would seem apporiate that they will play MSG around that time to promo it.
Im sure the band will make an apperance at the NYC Exihibitionism opening, so it would make sense they play MSG or the Metro-NYC area around that time.
Actually with all the AEG talk around here, it may be Barclays in Brooklyn, which is run by AEG.

If only it were so. Please note they didn't play in London when Exhibitionism opened in the spring, they just appeared ar the opening.


Re: The Rolling Stones Fall 2016 tour
Posted by: angee ()
Date: June 21, 2016 22:19

They're playing Oct. 19. We can hope.

~"Love is Strong"~

Re: The Rolling Stones Fall 2016 tour
Posted by: Montrealsuperfan ()
Date: June 21, 2016 23:15

I'm in for Vegas. Lower section 04.

At these prices it may very well be the "last time"....

Re: The Rolling Stones Fall 2016 tour
Posted by: JN99 ()
Date: June 22, 2016 00:23

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spikenyc
With todays annoucement of Exibitionism opening up in NYC in Novemember, it would seem apporiate that they will play MSG around that time to promo it.
Im sure the band will make an apperance at the NYC Exihibitionism opening, so it would make sense they play MSG or the Metro-NYC area around that time.
Actually with all the AEG talk around here, it may be Barclays in Brooklyn, which is run by AEG.

It's beginning to feel an awful lot like we'll get Desert Trip and one Vegas show and that's it. They had tons of cash thrown at them and took it to do DT then decided to add one show in a place where they can fill the venue and that will bring people in from around the country. Hope not but it's starting to seem like that might be it.

Re: The Rolling Stones Fall 2016 tour
Posted by: 35love ()
Date: June 22, 2016 00:59

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JN99
Quote
spikenyc
With todays annoucement of Exibitionism opening up in NYC in Novemember, it would seem apporiate that they will play MSG around that time to promo it.
Im sure the band will make an apperance at the NYC Exihibitionism opening, so it would make sense they play MSG or the Metro-NYC area around that time.
Actually with all the AEG talk around here, it may be Barclays in Brooklyn, which is run by AEG.

It's beginning to feel an awful lot like we'll get Desert Trip and one Vegas show and that's it. They had tons of cash thrown at them and took it to do DT then decided to add one show in a place where they can fill the venue and that will bring people in from around the country. Hope not but it's starting to seem like that might be it.

*Kinda heartbreaking.

Re: The Rolling Stones Fall 2016 tour
Posted by: ohmercy61 ()
Date: June 22, 2016 01:27

No way that's gonna be it no way!

Re: The Rolling Stones Fall 2016 tour
Posted by: sarahunwin ()
Date: June 22, 2016 01:49

BV - we need some reassurance!!!!

Re: The Rolling Stones Fall 2016 tour
Posted by: lem motlow ()
Date: June 22, 2016 01:58

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JN99
It's beginning to feel an awful lot like we'll get Desert Trip and one Vegas show and that's it. They had tons of cash thrown at them and took it to do DT then decided to add one show in a place where they can fill the venue and that will bring people in from around the country. Hope not but it's starting to seem like that might be it.


child please-


the money's on the table and the commander is getting ready to do a giant sweeping motion,the records getting finished and the stones are ready to roll-stop worrying.

Re: The Rolling Stones Fall 2016 tour
Posted by: Voodookitten76 ()
Date: June 22, 2016 02:43

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Nate
Minnesota and Kansas shows apparently will be announced soon.

Nate thumbs up

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