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Maybe someone here can help me remember where that version of this song is that starts with just Chuck and the piano and everyone singing along and clapping jug band style then morphs into a full band version. Video from some rehearsal studio to begin with. Much thanks.

That B-side was fantastic. I really dug it. It was fast, too. The pre-show warm up edited on to the front...

That was on the Wild Horses CD single from Stripped. It also had Live With Me and the brilliant Paradiso version of Gimme Shelter:

"Gimme Shelter" ("Wild Horses" single) (live in Amsterdam on 26 May 1995)
"Tumbling Dice" ("Wild Horses" single) (live in Paris on 3 July 1995)
"Live with Me" ("Wild Horses" single) (live in London on 19 July 1995)

On the Stripped Companion boot as well as Rarities.

Ah, yes...forgot about the Rarities CD for Starbucks.

The Stripped Companion isn't an official release, is it?

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The Stripped Companion isn't an official release, is it?

No, it isn't. But it's a great one :E

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The Stripped Companion isn't an official release, is it?

No, it isn't. But it's a great one :E

Honest I Do got released on a soundtrack, though, but you probably know that

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Maybe someone here can help me remember where that version of this song is that starts with just Chuck and the piano and everyone singing along and clapping jug band style then morphs into a full band version. Video from some rehearsal studio to begin with. Much thanks.

That B-side was fantastic. I really dug it. It was fast, too. The pre-show warm up edited on to the front...

That was on the Wild Horses CD single from Stripped. It also had Live With Me and the brilliant Paradiso version of Gimme Shelter:

"Gimme Shelter" ("Wild Horses" single) (live in Amsterdam on 26 May 1995)
"Tumbling Dice" ("Wild Horses" single) (live in Paris on 3 July 1995)
"Live with Me" ("Wild Horses" single) (live in London on 19 July 1995)

On the Stripped Companion boot as well as Rarities.

Ah, yes...forgot about the Rarities CD for Starbucks.

The Stripped Companion isn't an official release, is it?

Starbucks, it was a worldwide release?

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Maybe someone here can help me remember where that version of this song is that starts with just Chuck and the piano and everyone singing along and clapping jug band style then morphs into a full band version. Video from some rehearsal studio to begin with. Much thanks.

That B-side was fantastic. I really dug it. It was fast, too. The pre-show warm up edited on to the front...

That was on the Wild Horses CD single from Stripped. It also had Live With Me and the brilliant Paradiso version of Gimme Shelter:

"Gimme Shelter" ("Wild Horses" single) (live in Amsterdam on 26 May 1995)
"Tumbling Dice" ("Wild Horses" single) (live in Paris on 3 July 1995)
"Live with Me" ("Wild Horses" single) (live in London on 19 July 1995)

On the Stripped Companion boot as well as Rarities.

Ah, yes...forgot about the Rarities CD for Starbucks.

The Stripped Companion isn't an official release, is it?

Starbucks, it was a worldwide release?

According to Wiki, it was a worldwide release through Virgin, but I seem to remember seeing it being especially hyped through Starbucks in America.

"...Starbucks was involved in the manufacturing, distribution and marketing of 'Rarities'..."

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I got my copy at a record store.

Weird that it's only ever been on one official live release of all the live albums pre-Google Music releases/Vault/etc releases. And that version on LOVE YOU LIVE is... pretty bad.

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Weird that it's only ever been on one official live release of all the live albums pre-Google Music releases/Vault/etc releases. And that version on LOVE YOU LIVE is... pretty bad.

Wow, that is actually a mindblowing fact.

No Flashpoint. No Live Licks. No Still Life.

Actually...it was on the double-disc version of Shine a Light. Dunno if that counts as an official live release as opposed to a soundtrack.

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Weird that it's only ever been on one official live release of all the live albums pre-Google Music releases/Vault/etc releases. And that version on LOVE YOU LIVE is... pretty bad.

Wow, that is actually a mindblowing fact.

No Flashpoint. No Live Licks. No Still Life.

Actually...it was on the double-disc version of Shine a Light. Dunno if that counts as an official live release as opposed to a soundtrack.

Kind of makes you think they don't particularly like how it sounds live either....

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Weird that it's only ever been on one official live release of all the live albums pre-Google Music releases/Vault/etc releases. And that version on LOVE YOU LIVE is... pretty bad.

Wow, that is actually a mindblowing fact.

No Flashpoint. No Live Licks. No Still Life.

Actually...it was on the double-disc version of Shine a Light. Dunno if that counts as an official live release as opposed to a soundtrack.

Ohhhh. Yep. You're right! Well. OK then, it's on two live albums that are pre-Vault etc. I deleted it, the whole album, from my computer. That's how bad it is. I just found my copy of SHINE A LIGHT, I bought the double. It's not on the single album version.

That's funny.

After the Brussels performance (1st, don't be obtuse) I wonder if the band knew that it just completed one of its greatest live performances...ever. Can they tell in the moment? Jagger has tremendous stage awareness and he encourages Taylor throughout, but he often did that. As for the Montreux performances, I contend that Taylor fumbles the first one on purpose to give the performance a "rehearsal" feel. During the second shot he knows exactly what he is doing and where he wants to go. On the recording Keith's intro is wonderful, sexy and delicious. It feels good.

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Weird that it's only ever been on one official live release of all the live albums pre-Google Music releases/Vault/etc releases. And that version on LOVE YOU LIVE is... pretty bad.

Wow, that is actually a mindblowing fact.

No Flashpoint. No Live Licks. No Still Life.

Actually...it was on the double-disc version of Shine a Light. Dunno if that counts as an official live release as opposed to a soundtrack.

Kind of makes you think they don't particularly like how it sounds live either....

As someone else has mentioned, my favorite part of Tumbling Dice post '89 is the circular horn riff that gets played during the outro. At it's best, it really sends the song into the stratosphere.


Versions from '89 and '94 were really great when Keith was just riffing relentlessly under the horns.

What I HATE about more recent versions (starting on the Licks tour I'm thinking) is that Keith, rather than simply play his riff, starts noodling off on a really ill-advised, tuneless solo that kills any momentum that the horns start building up.

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Weird that it's only ever been on one official live release of all the live albums pre-Google Music releases/Vault/etc releases. And that version on LOVE YOU LIVE is... pretty bad.

Wow, that is actually a mindblowing fact.

No Flashpoint. No Live Licks. No Still Life.

Actually...it was on the double-disc version of Shine a Light. Dunno if that counts as an official live release as opposed to a soundtrack.

Ohhhh. Yep. You're right! Well. OK then, it's on two live albums that are pre-Vault etc. I deleted it, the whole album, from my computer. That's how bad it is. I just found my copy of SHINE A LIGHT, I bought the double. It's not on the single album version.

That's funny.

You deleted Shine a Light?

Sadly, I watched the film once (DVD via Netflix) about 6-7 years ago, and never had the urge to re-watch it or buy the live album...which is a really depressing realization for a Stones fan.

It wasn't BAD per se, but it was so by-the-numbers that it didn't generate the excitement that I expected it to. I mean, Scorsese + Stones...it's GOTTA be a classic, right?

Nope.

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Weird that it's only ever been on one official live release of all the live albums pre-Google Music releases/Vault/etc releases. And that version on LOVE YOU LIVE is... pretty bad.

Wow, that is actually a mindblowing fact.

No Flashpoint. No Live Licks. No Still Life.

Actually...it was on the double-disc version of Shine a Light. Dunno if that counts as an official live release as opposed to a soundtrack.

Ohhhh. Yep. You're right! Well. OK then, it's on two live albums that are pre-Vault etc. I deleted it, the whole album, from my computer. That's how bad it is. I just found my copy of SHINE A LIGHT, I bought the double. It's not on the single album version.

That's funny.

You deleted Shine a Light?

Sadly, I watched the film once (DVD via Netflix) about 6-7 years ago, and never had the urge to re-watch it or buy the live album...which is a really depressing realization for a Stones fan.

It wasn't BAD per se, but it was so by-the-numbers that it didn't generate the excitement that I expected it to. I mean, Scorsese + Stones...it's GOTTA be a classic, right?

Nope.

Went to see "Shine a Light" it in the theaters, very excited, had a dinner before hand, it was a big production we put on with friends who weren't big Rolling Stones fans, but I had assured them it would be great.... Sigh. Such is the life of a Stones fan sometimes. I do feel the 50th anniversary shows redeemed them big time though.

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Weird that it's only ever been on one official live release of all the live albums pre-Google Music releases/Vault/etc releases. And that version on LOVE YOU LIVE is... pretty bad.

Wow, that is actually a mindblowing fact.

No Flashpoint. No Live Licks. No Still Life.

Actually...it was on the double-disc version of Shine a Light. Dunno if that counts as an official live release as opposed to a soundtrack.

Ohhhh. Yep. You're right! Well. OK then, it's on two live albums that are pre-Vault etc. I deleted it, the whole album, from my computer. That's how bad it is. I just found my copy of SHINE A LIGHT, I bought the double. It's not on the single album version.

That's funny.

You deleted Shine a Light?

Sadly, I watched the film once (DVD via Netflix) about 6-7 years ago, and never had the urge to re-watch it or buy the live album...which is a really depressing realization for a Stones fan.

It wasn't BAD per se, but it was so by-the-numbers that it didn't generate the excitement that I expected it to. I mean, Scorsese + Stones...it's GOTTA be a classic, right?

Nope.

Yep. Deleted the album from my computer and I've watched the movie, which I bought, once.

It was GREAT in the theatre, which I saw in St Petersburg, FLA on, I guess, iMax. I wasn't really sure. Seemed rather small to be iMax. Anyway, it was really good in the theatre.

I had high hopes for the album. And the video. Both were smashed. It's just really bad. Way over the top with Marty's whining and way under the bottom with Mick's awful "singing" and the band sounding tired and bland (She Was Hot is horrible, a song I dearly love). I've watched FOUR FLICKS and LIVE IN TEXAS a gazillion times (and have listened to disc 2 and LIVE IN TEXAS a lot as well). SHINE A LIGHT shall remain in the single digits for the album and movie.

First time I ever heard Tumbling Dice was on LYL. Still a favorite version for me.

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Maybe someone here can help me remember where that version of this song is that starts with just Chuck and the piano and everyone singing along and clapping jug band style then morphs into a full band version. Video from some rehearsal studio to begin with. Much thanks.

That B-side was fantastic. I really dug it. It was fast, too. The pre-show warm up edited on to the front...

That was on the Wild Horses CD single from Stripped.

"Tumbling Dice" ("Wild Horses" single) (live in Paris on 3 July 1995)

As much as I love the beginning, that's the single most disappointing release the Stones ever had. It starts out like a fantastic soulful impromptu jam -- and instead of giving us the entire song with that beauty, that had to cut it off and insert the same-old same-old live version. Makes me want to scream! They never know when they have a great thing!

And now we have it, complete! Still going thru my Totally Stripped and can't believe they released This Tumbling Dice rehearsal like it should have been 20 years ago!

That some of you do not like Shine A Light remains a mystery to me. It is one of their best live-albums/DVD´s ever. It´ s such an exciting performance captured beautifully in sound and picture.

Regarding Tumbling Dice I like the studio-version but meanwhile I´ve heard so many live versions that I am kind of fed up. I particularly dont like the CD-single-version with that awful sounding clap-along/sing-along-part before it really starts into one of the best versions they ever did. What a shame they butcherd it by using this weird "intro". LYL-version isnt bad but the Shine-A-Light-version must be the best available, I guess. It is so exciting and vital - just like everything else on Shine A Light.

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Maybe someone here can help me remember where that version of this song is that starts with just Chuck and the piano and everyone singing along and clapping jug band style then morphs into a full band version. Video from some rehearsal studio to begin with. Much thanks.

That B-side was fantastic. I really dug it. It was fast, too. The pre-show warm up edited on to the front...

That was on the Wild Horses CD single from Stripped.

"Tumbling Dice" ("Wild Horses" single) (live in Paris on 3 July 1995)

As much as I love the beginning, that's the single most disappointing release the Stones ever had. It starts out like a fantastic soulful impromptu jam -- and instead of giving us the entire song with that beauty, that had to cut it off and insert the same-old same-old live version. Makes me want to scream! They never know when they have a great thing!

And now we have it, complete! Still going thru my Totally Stripped and can't believe they released This Tumbling Dice rehearsal like it should have been 20 years ago!

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Maybe someone here can help me remember where that version of this song is that starts with just Chuck and the piano and everyone singing along and clapping jug band style then morphs into a full band version. Video from some rehearsal studio to begin with. Much thanks.

That B-side was fantastic. I really dug it. It was fast, too. The pre-show warm up edited on to the front...

That was on the Wild Horses CD single from Stripped.

"Tumbling Dice" ("Wild Horses" single) (live in Paris on 3 July 1995)

As much as I love the beginning, that's the single most disappointing release the Stones ever had. It starts out like a fantastic soulful impromptu jam -- and instead of giving us the entire song with that beauty, that had to cut it off and insert the same-old same-old live version. Makes me want to scream! They never know when they have a great thing!

And now we have it, complete! Still going thru my Totally Stripped and can't believe they released This Tumbling Dice rehearsal like it should have been 20 years ago!

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Thanks! ... but can't view it in my country. No matter, I have the dvd.

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After the Brussels performance (1st, don't be obtuse) I wonder if the band knew that it just completed one of its greatest live performances...ever. Can they tell in the moment? Jagger has tremendous stage awareness and he encourages Taylor throughout, but he often did that. As for the Montreux performances, I contend that Taylor fumbles the first one on purpose to give the performance a "rehearsal" feel. During the second shot he knows exactly what he is doing and where he wants to go. On the recording Keith's intro is wonderful, sexy and delicious. It feels good.

The consensus in the band is that there was too much noodling on "Brussels"

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That some of you do not like Shine A Light remains a mystery to me.

That's because you like garbage. And that is no mystery.

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I particularly dont like the CD-single-version with that awful sounding clap-along/sing-along-part before it really starts into one of the best versions they ever did. What a shame they butcherd it by using this weird "intro". LYL-version isnt bad but the Shine-A-Light-version must be the best available, I guess. It is so exciting and vital - just like everything else on Shine A Light.

How not bizarrely stunning. You don't like the excellent beginning of the B-side and you think SHINE A LIGHT is "exciting and vital".

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After the Brussels performance (1st, don't be obtuse) I wonder if the band knew that it just completed one of its greatest live performances...ever. Can they tell in the moment? Jagger has tremendous stage awareness and he encourages Taylor throughout, but he often did that. As for the Montreux performances, I contend that Taylor fumbles the first one on purpose to give the performance a "rehearsal" feel. During the second shot he knows exactly what he is doing and where he wants to go. On the recording Keith's intro is wonderful, sexy and delicious. It feels good.

The consensus in the band is that there was too much noodling on "Brussels"

You made that up? Just wondering, I've never read that anywhere.

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As close to perfection in straight-ahead rock-n-roll 45 rpm singles as they got.

Gimme Shelter, Satisfaction, and Paint it Black are all so unique and distinctive they stand apart.

But for just pure raw straight ahead rock-n-roll, Tumbling Dice might be the pinnacle.

They've never done it well live, and so sadly as a result for a lot of fans it isn't respected as much as it should be. But if you go back and listen to the studio track, it's perfect. The drumming, the vocals (esp the female vocals), the words, the riff... this is the rolling stones, rolling.

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I've always believed this as well, and not sure how to explain it: THIS is the Stones in all thier sloppy, soulful glory.
Its my favorite single Stones song.

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As close to perfection in straight-ahead rock-n-roll 45 rpm singles as they got.

Gimme Shelter, Satisfaction, and Paint it Black are all so unique and distinctive they stand apart.

But for just pure raw straight ahead rock-n-roll, Tumbling Dice might be the pinnacle.

They've never done it well live, and so sadly as a result for a lot of fans it isn't respected as much as it should be. But if you go back and listen to the studio track, it's perfect. The drumming, the vocals (esp the female vocals), the words, the riff... this is the rolling stones, rolling.

Not sure it's my favorite single, but the studio version IS a classic!!

This entire post.
I've always believed this as well, and not sure how to explain it: THIS is the Stones in all thier sloppy, soulful glory.
Its my favorite single Stones song.

"Gonna find my way to heaven ..."

Another great thing about Tumbling Dice is that is one of those "different" Rolling Stones songs. Why is it different? Because it is not structured like a conventional rock and roll song, you have that delicious repeating coda for the last half of the song.

I love that about the Rolling Stones. For example, Paint it Black is another "different" Rolling Stones song. Bitch is a different song. One day I will make a list.

For me its the essential Stones song and I never tire of when I hear it (like I can do with Start me up, Satisfaction, Sympathy, Shelter)...captures keith and Mick at their best and the grove is unstoppable. LOVE the Texas 78 version, Hampton and Love you Live....97 St Louis was the last time they played it well...too fast now

I really enjoy the Leeds '82 version. Keith's playing is sharp and Bobby & Gene Barge kill it on the outro.

Like Rambler a song that worked even better live. On my top ten list. Started to become boring though arund 94/95. Like many of the other warhorses on constant repetition.