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I'm good with no Sunny Day
Ya, Sunny Day is insipid. I can see why the other 2 get played. DITD was his biggest hit & I think it sounds better now than it did at first. I go back & forth about The Rising. It's a pretty powerful song lyirically. When the band is "on" like they have been these first 2 shows it sounds good. Wonder why Patti was a no show. Maybe she disappeared so Bruce could go get his gentleman's club fix in Atlanta. Kind of weird routing. Going to Atlanta then back to Orlando. Might've had something to do with the NHL All Star game festivities. Looked like Bruce pulled on audible last night & decided to drop Burning Train. Aside from Rosalita he seems to be staying away from the long epic songs like Jungleland & The River.
Not the same with Jake
This is like if BV pulled the plug on this forum because the Stones tickets are high. It's kind of dumb. There were affordable Springsteen tickets available. Some of these people are delusional as to expectations. It's unrealistic to expect that front row tickets are going to cost the same as seats in the rafters. Perhaps if Bruce had done something like Lucky Dip it would've quieted the noise. He is playing arenas in the US though, not stadiums. Springsteen had 19 people onstage in Tampa & that's not even counting roadies, drivers, etc. The costs of keeping the circus on the road are high. & I'm sure Bruce is taking care of the musicians & roadies who have been with him for decades.
Reading the post & one of the posts linked re the ticket price hikes it sounds like they feel betrayed. The working class hero has let them down.
I wonder if Bruce shied away from interacting with the audience, feeling awkward in the aftermath of last year’s ticket sales fiasco and the intense repulsion that caused in the fan community.
Kind of sad to read, and overall it sounds like a terrible situation for the Boss and (most of) his followers.
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Rip this joint, gonna save your soul, round and round and round we go......
Me being no more than a casual fan of Bruce, I had never visited the Backstreets website before. Sad indeed to read an ultimatum from an obviously dedicated fan.
Fact is, Bruce has always been a famous, rich rock star, in that he is no different from Paul, Mick and a number of others in the rock aristocracy. However, the ticket prices of his concerts were always within the reachable range for the wider general public, at least. By giving a tacit approval for the bloody dynamic pricing, Bruce has fallen from the ‘people’s rocker’.
Nobody expects that front row tickets are going to cost the same as seats in the rafters. People are not that naive. Yes, there were affordable Springsteen tickets available — not in great number, though, and for a very limited time. Come the day, just a few hours into the initial ticket sales, dynamic pricing goes into action, and every remaining unremarkable seat morphs into what Ticketbastard calls ‘Official Premium Ticket’ that fetches literally thousands of bucks! To call it rip-off would be an understatement.
“Call it what you like: market pricing, dynamic pricing, surge pricing, Platinum pricing. Just don't call it The New Normal.”
( — from the Backstreets article, FREEZE-OUT Lord won't you tell us, tell us what does it mean? [www.backstreets.com] )
And yet, on show day in Atlanta, good seats were available on Ticketmaster for $59.
I’m not defending dynamic pricing as being wonderful. Far from it. But gee, 2014, The Stones in Australia, AUD$99 for a few Lucky Dip tickets to every show, ALL other tickets, from row and top of the rafters, AUD525 plus fees. Bruce in Australia, 2014, every ticket AUD$235 plus fees.
BOTH acts cost me a fortune that year!
Rod
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2023-02-05 14:03 by bitusa2012.
well, the difference is: Neither McCartney, Jagger etc. have ever build their reputation on being a 'working class hero'
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Bruce Springsteen Fanzine ‘Backstreets’ to Shut Down: ‘End of an Era’
By Michele Amabile Angermiller
February 3, 2023
In a statement to Variety, Springsteen manager Jon Landau expressed sadness over the news.
“We are very sorry to hear the news of Backstreets closing and want to thank Chris Phillips for his 30 years of dedication on behalf of Springsteen fans everywhere,” he said.
Full article > [variety.com]
I have a guess, most likely they were tickets offered with last-minute price reduction. It sometimes happens when there are a good number of tickets left unsold close to or on show day. For instance, I recently snatched up a best seat in the arena for Florence + the Machine at Glasgow OVO Hydro at £56.35 including fees one day before the gig on Ticketmaster. The price for the section I was in before the discount was introduced had been around 169 quid (and yes, price hike by dynamic pricing had been going on for this show, too).
You can’t strike it lucky often, though.
The story has picked up steam and has spread like wildfire since the news broke.
The Guardian: Bruce Springsteen fanzine Backstreets to shut down over ticket prices
Pitchfork: Bruce Springsteen Fanzine Backstreets Ending to Protest Ticket Costs
Far Out Magazine: "Disillusioned" Bruce Springsteen fanzine ‘Backstreets’ shuts down after 43 years
New Your Post: Bruce Springsteen ticket prices causes fan magazine to shutter in protest
The Daily Beast: Top Bruce Springsteen Fan Magazine to Shut Down After High Ticket Prices (DARKNESS ON THE EDGE OF FANDOM)
Deadline: Bruce Springsteen Ticket Prices Cause ‘Backstreets’ Fanzine To Shutter In Protest
Astbury Park Press (Part of the USA Today Network): Backstreets, the 'gold standard' for Bruce Springsteen fans, is shutting down
And on and on...............
_____________________________________________________________
Rip this joint, gonna save your soul, round and round and round we go......
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2023-02-06 00:53 by Hairball.
Thanks. I tuned in for a bit. Bad sound on feed tonight. Watching the Grammys. Couple of good bits on that. Not many, haha
I like Burnin' Train plenty, too.
Talk about your favorite band.
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Re: OT: Bruce Springsteen stuff
Posted by:
Elmo Lewis
()
Date: February 4, 2023 18:52
Like our boys the Stones, Bruce and the band are wonders of nature - defying age...
Great show in Atlanta - not much talk, just smoking hot playing and singing.
Great show in Atlanta - not much talk, just smoking hot playing and singing.
Re: OT: Bruce Springsteen stuff
Posted by:
Topi
()
Date: February 4, 2023 19:27
Yeah, no banter between songs or pulling up ladies to dance on stage.
And hey - no Sunny Day!
And hey - no Sunny Day!
Re: OT: Bruce Springsteen stuff
Posted by:
crholmstrom
()
Date: February 4, 2023 19:43
Quote
Topi
Yeah, no banter between songs or pulling up ladies to dance on stage.
And hey - no Sunny Day!
I'm good with no Sunny Day
Re: OT: Bruce Springsteen stuff
Posted by:
Topi
()
Date: February 4, 2023 19:51
God, I hate that song.
Could live without DITD and The Rising too, but those two just get played every night, no two ways about it.
Could live without DITD and The Rising too, but those two just get played every night, no two ways about it.
Re: OT: Bruce Springsteen stuff
Posted by:
crholmstrom
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Date: February 4, 2023 20:20
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Topi
God, I hate that song.
Could live without DITD and The Rising too, but those two just get played every night, no two ways about it.
Ya, Sunny Day is insipid. I can see why the other 2 get played. DITD was his biggest hit & I think it sounds better now than it did at first. I go back & forth about The Rising. It's a pretty powerful song lyirically. When the band is "on" like they have been these first 2 shows it sounds good. Wonder why Patti was a no show. Maybe she disappeared so Bruce could go get his gentleman's club fix in Atlanta. Kind of weird routing. Going to Atlanta then back to Orlando. Might've had something to do with the NHL All Star game festivities. Looked like Bruce pulled on audible last night & decided to drop Burning Train. Aside from Rosalita he seems to be staying away from the long epic songs like Jungleland & The River.
Re: OT: Bruce Springsteen stuff
Posted by:
Topi
()
Date: February 4, 2023 21:21
Jungleland is a rarity post-Clarence.
Re: OT: Bruce Springsteen stuff
Posted by:
crholmstrom
()
Date: February 4, 2023 21:53
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Topi
Jungleland is a rarity post-Clarence.
Not the same with Jake
Re: OT: Bruce Springsteen stuff
Posted by:
crholmstrom
()
Date: February 5, 2023 00:55
This is like if BV pulled the plug on this forum because the Stones tickets are high. It's kind of dumb. There were affordable Springsteen tickets available. Some of these people are delusional as to expectations. It's unrealistic to expect that front row tickets are going to cost the same as seats in the rafters. Perhaps if Bruce had done something like Lucky Dip it would've quieted the noise. He is playing arenas in the US though, not stadiums. Springsteen had 19 people onstage in Tampa & that's not even counting roadies, drivers, etc. The costs of keeping the circus on the road are high. & I'm sure Bruce is taking care of the musicians & roadies who have been with him for decades.
Re: OT: Bruce Springsteen stuff
Posted by:
Paddy
()
Date: February 5, 2023 03:44
Quote
crholmstrom
This is like if BV pulled the plug on this forum because the Stones tickets are high. It's kind of dumb. There were affordable Springsteen tickets available. Some of these people are delusional as to expectations. It's unrealistic to expect that front row tickets are going to cost the same as seats in the rafters. Perhaps if Bruce had done something like Lucky Dip it would've quieted the noise. He is playing arenas in the US though, not stadiums. Springsteen had 19 people onstage in Tampa & that's not even counting roadies, drivers, etc. The costs of keeping the circus on the road are high. & I'm sure Bruce is taking care of the musicians & roadies who have been with him for decades.
Reading the post & one of the posts linked re the ticket price hikes it sounds like they feel betrayed. The working class hero has let them down.
Re: OT: Bruce Springsteen stuff
Posted by:
RisingStone
()
Date: February 5, 2023 04:18
Quote
Topi
Yeah, no banter between songs or pulling up ladies to dance on stage.
I wonder if Bruce shied away from interacting with the audience, feeling awkward in the aftermath of last year’s ticket sales fiasco and the intense repulsion that caused in the fan community.
Re: OT: Bruce Springsteen stuff
Posted by:
Topi
()
Date: February 5, 2023 04:58
I think that's got more to do with Covid than shyness, really.
He did give a few high fives and handshakes but not as much as he did before.
He did give a few high fives and handshakes but not as much as he did before.
Re: OT: Bruce Springsteen stuff
Posted by:
Hairball
()
Date: February 5, 2023 05:03
Quote
PaddyQuote
crholmstrom
This is like if BV pulled the plug on this forum because the Stones tickets are high. It's kind of dumb. There were affordable Springsteen tickets available. Some of these people are delusional as to expectations. It's unrealistic to expect that front row tickets are going to cost the same as seats in the rafters. Perhaps if Bruce had done something like Lucky Dip it would've quieted the noise. He is playing arenas in the US though, not stadiums. Springsteen had 19 people onstage in Tampa & that's not even counting roadies, drivers, etc. The costs of keeping the circus on the road are high. & I'm sure Bruce is taking care of the musicians & roadies who have been with him for decades.
Reading the post & one of the posts linked re the ticket price hikes it sounds like they feel betrayed. The working class hero has let them down.
Kind of sad to read, and overall it sounds like a terrible situation for the Boss and (most of) his followers.
_____________________________________________________________
Rip this joint, gonna save your soul, round and round and round we go......
Re: OT: Bruce Springsteen stuff
Posted by:
Topi
()
Date: February 5, 2023 06:49
It will be interesting to see how he prices his US stadium shows which are rumored to take place after the summer Europe leg.
Less aggressive "dynamic pricing"? And maybe bit of a lower ATP, given the bigger venues?
Less aggressive "dynamic pricing"? And maybe bit of a lower ATP, given the bigger venues?
Re: OT: Bruce Springsteen stuff
Posted by:
RisingStone
()
Date: February 5, 2023 06:58
Quote
HairballQuote
PaddyQuote
crholmstrom
This is like if BV pulled the plug on this forum because the Stones tickets are high. It's kind of dumb. There were affordable Springsteen tickets available. Some of these people are delusional as to expectations. It's unrealistic to expect that front row tickets are going to cost the same as seats in the rafters. Perhaps if Bruce had done something like Lucky Dip it would've quieted the noise. He is playing arenas in the US though, not stadiums. Springsteen had 19 people onstage in Tampa & that's not even counting roadies, drivers, etc. The costs of keeping the circus on the road are high. & I'm sure Bruce is taking care of the musicians & roadies who have been with him for decades.
Reading the post & one of the posts linked re the ticket price hikes it sounds like they feel betrayed. The working class hero has let them down.
Kind of sad to read, and overall it sounds like a terrible situation for the Boss and (most of) his followers.
Me being no more than a casual fan of Bruce, I had never visited the Backstreets website before. Sad indeed to read an ultimatum from an obviously dedicated fan.
Fact is, Bruce has always been a famous, rich rock star, in that he is no different from Paul, Mick and a number of others in the rock aristocracy. However, the ticket prices of his concerts were always within the reachable range for the wider general public, at least. By giving a tacit approval for the bloody dynamic pricing, Bruce has fallen from the ‘people’s rocker’.
Nobody expects that front row tickets are going to cost the same as seats in the rafters. People are not that naive. Yes, there were affordable Springsteen tickets available — not in great number, though, and for a very limited time. Come the day, just a few hours into the initial ticket sales, dynamic pricing goes into action, and every remaining unremarkable seat morphs into what Ticketbastard calls ‘Official Premium Ticket’ that fetches literally thousands of bucks! To call it rip-off would be an understatement.
“Call it what you like: market pricing, dynamic pricing, surge pricing, Platinum pricing. Just don't call it The New Normal.”
( — from the Backstreets article, FREEZE-OUT Lord won't you tell us, tell us what does it mean? [www.backstreets.com] )
Re: OT: Bruce Springsteen stuff
Posted by:
Topi
()
Date: February 5, 2023 07:05
It should be noted that for a lot of Bruce shows, resellers are taking a beating. You can get in the door in places like Tulsa and Houston for like 10-15 bucks.
This obviously doesn't apply in a market such as MSG.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2023-02-05 07:06 by Topi.
This obviously doesn't apply in a market such as MSG.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2023-02-05 07:06 by Topi.
Re: OT: Bruce Springsteen stuff
Posted by:
bitusa2012
()
Date: February 5, 2023 14:02
Quote
RisingStone
…Come the day, just a few hours into the initial ticket sales, dynamic pricing goes into action, and every remaining unremarkable seat morphs into what Ticketbastard calls ‘Official Premium Ticket’ that fetches literally thousands of bucks! To call it rip-off would be an understatement.
“Call it what you like: market pricing, dynamic pricing, surge pricing, Platinum pricing. Just don't call it The New Normal.”
( — from the Backstreets article, FREEZE-OUT Lord won't you tell us, tell us what does it mean? [www.backstreets.com] )
And yet, on show day in Atlanta, good seats were available on Ticketmaster for $59.
I’m not defending dynamic pricing as being wonderful. Far from it. But gee, 2014, The Stones in Australia, AUD$99 for a few Lucky Dip tickets to every show, ALL other tickets, from row and top of the rafters, AUD525 plus fees. Bruce in Australia, 2014, every ticket AUD$235 plus fees.
BOTH acts cost me a fortune that year!
Rod
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2023-02-05 14:03 by bitusa2012.
Re: OT: Bruce Springsteen stuff
Posted by:
Elmo Lewis
()
Date: February 5, 2023 14:32
Yes, ticket prices were high, but I feel I got my money's worth.
Like the Stones, I would tweak the setlist a little. That said, we got "Darlington" and "Thunder" in Atlanta - an improvement over Tampa.
Still one of the best live performers out there. And we're really getting low on the classic rockers of the rock and roll era. Go if ya get a chance.
Like the Stones, I would tweak the setlist a little. That said, we got "Darlington" and "Thunder" in Atlanta - an improvement over Tampa.
Still one of the best live performers out there. And we're really getting low on the classic rockers of the rock and roll era. Go if ya get a chance.
Re: OT: Bruce Springsteen stuff
Posted by:
slewan
()
Date: February 5, 2023 14:33
Quote
RisingStone
(…)
Fact is, Bruce has always been a famous, rich rock star, in that he is no different from Paul, Mick and a number of others in the rock aristocracy.
(…)
well, the difference is: Neither McCartney, Jagger etc. have ever build their reputation on being a 'working class hero'
Re: OT: Bruce Springsteen stuff
Posted by:
Topi
()
Date: February 5, 2023 15:16
But he's still running Bruce Inc.
OT: Bruce Springsteen stuff
Posted by:
bye bye johnny
()
Date: February 5, 2023 20:19
Quote
bye bye johnny
Christopher Phillips, Publisher & Editor-in-Chief of the long running fan site Backstreets.com has announced the website is shutting down.
[www.backstreets.com]
--
Bruce Springsteen Fanzine ‘Backstreets’ to Shut Down: ‘End of an Era’
By Michele Amabile Angermiller
February 3, 2023
In a statement to Variety, Springsteen manager Jon Landau expressed sadness over the news.
“We are very sorry to hear the news of Backstreets closing and want to thank Chris Phillips for his 30 years of dedication on behalf of Springsteen fans everywhere,” he said.
Full article > [variety.com]
Re: OT: Bruce Springsteen stuff
Posted by:
RisingStone
()
Date: February 5, 2023 21:22
Quote
bitusa2012
And yet, on show day in Atlanta, good seats were available on Ticketmaster for $59.
I have a guess, most likely they were tickets offered with last-minute price reduction. It sometimes happens when there are a good number of tickets left unsold close to or on show day. For instance, I recently snatched up a best seat in the arena for Florence + the Machine at Glasgow OVO Hydro at £56.35 including fees one day before the gig on Ticketmaster. The price for the section I was in before the discount was introduced had been around 169 quid (and yes, price hike by dynamic pricing had been going on for this show, too).
You can’t strike it lucky often, though.
Re: OT: Bruce Springsteen stuff
Posted by:
Hairball
()
Date: February 6, 2023 00:52
The story has picked up steam and has spread like wildfire since the news broke.
The Guardian: Bruce Springsteen fanzine Backstreets to shut down over ticket prices
Pitchfork: Bruce Springsteen Fanzine Backstreets Ending to Protest Ticket Costs
Far Out Magazine: "Disillusioned" Bruce Springsteen fanzine ‘Backstreets’ shuts down after 43 years
New Your Post: Bruce Springsteen ticket prices causes fan magazine to shutter in protest
The Daily Beast: Top Bruce Springsteen Fan Magazine to Shut Down After High Ticket Prices (DARKNESS ON THE EDGE OF FANDOM)
Deadline: Bruce Springsteen Ticket Prices Cause ‘Backstreets’ Fanzine To Shutter In Protest
Astbury Park Press (Part of the USA Today Network): Backstreets, the 'gold standard' for Bruce Springsteen fans, is shutting down
And on and on...............
_____________________________________________________________
Rip this joint, gonna save your soul, round and round and round we go......
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2023-02-06 00:53 by Hairball.
Re: OT: Bruce Springsteen stuff
Posted by:
RisingStone
()
Date: February 6, 2023 01:31
“Et tu, Bruce?”
Re: OT: Bruce Springsteen stuff
Posted by:
Topi
()
Date: February 6, 2023 04:02
Orlando live stream:
[www.facebook.com]
No setlist changes so far.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2023-02-06 04:31 by Topi.
[www.facebook.com]
No setlist changes so far.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2023-02-06 04:31 by Topi.
Re: OT: Bruce Springsteen stuff
Posted by:
crholmstrom
()
Date: February 6, 2023 04:45
Thanks. I tuned in for a bit. Bad sound on feed tonight. Watching the Grammys. Couple of good bits on that. Not many, haha
Re: OT: Bruce Springsteen stuff
Posted by:
Topi
()
Date: February 6, 2023 04:57
Glad Burnin' Train made it back in.
He's going through this set in a rush. Barely takes a breath between songs.
He's going through this set in a rush. Barely takes a breath between songs.
Re: OT: Bruce Springsteen stuff
Posted by:
crholmstrom
()
Date: February 6, 2023 05:13
Quote
Topi
Glad Burnin' Train made it back in.
He's going through this set in a rush. Barely takes a breath between songs.
I like Burnin' Train plenty, too.
Re: OT: Bruce Springsteen stuff
Posted by:
Topi
()
Date: February 6, 2023 05:44
It's gotta be my favorite out of Letter To You, which is a solid album by the way.
Re: OT: Bruce Springsteen stuff
Posted by:
crholmstrom
()
Date: February 6, 2023 06:37
Quote
Topi
It's gotta be my favorite out of Letter To You, which is a solid album by the way.
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