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If I should compare, though, I'd say that JJF, LIV, SFM are superior on the their respective studio albums.
What was JJF's studio album??? ;-)
Through The Past, Darkly?
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Live Stray Cat Blues better than studio version? Super lolz.
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Needless to compare Live to Studio, In the studio you can experiment for months and release when you reached your goal. Live you rehearse first and then deliver on the spot. Different approach, artistically.
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Needless to compare Live to Studio, In the studio you can experiment for months and release when you reached your goal. Live you rehearse first and then deliver on the spot. Different approach, artistically.
But even Keith has said at times that the songs get better when played live. So that's why the comparison. Especially when something turns out so different, like the various live versions of JJF, SFTD, YCAGWYW, SFM, Under My Thumb, a few others.
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And to this day if someone asks me for my favorite electric guitar ever, it is Keith behind Taylor in this song's guitar solo segment. The solo on the Gibson is great enough, but Keith chopping away back there with only style, technique and volume is the bee's knees. you can take all your fuzz boxes and tube screamers, but this particular sound is all balls.
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It's all subjective so no need for any angst about it.
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Yaya's is a "Frankenstein" product, HM. Angst? I'm scared to death.
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They did do some work to get it so down and dirty -Keith overdubbed his guitar on the choruses (Oh yeah!) and the solo. Listen with headphones and you can hear the change of sound and he changes to open D.
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They did do some work to get it so down and dirty -Keith overdubbed his guitar on the choruses (Oh yeah!) and the solo. Listen with headphones and you can hear the change of sound and he changes to open D.
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Not hearing open D in use.
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They did do some work to get it so down and dirty -Keith overdubbed his guitar on the choruses (Oh yeah!) and the solo. Listen with headphones and you can hear the change of sound and he changes to open D.
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Not hearing open D in use.
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They did do some work to get it so down and dirty -Keith overdubbed his guitar on the choruses (Oh yeah!) and the solo. Listen with headphones and you can hear the change of sound and he changes to open D.
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Not hearing open D in use.
I don't hear it either. What amazes me though is how they (Richards and Taylor) got that heavy distorted guitar sound. On the MSG footage they go straight into the ampegs. SCB starts clean and ends up almost "heavy metal", soundwise.
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They did do some work to get it so down and dirty -Keith overdubbed his guitar on the choruses (Oh yeah!) and the solo. Listen with headphones and you can hear the change of sound and he changes to open D.
Mathijs
Not hearing open D in use.
I don't hear it either. What amazes me though is how they (Richards and Taylor) got that heavy distorted guitar sound. On the MSG footage they go straight into the ampegs. SCB starts clean and ends up almost "heavy metal", soundwise.
They turn up their guitar volume.
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Needless to compare Live to Studio, In the studio you can experiment for months and release when you reached your goal. Live you rehearse first and then deliver on the spot. Different approach, artistically.
But even Keith has said at times that the songs get better when played live. So that's why the comparison. Especially when something turns out so different, like the various live versions of JJF, SFTD, YCAGWYW, SFM, Under My Thumb, a few others.
Comparing live vs studio is totally valid and worthwhile, but just because something turns out different doesn't necessarily means that it's better, and just because Keith said at times the songs get better when played live doesn't necessarily mean they are. Maybe to him they are, but isn't better or worse subjective and all a matter of personal opinion? While there are many great variations and live versions of the songs you mention, I would still say the studio versions are the ultimate superior versions (deja vu as I think we've been down this path not too long ago ha). And for proper context, Keith said that quote when discussing the On Air release and all of those early tunes they used to play. Some might have been recorded badly with primitive tools in a sterile studio setting without much of their input, but when they had the chance to unleash them live, they became "better" according to him. Not sure if he's ever talked about later songs getting "better" in a live setting, but sounds like something he might say about all Stones songs.
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They did do some work to get it so down and dirty -Keith overdubbed his guitar on the choruses (Oh yeah!) and the solo. Listen with headphones and you can hear the change of sound and he changes to open D.
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Not hearing open D in use.
I don't hear it either. What amazes me though is how they (Richards and Taylor) got that heavy distorted guitar sound. On the MSG footage they go straight into the ampegs. SCB starts clean and ends up almost "heavy metal", soundwise.
They turn up their guitar volume.
To that degree? I remember cranking up my Ampeg vt22 at the time to 9, using a Les Paul with EMG pickups and it still was almost clean, had to use a TS to get significant distortion.
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They did do some work to get it so down and dirty -Keith overdubbed his guitar on the choruses (Oh yeah!) and the solo. Listen with headphones and you can hear the change of sound and he changes to open D.
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Not hearing open D in use.
I don't hear it either. What amazes me though is how they (Richards and Taylor) got that heavy distorted guitar sound. On the MSG footage they go straight into the ampegs. SCB starts clean and ends up almost "heavy metal", soundwise.
They turn up their guitar volume.
To that degree? I remember cranking up my Ampeg vt22 at the time to 9, using a Les Paul with EMG pickups and it still was almost clean, had to use a TS to get significant distortion.
Some amps, old ones anyway, will do that as the tubes get hot.
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And we can hear them crank up the volume on several shows from that era. Sometimes with a tremendous feedback
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And to this day if someone asks me for my favorite electric guitar ever, it is Keith behind Taylor in this song's guitar solo segment. The solo on the Gibson is great enough, but Keith chopping away back there with only style, technique and volume is the bee's knees. you can take all your fuzz boxes and tube screamers, but this particular sound is all balls.
They did do some work to get it so down and dirty -Keith overdubbed his guitar on the choruses (Oh yeah!) and the solo. Listen with headphones and you can hear the change of sound and he changes to open D.
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Don't those Ampegs have like a mid boost or something similar? That would up the dirt.
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They did do some work to get it so down and dirty -Keith overdubbed his guitar on the choruses (Oh yeah!) and the solo. Listen with headphones and you can hear the change of sound and he changes to open D.
Mathijs
Not hearing open D in use.
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They did do some work to get it so down and dirty -Keith overdubbed his guitar on the choruses (Oh yeah!) and the solo. Listen with headphones and you can hear the change of sound and he changes to open D.
Mathijs
Not hearing open D in use.
Same.
Not hearing it either.