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bakersfield
I think that level of pricing is disgusting. I know the world has changed since i bought Springsteen seats in Sheffield for £17.50 in back in '88..... but it hasn't changed THAT much!
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Angus MacBagpipe
Bruce’s complete silence on this sh*t-show and the upset it has caused his long-time fans is probably the most disturbing aspect. $800 broadway tickets, Jeep ads, hanging out with politicians, $500 million catalog sale, and now this. What a sad way to end a career.
It's not he has an elaborate stage/light show. It's been close to the same since the late 70s basically. With Roger Waters for instance you can see where the money goes in the production. I still would like to go but not at any cost.
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TheGreek
Not a fan of Ticketmaster at all , but they are the scape goat in this as this was all designed and signed off by Bruce . Proof is in the silence from Bruce . Why not set the record straight and own up to it . Bruce could have a top 10 list of reasons why he is doing this . Or is he staying silent in anticipation of the tour start that due to lacking demand that the tickets prices come back down to earth . Or else he will be seeing empty seats which is hard to imagine . Same as on Stones tours as tickets and prices drop closer to show time . Putting the squeeze on the scalper . I would say is pretty ingenious and Bruce figures why should the scalper get the money from my labor ?
The seats won't be empty in the end - the question is just how much can Ticketmaster gouge for them. It's about the average ticket price. They don't realistically expect to sell a seat for 5000 dollars, but if they flex it down to, say, 800-900 dollars, some fool might bite. "Hey, look, that $5000 seat is down to $900 now, I better act on it!"
That's what they're after, squeezing as much as possible out of the buyers.
If the Platinum prices don't sell, they'll just flex them back down to face value/Standard Admission price and the people will come running as it looks like they're getting a good deal.
As you said, it's very much like what happened with Stones tickets.
The prices will drop closer to show time in most markets. Maybe not so much in a place like MSG.
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Bruce’s complete silence on this sh*t-show and the upset it has caused his long-time fans is probably the most disturbing aspect. $800 broadway tickets, Jeep ads, hanging out with politicians, $500 million catalog sale, and now this. What a sad way to end a career.
It's not he has an elaborate stage/light show. It's been close to the same since the late 70s basically. With Roger Waters for instance you can see where the money goes in the production. I still would like to go but not at any cost.
My thoughts exactly. And you knew what you were paying for at the Steel Wheels and Bridges tours. Bruce has had the same basic stage for over 30 years.
I did luck out this morning however and got two decent seats for Seattle at the normal price in under 8 minutes. No way I was buying any ridiculous resales or “premium” seats.
Wow that's cruel. People buying the gold category to be in front of the stage and then they just change it so that gold is behind diamond. It that even legal? Normally I don't think so but damn sure they had some disclaimer in the fine print ("Layout subject to change at any time" or some stuff like that)Quote
Topi
Regarding the Hyde Park show, guess what they did? (After stating that both shows are sellouts)
They now changed the BST Hyde Park layout so only "Diamond" is the front of stage area. Golden Circle is behind it.
Check the updated BST website here and scroll all the way down.
When the tickets first went on sale, this was not the map at all! In fact, Golden Circle had a bigger portion of the front of stage area than Diamond did!
This is the new map:
This was the old map, in place when the tickets were on sale:
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bye bye johnny
Bruce guesting with Bleachers - Radio City Music Hall, July 26:
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NashvilleBlues
Bruce should've scheduled another show in the South. Atlanta sold out quickly. I checked a week later, and TM released more tickets (lowest was $675), essentially scalping their own tickets. Let the show "sell out," then a week later, release more tickets, not at regular price, but VIP prices. Not new, but sleazy, nevertheless.
Man, would living back in Oklahoma help in instances like these. I think they still have face value Pearl Jam and Bruce tickets. Both sold out almost immediately in the south (PJ-Nashville and Bruce-Atlanta).
The TM/LiveNation monopoly is gross. Why hasn't another group started up to combat TM/LN and start a competition?
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NashvilleBlues
Bruce should've scheduled another show in the South. Atlanta sold out quickly. I checked a week later, and TM released more tickets (lowest was $675), essentially scalping their own tickets. Let the show "sell out," then a week later, release more tickets, not at regular price, but VIP prices. Not new, but sleazy, nevertheless.
Man, would living back in Oklahoma help in instances like these. I think they still have face value Pearl Jam and Bruce tickets. Both sold out almost immediately in the south (PJ-Nashville and Bruce-Atlanta).
The TM/LiveNation monopoly is gross. Why hasn't another group started up to combat TM/LN and start a competition?
Still plenty of small indie promoters and ticketing companies.
AEG/Goldenvoice and AXS tickets is the main competitor. They have their own venues and ticketing and often produce entire tours (Roger Waters is an example). But when you realize their real customers are the acts and venues you know it's not going to be any better.
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StonedRambler
For Bruce Springsteen who always presented himself as the speaker of the working class this whole thing could get quite dangerous for him if he indeed agreed on all that.
As for the Stones, nobody is suprised about them being greedy bastards, they never claimed the opposite, they love making big money with this tours (even if it's always said the promoters make the prices and not the band).
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NashvilleBlues
Bruce should've scheduled another show in the South. Atlanta sold out quickly. I checked a week later, and TM released more tickets (lowest was $675), essentially scalping their own tickets. Let the show "sell out," then a week later, release more tickets, not at regular price, but VIP prices. Not new, but sleazy, nevertheless.
Man, would living back in Oklahoma help in instances like these. I think they still have face value Pearl Jam and Bruce tickets. Both sold out almost immediately in the south (PJ-Nashville and Bruce-Atlanta).
The TM/LiveNation monopoly is gross. Why hasn't another group started up to combat TM/LN and start a competition?
Still plenty of small indie promoters and ticketing companies.
AEG/Goldenvoice and AXS tickets is the main competitor. They have their own venues and ticketing and often produce entire tours (Roger Waters is an example). But when you realize their real customers are the acts and venues you know it's not going to be any better.
AXS is no better & a lot of times their tickets come via Ticketmaster. Don't know about AEG.
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NashvilleBlues
Bruce should've scheduled another show in the South. Atlanta sold out quickly. I checked a week later, and TM released more tickets (lowest was $675), essentially scalping their own tickets. Let the show "sell out," then a week later, release more tickets, not at regular price, but VIP prices. Not new, but sleazy, nevertheless.
Man, would living back in Oklahoma help in instances like these. I think they still have face value Pearl Jam and Bruce tickets. Both sold out almost immediately in the south (PJ-Nashville and Bruce-Atlanta).
The TM/LiveNation monopoly is gross. Why hasn't another group started up to combat TM/LN and start a competition?
Still plenty of small indie promoters and ticketing companies.
AEG/Goldenvoice and AXS tickets is the main competitor. They have their own venues and ticketing and often produce entire tours (Roger Waters is an example). But when you realize their real customers are the acts and venues you know it's not going to be any better.
AXS is no better & a lot of times their tickets come via Ticketmaster. Don't know about AEG.
AEG is a mega promoter and AXS is their proprietary ticketing system, unaffiliated with Ticketmaster.
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NashvilleBlues
Bruce should've scheduled another show in the South. Atlanta sold out quickly. I checked a week later, and TM released more tickets (lowest was $675), essentially scalping their own tickets. Let the show "sell out," then a week later, release more tickets, not at regular price, but VIP prices. Not new, but sleazy, nevertheless.
Man, would living back in Oklahoma help in instances like these. I think they still have face value Pearl Jam and Bruce tickets. Both sold out almost immediately in the south (PJ-Nashville and Bruce-Atlanta).
The TM/LiveNation monopoly is gross. Why hasn't another group started up to combat TM/LN and start a competition?
Still plenty of small indie promoters and ticketing companies.
AEG/Goldenvoice and AXS tickets is the main competitor. They have their own venues and ticketing and often produce entire tours (Roger Waters is an example). But when you realize their real customers are the acts and venues you know it's not going to be any better.
AXS is no better & a lot of times their tickets come via Ticketmaster. Don't know about AEG.
AEG is a mega promoter and AXS is their proprietary ticketing system, unaffiliated with Ticketmaster.
I bought my Roger Waters ticket (face value) through Ticketmaster. However, I bought my Blondie/The Damned ticket entirely through AXS. Odd.