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They did do some work to get it so down and dirty -Keith overdubbed his guitar on the choruses (Oh yeah!) and the solo. Listen with headphones and you can hear the change of sound and he changes to open D.
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Not hearing open D in use.
Same.
Not hearing it either.
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And listen to the change in sound (especially how the chords ring) round the 0:12-mark.. I'd say open E.
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They did do some work to get it so down and dirty -Keith overdubbed his guitar on the choruses (Oh yeah!) and the solo. Listen with headphones and you can hear the change of sound and he changes to open D.
Mathijs
Not hearing open D in use.
Same.
Not hearing it either.
More in this thread.
And listen to the change in sound (especially how the chords ring) round the 0:12-mark.. I'd say open E.
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Concerning another overdub I think there is: on Love in Vain, after the Taylor solo it seems that Richards is going out of tune. There is a second rhythm guitar in the middle of the stereo spectrum, at around 3:30 to 3:40. Its really low in volume, but it is there.
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They did do some work to get it so down and dirty -Keith overdubbed his guitar on the choruses (Oh yeah!) and the solo. Listen with headphones and you can hear the change of sound and he changes to open D.
Mathijs
Not hearing open D in use.
Same.
Not hearing it either.
More in this thread.
And listen to the change in sound (especially how the chords ring) round the 0:12-mark.. I'd say open E.
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IMO you guys are getting weighed down by too much technical talk. Listen to the actual playing - that is not how Keith R played in Open Tuning in those years.
And I hear the swell in sound going INTO the chorus, but that is easily explained; and duplicated. Listen to it coming out of the chorus. That is the same guitar going back into the verse. Even on Dandy's quoted Youtube example. Plenty there at 0:41
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They did do some work to get it so down and dirty -Keith overdubbed his guitar on the choruses (Oh yeah!) and the solo. Listen with headphones and you can hear the change of sound and he changes to open D.
Mathijs
Not hearing open D in use.
Same.
Not hearing it either.
More in this thread.
And listen to the change in sound (especially how the chords ring) round the 0:12-mark.. I'd say open E.
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IMO you guys are getting weighed down by too much technical talk. Listen to the actual playing - that is not how Keith R played in Open Tuning in those years.
And I hear the swell in sound going INTO the chorus, but that is easily explained; and duplicated. Listen to it coming out of the chorus. That is the same guitar going back into the verse. Even on Dandy's quoted Youtube example. Plenty there at 0:41
Point is that playing in open E generates the same power chords as in standard tuning. So either it is an overdub in open E or standard tuning or Keith edited the sound in the studio a bit. Difficult to figure out everything for sure to me.
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He used it for power chords on electric guitar on that very song in the studio.
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He used it for power chords on electric guitar on that very song in the studio.
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Concerning another overdub I think there is: on Love in Vain, after the Taylor solo it seems that Richards is going out of tune. There is a second rhythm guitar in the middle of the stereo spectrum, at around 3:30 to 3:40. Its really low in volume, but it is there.
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Jesus! You are a freak.
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He used it for power chords on electric guitar on that very song in the studio.
And that's exactly what I think he did: overdub the same part and style as on the studio version.
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it does seems strange though?
anyway...will we ever know??
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it does seems strange though?
anyway...will we ever know??
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He used it for power chords on electric guitar on that very song in the studio.
And that's exactly what I think he did: overdub the same part and style as on the studio version.
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But, played rather differently.
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Point is that playing in open E generates the same power chords as in standard tuning. So either it is an overdub in open E or standard tuning or Keith edited the sound in the studio a bit. Difficult to figure out everything for sure to me.
I hear what you're saying. But isn't it kind of non-sensical for Keith to do it this way? First off, I don't agree that there was an O/d at all; but let's say there was. When Keith played in Open D/E in those years, he did not use it for power chords on electric guitar. And he is also producing a LIVE album. Now if he feels that some parts need touching up, or a boost - would he not try to make it sound like one performance from the stage? Why on earth would he decide to come in a different tuning?
I think we can assume that thoes verses are in standard tuning.
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Point is that playing in open E generates the same power chords as in standard tuning. So either it is an overdub in open E or standard tuning or Keith edited the sound in the studio a bit. Difficult to figure out everything for sure to me.
I hear what you're saying. But isn't it kind of non-sensical for Keith to do it this way? First off, I don't agree that there was an O/d at all; but let's say there was. When Keith played in Open D/E in those years, he did not use it for power chords on electric guitar. And he is also producing a LIVE album. Now if he feels that some parts need touching up, or a boost - would he not try to make it sound like one performance from the stage? Why on earth would he decide to come in a different tuning?
I think we can assume that thoes verses are in standard tuning.
There are two verses with Taylor soloing. The verse that Mathijs is referring to (first solo) could very well be Keith in open E, during the second solo it could be Keith (in standard tuning ?) -playing powerchords as well, but it sounds slightly different.This could be proof for the open E overdub during Taylor's first solo. Not entirely sure. Keith stated in an interview that there are 6 or 7 guitars/ overdubs on certain tracks, "but you wouldn't even notice it".
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Point is that playing in open E generates the same power chords as in standard tuning. So either it is an overdub in open E or standard tuning or Keith edited the sound in the studio a bit. Difficult to figure out everything for sure to me.
I hear what you're saying. But isn't it kind of non-sensical for Keith to do it this way? First off, I don't agree that there was an O/d at all; but let's say there was. When Keith played in Open D/E in those years, he did not use it for power chords on electric guitar. And he is also producing a LIVE album. Now if he feels that some parts need touching up, or a boost - would he not try to make it sound like one performance from the stage? Why on earth would he decide to come in a different tuning?
I think we can assume that thoes verses are in standard tuning.
There are two verses with Taylor soloing. The verse that Mathijs is referring to (first solo) could very well be Keith in open E, during the second solo it could be Keith (in standard tuning ?) -playing powerchords as well, but it sounds slightly different.This could be proof for the open E overdub during Taylor's first solo. Not entirely sure. Keith stated in an interview that there are 6 or 7 guitars/ overdubs on certain tracks, "but you wouldn't even notice it".
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Point is that playing in open E generates the same power chords as in standard tuning. So either it is an overdub in open E or standard tuning or Keith edited the sound in the studio a bit. Difficult to figure out everything for sure to me.
I hear what you're saying. But isn't it kind of non-sensical for Keith to do it this way? First off, I don't agree that there was an O/d at all; but let's say there was. When Keith played in Open D/E in those years, he did not use it for power chords on electric guitar. And he is also producing a LIVE album. Now if he feels that some parts need touching up, or a boost - would he not try to make it sound like one performance from the stage? Why on earth would he decide to come in a different tuning?
I think we can assume that thoes verses are in standard tuning.
There are two verses with Taylor soloing. The verse that Mathijs is referring to (first solo) could very well be Keith in open E, during the second solo it could be Keith (in standard tuning ?) -playing powerchords as well, but it sounds slightly different.This could be proof for the open E overdub during Taylor's first solo. Not entirely sure. Keith stated in an interview that there are 6 or 7 guitars/ overdubs on certain tracks, "but you wouldn't even notice it".
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@ Palace, is there a raw version of SCB (yaya's)that we are discussing here? That could settle it straight away.