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The Mez
Islamophobia is on the rise. Stop the hate!
Over 130 innocent civilians killed by islamic terrorists and you're afraid of islamophobia? Get your priorities right. There is every reason in the world to be afraid of islamist murderers!
And there are even just causes to be islamophobic. It's a religion incompatible with Occident values and modern civilisation.
More innocent civilians die every hour of every day of starvation in Africa. Priorities indeed.
That has nothing to do with terrorism. There is no causality there whatsoever. A meaningless comparison.
It's meaningful because if you are someone who wants to stop innocent people from dying, it's much more effective to help fight drunk driving, or heroin addiction, or even starvation in Africa than it is ISIS. That's assuming you actually want to do something to help rather than just talk.
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The Mez
Islamophobia is on the rise. Stop the hate!
Over 130 innocent civilians killed by islamic terrorists and you're afraid of islamophobia? Get your priorities right. There is every reason in the world to be afraid of islamist murderers!
And there are even just causes to be islamophobic. It's a religion incompatible with Occident values and modern civilisation.
More innocent civilians die every hour of every day of starvation in Africa. Priorities indeed.
That has nothing to do with terrorism. There is no causality there whatsoever. A meaningless comparison.
It's meaningful because if you are someone who wants to stop innocent people from dying, it's much more effective to help fight drunk driving, or heroin addiction, or even starvation in Africa than it is ISIS. That's assuming you actually want to do something to help rather than just talk.
You can't help everyone, everywhere, everytime. The argument that because people are starving in Africa and people are driving drunk you shouldn't combat terrorism isn't a valid one. To put it mildly....
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The Mez
Islamophobia is on the rise. Stop the hate!
Over 130 innocent civilians killed by islamic terrorists and you're afraid of islamophobia? Get your priorities right. There is every reason in the world to be afraid of islamist murderers!
And there are even just causes to be islamophobic. It's a religion incompatible with Occident values and modern civilisation.
More innocent civilians die every hour of every day of starvation in Africa. Priorities indeed.
That has nothing to do with terrorism. There is no causality there whatsoever. A meaningless comparison.
It's meaningful because if you are someone who wants to stop innocent people from dying, it's much more effective to help fight drunk driving, or heroin addiction, or even starvation in Africa than it is ISIS. That's assuming you actually want to do something to help rather than just talk.
You can't help everyone, everywhere, everytime. The argument that because people are starving in Africa and people are driving drunk you shouldn't combat terrorism isn't a valid one. To put it mildly....
Agreed. Because we can't help everyone everywhere it is worth asking where we can most effectively help.
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Stoneage
But this isn't about helping other nations. It's about protecting the citizens of France (and Europe). And that is the first priority for every state. If you want to stop world starvation I'm fine with that. But that has nothing to do with this. If you don't understand such simple causality I'm afraid I can't help you here.
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But this isn't about helping other nations. It's about protecting the citizens of France (and Europe). And that is the first priority for every state. If you want to stop world starvation I'm fine with that. But that has nothing to do with this. If you don't understand such simple causality I'm afraid I can't help you here.
If this isn't about helping other nations how come every Western nation is offering to help France? Just messing with you Stoneage you know exactly what point Turner is making and you are obviously just messing with him too. You could have just said I prefer to stay on the topic of the terrorist attacks and terrorism here which is valid because if we broaden it to include all the pain suffering and death in this world we could go on for a long time and Bjornulf would shut us down pretty quickly.
I have a question about the attacks, is there any evidence that the terrorists were targeting the President of France at the soccer match?
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swimtothemoon
Isis should be dealt with as a coalition of nations. To
lay blame is not productive but the task of eliminating
Isis and the like needs to be a global priority.
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Rokyfan
George Bush created Isis, that is an indisputable fact. He gave them their land, he trained their fighters in Guantanamo and he gave them their weapons (the puppet Iraq gov't we armed and which fled, leaving all the arms to Isis).
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George Bush created Isis, that is an indisputable fact. He gave them their land, he trained their fighters in Guantanamo and he gave them their weapons (the puppet Iraq gov't we armed and which fled, leaving all the arms to Isis).
No Isis is a creation of Saudi Arabia and Qatar to be used against their nemesis Bachar Al Assad.
Nemesis because he's shi'ite (they're sunni) nemesis because he rules a secular state (SA and Qatar are fascist theocraties). Nemesis because Syria is an ally of Iran, the deadly enemy of Saudi Arabia.
So Bachar Al Assad had to be removed and the creation of Isis was the weapon for that task. Pour in Western cynical idiots (Obama Hollande Cameron) who didn't see the danger Isis was and voila! you have a disaster...
The only guy who saw things as they are is PUTIN. I know this isn't what you'll see on CNN but that's the plain truth.
And ask yourself why the Western coallition bombed Isis for 18 months to no avail while Putin's army is defeating this scum in just a few weeks. Allepo (one of Syria's main cities) is about to be freed from Isis and you can thank Putin for that not the Western coallition.
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George Bush created Isis, that is an indisputable fact. He gave them their land, he trained their fighters in Guantanamo and he gave them their weapons (the puppet Iraq gov't we armed and which fled, leaving all the arms to Isis).
No Isis is a creation of Saudi Arabia and Qatar to be used against their nemesis Bachar Al Assad.
Nemesis because he's shi'ite (they're sunni) nemesis because he rules a secular state (SA and Qatar are fascist theocraties). Nemesis because Syria is an ally of Iran, the deadly enemy of Saudi Arabia.
So Bachar Al Assad had to be removed and the creation of Isis was the weapon for that task. Pour in Western cynical idiots (Obama Hollande Cameron) who didn't see the danger Isis was and voila! you have a disaster...
The only guy who saw things as they are is PUTIN. I know this isn't what you'll see on CNN but that's the plain truth.
And ask yourself why the Western coallition bombed Isis for 18 months to no avail while Putin's army is defeating this scum in just a few weeks. Allepo (one of Syria's main cities) is about to be freed from Isis and you can thank Putin for that not the Western coallition.
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Now, beginning to gather in San Francisco...
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ROPENI
My two cents worth...The mere existence of ISIS and other groups like them is the direct result of the Irak invasion by, W,Cheney,and their band of psychopaths,who lied to the world about Weapons of Mass Destruction that were never found.. .." Even Tony Blair admitted on UK TV last week that the invasion of Iraq gave rise to Isis....
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No Isis is a creation of Saudi Arabia and Qatar to be used against their nemesis Bachar Al Assad.
Nemesis because he's shi'ite (they're sunni) nemesis because he rules a secular state (SA and Qatar are fascist theocraties). Nemesis because Syria is an ally of Iran, the deadly enemy of Saudi Arabia.
So Bachar Al Assad had to be removed and the creation of Isis was the weapon for that task. Pour in Western cynical idiots (Obama Hollande Cameron) who didn't see the danger Isis was and voila! you have a disaster...
The only guy who saw things as they are is PUTIN. I know this isn't what you'll see on CNN but that's the plain truth.
And ask yourself why the Western coallition bombed Isis for 18 months to no avail while Putin's army is defeating this scum in just a few weeks. Allepo (one of Syria's main cities) is about to be freed from Isis and you can thank Putin for that not the Western coallition.
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My two cents worth...The mere existence of ISIS and other groups like them is the direct result of the Irak invasion by, W,Cheney,and their band of psychopaths,who lied to the world about Weapons of Mass Destruction that were never found.. .." Even Tony Blair admitted on UK TV last week that the invasion of Iraq gave rise to Isis....
Not sure...have you read the quran?
This religion is full of hate...
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Rokyfan
George Bush created Isis, that is an indisputable fact. He gave them their land, he trained their fighters in Guantanamo and he gave them their weapons (the puppet Iraq gov't we armed and which fled, leaving all the arms to Isis).
No Isis is a creation of Saudi Arabia and Qatar to be used against their nemesis Bachar Al Assad.
Nemesis because he's shi'ite (they're sunni) nemesis because he rules a secular state (SA and Qatar are fascist theocraties). Nemesis because Syria is an ally of Iran, the deadly enemy of Saudi Arabia.
So Bachar Al Assad had to be removed and the creation of Isis was the weapon for that task. Pour in Western cynical idiots (Obama Hollande Cameron) who didn't see the danger Isis was and voila! you have a disaster...
The only guy who saw things as they are is PUTIN. I know this isn't what you'll see on CNN but that's the plain truth.
And ask yourself why the Western coallition bombed Isis for 18 months to no avail while Putin's army is defeating this scum in just a few weeks. Allepo (one of Syria's main cities) is about to be freed from Isis and you can thank Putin for that not the Western coallition.
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ROPENI
My two cents worth...The mere existence of ISIS and other groups like them is the direct result of the Irak invasion by, W,Cheney,and their band of psychopaths,who lied to the world about Weapons of Mass Destruction that were never found.. .." Even Tony Blair admitted on UK TV last week that the invasion of Iraq gave rise to Isis....
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My two cents worth...The mere existence of ISIS and other groups like them is the direct result of the Irak invasion by, W,Cheney,and their band of psychopaths,who lied to the world about Weapons of Mass Destruction that were never found.. .." Even Tony Blair admitted on UK TV last week that the invasion of Iraq gave rise to Isis....
wonderful. People dead and you are making it political/point fingers ONLY because you are a left-winger (like the others on this site doing same/you CANNOT resist) while they are mourning. You are the lowest form