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Yes Neil has been fantastic lately.
Check out this thread, you might want to add something to it:
> Neil
_____________________________________________________________
Rip this joint, gonna save your soul, round and round and round we go......
Keith has just created great new material with worldwide good reviews.
To be honest i don't give a shit about Neil Young.
Nothing wrong with the intros. The rest of what you're saying might not be downright wrong, but this surely can't news to you, unless you've been living under a rock for 9 years.
True.
Neil Young is great but he has got a different approach about the live in general. From the other hand I don't think that Keith performance was boring!The interesting aspect is the sound of the band, very fresh and rich of power.
I think that Trouble or Nothing on me would have been the most appropiate numbers. Just a gift is a great track but I don't think they'll do it easily live. It also features some difficult vocals partsand and is difficult to propose the arrangement live.
This! I love that thunder they filled the theater with.
It wouldn't be easy but Keith could do it with the backup he had that night.
For me the "themes" of Trouble and Nothing On Me wouldn't have suited a charity event so well
but ... well, maybe next time!
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2015-10-25 11:21 by with sssoul.
EXACTLY! You expressed beautifully the things going through my mind while watching and listening "Gimme Shelter". It's that incredible combination of fragitility, economicality, timing and dynamism mr. Richards carries the song in his shoulders. Once again I was confirmed that it is nothing but the world greatest rhythm guitarist playing out there, and having that kind of intuition and access to the deepest secrets of guitar no one else is even close. He has made his own rules. The way he communicates with the song is almost transcendental, yet so human, expressing its edges and moods and heartbeats. That something one can not learn no matter how much one tries. He is the song's drama in flesh.
I like the version of "Gimme Shelter", even without the only male voice that can do justice to song's fine and difficult nuances; a nice tribute to her and to the great song and to the past, but it is mr. Richards's rhythm guitar work here and now that really impressed me. And I am not even any longer any fan of his.
"Happy" is Keith's signature song, and he seemingly had done some pre-thought about its vocal delivery... we got that "jazzy" interpretation, playing with the timing... Pure Keith.
A nice little two song performance, the bonus being the glimpse of rock and roll's magical eternality in "Gimme Shelter".
- Doxa
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2015-10-25 12:45 by Doxa.
I don't know what it is with the Winos, but they always sound so powerful. This performance was no exception.
Loved the moment on Happy where Keith gave Waddy a nod, to let him know he was still on top of it even if he knew he would start the third verse a round late
Good to see Keith leading a band again
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2015-10-25 14:52 by DandelionPowderman.
Hope so, but i doubt it.
Jeroen
Catching up here--
So very, very well-stated, Green Lady, and withsssoul.
And thank you for graciously reconsidering your tone in response, NL.
~"Love is Strong"~
ouch!
New material that took 20 years to produce.I've listened to it 3 times.
You may not care about Neil Young but he is a man Keiths age who can actually still play is instruments,and sing.Keith is toast and has been for some time.
THe intro to GS was cocked-up as it has been for years.He merely 'suggests' the intro these days.Listen to the record,he does not play the intro anywhere near the original.
He never did that, as it is in open tuning on LIB. The closest he got was with the Winos in 92/93.
It didn't take 20 years to produce.
You're talking about different artists with different styles.
During last 20 years the magnificient virtuos Mr. Young has created even useless stuff.
Yes, one needs to listen to it at least 30 times before you can have the street cred to properly loathe it.
Is that what was going on with Happy? A jazz vocal interpretation? Perhaps I need to go back and listen with my jazz ears on. lol Stick to rock and roll Keith..
He has never played it "right" in concert.
Gimme shelter is one of those songs that has never been particularly good live.
He played it at the appolo for merry Clayton.
Talk about your favorite band.
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Re: Keith honors Merry Clayton at "A Great Night In Harlem", October 22
Posted by:
Turner68
()
Date: October 25, 2015 01:42
Keith looked happy, healthy, and engaged. Perhaps this will spur him to put a real tour together with the winos.
Re: Keith honors Merry Clayton at "A Great Night In Harlem", October 22
Posted by:
72hotrocks
()
Date: October 25, 2015 02:23
Wow,this is getting heaps of praise I just don't understand.
Keith simply can't play the intro to GS properly anymore.
He does more gesticulating than playing during Happy,because he can't sing and play at the same time.When singing,he is constantly looking for the key.This is just Keith coasting on his image,posing instead of playing.
Keith simply can't play the intro to GS properly anymore.
He does more gesticulating than playing during Happy,because he can't sing and play at the same time.When singing,he is constantly looking for the key.This is just Keith coasting on his image,posing instead of playing.
Re: Keith honors Merry Clayton at "A Great Night In Harlem", October 22
Posted by:
72hotrocks
()
Date: October 25, 2015 02:36
Honestly this was boring.
I just saw Neil Young play and sing fantastically for three hours.Flawless.
An artist not only still engaged in his past but also passionate about creating new material.
I barely made it through 15 minutes of this.Boring.Safe.Coasting.No effort.
It is easy for me to see who cares about the Muse and who cares about the Spotlight.
I just saw Neil Young play and sing fantastically for three hours.Flawless.
An artist not only still engaged in his past but also passionate about creating new material.
I barely made it through 15 minutes of this.Boring.Safe.Coasting.No effort.
It is easy for me to see who cares about the Muse and who cares about the Spotlight.
Re: Keith honors Merry Clayton at "A Great Night In Harlem", October 22
Posted by:
Hairball
()
Date: October 25, 2015 02:44
Quote
72hotrocks
I just saw Neil Young play and sing fantastically for three hours.Flawless.
Yes Neil has been fantastic lately.
Check out this thread, you might want to add something to it:
> Neil
_____________________________________________________________
Rip this joint, gonna save your soul, round and round and round we go......
Re: Keith honors Merry Clayton at "A Great Night In Harlem", October 22
Posted by:
ROPENI
()
Date: October 25, 2015 02:46
Please, this performance shows that Keith can no longer front a band.l mean he does two songs,GS made sense since they were honoring Merry Clayton,and then he had three singers doing the vocals,he @#$%& up the intro to the song,and then instead of doing a song from his new record,he goes and does "Happy" a good song ,but Jesus let it rest already,now days l guess that he is good for a couple of songs and lots of posing,forget about a Winos reunion.....
"No dope smoking no beer sold after 12 o'clock"
"No dope smoking no beer sold after 12 o'clock"
Re: Keith honors Merry Clayton at "A Great Night In Harlem", October 22
Posted by:
schillid
()
Date: October 25, 2015 02:58
Waiting On A Friend (in honor of Sonny Rollins) would have been a great choice after GS ...
But maybe it's not in open g
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2015-10-25 04:50 by schillid.
But maybe it's not in open g
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2015-10-25 04:50 by schillid.
Re: Keith honors Merry Clayton at "A Great Night In Harlem", October 22
Posted by:
StonedAsia
()
Date: October 25, 2015 08:09
Fantastic videos. Honest, ball grabbing and soul stirring music. The way it should be.
Re: Keith honors Merry Clayton at "A Great Night In Harlem", October 22
Posted by:
KRiffhard
()
Date: October 25, 2015 08:19
Quote
72hotrocks
Honestly this was boring.
I just saw Neil Young play and sing fantastically for three hours.Flawless.
An artist not only still engaged in his past but also passionate about creating new material.
I barely made it through 15 minutes of this.Boring.Safe.Coasting.No effort.
It is easy for me to see who cares about the Muse and who cares about the Spotlight.
Keith has just created great new material with worldwide good reviews.
To be honest i don't give a shit about Neil Young.
Re: Keith honors Merry Clayton at "A Great Night In Harlem", October 22
Posted by:
with sssoul
()
Date: October 25, 2015 09:10
Just a Gift probably would have been the most appropriate number from CrossEyed Heart for the occasion
except that leaving everyone sobbing is not really a very nice way to close an event like that
except that leaving everyone sobbing is not really a very nice way to close an event like that
Re: Keith honors Merry Clayton at "A Great Night In Harlem", October 22
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
()
Date: October 25, 2015 10:00
Quote
72hotrocks
Wow,this is getting heaps of praise I just don't understand.
Keith simply can't play the intro to GS properly anymore.
He does more gesticulating than playing during Happy,because he can't sing and play at the same time.When singing,he is constantly looking for the key.This is just Keith coasting on his image,posing instead of playing.
Nothing wrong with the intros. The rest of what you're saying might not be downright wrong, but this surely can't news to you, unless you've been living under a rock for 9 years.
Re: Keith honors Merry Clayton at "A Great Night In Harlem", October 22
Posted by:
pepganzo
()
Date: October 25, 2015 10:53
Quote
KRiffhardQuote
72hotrocks
Honestly this was boring.
I just saw Neil Young play and sing fantastically for three hours.Flawless.
An artist not only still engaged in his past but also passionate about creating new material.
I barely made it through 15 minutes of this.Boring.Safe.Coasting.No effort.
It is easy for me to see who cares about the Muse and who cares about the Spotlight.
Keith has just created great new material with worldwide good reviews.
To be honest i don't give a shit about Neil Young.
True.Neil Young is great but he has got a different approach about the live in general. From the other hand I don't think that Keith performance was boring!The interesting aspect is the sound of the band, very fresh and rich of power.
Quote
with sssoul
Just a Gift probably would have been the most appropriate number from CrossEyed Heart for the occasion
except that leaving everyone sobbing is not really a very nice way to close an event like that
I think that Trouble or Nothing on me would have been the most appropiate numbers. Just a gift is a great track but I don't think they'll do it easily live. It also features some difficult vocals partsand and is difficult to propose the arrangement live.
Re: Keith honors Merry Clayton at "A Great Night In Harlem", October 22
Posted by:
with sssoul
()
Date: October 25, 2015 11:20
Quote
pepganzo
From the other hand I don't think that Keith performance was boring!
The interesting aspect is the sound of the band, very fresh and rich of power.
This! I love that thunder they filled the theater with.
Quote
pepganzo
I think that Trouble or Nothing On Me would have been the most appropiate numbers.
Just a Gift is a great track but I don't think they'll do it easily live. It also features some difficult vocals parts
and and is difficult to propose the arrangement live.
It wouldn't be easy but Keith could do it with the backup he had that night.
For me the "themes" of Trouble and Nothing On Me wouldn't have suited a charity event so well
but ... well, maybe next time!
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2015-10-25 11:21 by with sssoul.
Re: Keith to honor Merry Clayton at "A Great Night In Harlem", October 22
Posted by:
Doxa
()
Date: October 25, 2015 12:34
Quote
paulywaul
Forgetting about that little 'one fret off' cock-up for a minute, it otherwise illustrates his superlative skills as a RHYTHM guitar player.
His use of empty space against the background of bass n' drums has no equal, when he decides to 'fill that space' with something or other, it's more often than not very little indeed - maybe just a single downstroke, or a whacking great downstroke followed by a lesser upstroke. But the superb timing of it, coupled with that extraordinary guitar tone that he gets ... it enhances the song out of all proportion. THAT is the genius of Keith Richards in my opinion ....
EXACTLY! You expressed beautifully the things going through my mind while watching and listening "Gimme Shelter". It's that incredible combination of fragitility, economicality, timing and dynamism mr. Richards carries the song in his shoulders. Once again I was confirmed that it is nothing but the world greatest rhythm guitarist playing out there, and having that kind of intuition and access to the deepest secrets of guitar no one else is even close. He has made his own rules. The way he communicates with the song is almost transcendental, yet so human, expressing its edges and moods and heartbeats. That something one can not learn no matter how much one tries. He is the song's drama in flesh.
I like the version of "Gimme Shelter", even without the only male voice that can do justice to song's fine and difficult nuances; a nice tribute to her and to the great song and to the past, but it is mr. Richards's rhythm guitar work here and now that really impressed me. And I am not even any longer any fan of his.
"Happy" is Keith's signature song, and he seemingly had done some pre-thought about its vocal delivery... we got that "jazzy" interpretation, playing with the timing... Pure Keith.
A nice little two song performance, the bonus being the glimpse of rock and roll's magical eternality in "Gimme Shelter".
- Doxa
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2015-10-25 12:45 by Doxa.
Re: Keith honors Merry Clayton at "A Great Night In Harlem", October 22
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
()
Date: October 25, 2015 14:32
Quote
Turner68
Keith looked happy, healthy, and engaged. Perhaps this will spur him to put a real tour together with the winos.
I don't know what it is with the Winos, but they always sound so powerful. This performance was no exception.
Loved the moment on Happy where Keith gave Waddy a nod, to let him know he was still on top of it even if he knew he would start the third verse a round late
Good to see Keith leading a band again
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2015-10-25 14:52 by DandelionPowderman.
Re: Keith honors Merry Clayton at "A Great Night In Harlem", October 22
Posted by:
MonkeyMan2000
()
Date: October 25, 2015 14:39
I get the feeling Keith will do some shows. Look how happy he is. Maybe Steve will force him to do something, like with the album.
Re: Keith honors Merry Clayton at "A Great Night In Harlem", October 22
Posted by:
KRiffhard
()
Date: October 25, 2015 14:51
Quote
MonkeyMan2000
I get the feeling Keith will do some shows. Look how happy he is. Maybe Steve will force him to do something, like with the album.
Re: Keith honors Merry Clayton at "A Great Night In Harlem", October 22
Posted by:
runrudolph
()
Date: October 25, 2015 16:12
Quote
MonkeyMan2000
I get the feeling Keith will do some shows. Look how happy he is. Maybe Steve will force him to do something, like with the album.
Hope so, but i doubt it.
Jeroen
Re: Keith honoring Merry Clayton at "A Great Night In Harlem", October 22
Posted by:
angee
()
Date: October 25, 2015 16:55
Quote
NaturalustQuote
with sssoulQuote
Green Lady
Offended, no. But disappointed that you always feel the need to play devil's advocate and shine the spotlight
on all the reasons why people shouldn't have liked something that many clearly did
(just in case they hadn't noticed and had accidentally enjoyed it - that can't be allowed).
But I guess that's the job of a critic - and you do it so eloquently and so often that you almost have me persuaded
that things were indeed as dreadful as you say they were - until I listen again and my blessed cloth ears
tell me that I'm happy hearing this.
That was beautifully said, Green Lady.
"You do not have to love a work of art or a style in order to criticize it,
but you need to understand its attraction for someone who does. ...
Criticism has no significance and no importance if it is not accompanied by understanding -
and that implies the comprehension of at least the possibility of love."
- Charles Rosen
(Not that I think our friend NL lacks understanding! Just ... I like that quote)
Yes, well said and perhaps even true in my case, about the devil's advocate part. But my intentions are never to disappoint or reduce someone's enjoyment of something, basically just expressing an (often contrasting) opinion. I think I also try to play that role in a more positive vein and will advocate in a good way for things I feel are being critiqued too negatively. But I hear you Green Lady, perhaps I should temper my comments with more love and understanding.
In Keith's case I truly do love the man dearly, appreciate greatly that he is still getting out there at all and understand some of the factors which can result in a less than stellar performance which are beyond his control, like monitoring, the live feed mix, lack of time to rehearse, etc etc. I admit I prefer any Keith show to the alternative and am glad you enjoyed it so much.
Catching up here--
So very, very well-stated, Green Lady, and withsssoul.
And thank you for graciously reconsidering your tone in response, NL.
~"Love is Strong"~
Re: Keith honors Merry Clayton at "A Great Night In Harlem", October 22
Posted by:
treaclefingers
()
Date: October 25, 2015 17:47
Quote
schillid
Waiting On A Friend (in honor of Sonny Rollins) would have been a great choice after GS ...
But maybe it's not in open g
ouch!
Re: Keith honors Merry Clayton at "A Great Night In Harlem", October 22
Posted by:
treaclefingers
()
Date: October 25, 2015 17:59
A bit pedestrian overall...the female vocal was great. Still, I'm sure it was very cool actually being there.
Re: Keith honors Merry Clayton at "A Great Night In Harlem", October 22
Posted by:
72hotrocks
()
Date: October 25, 2015 19:10
some people will eat anything
Re: Keith honors Merry Clayton at "A Great Night In Harlem", October 22
Posted by:
72hotrocks
()
Date: October 25, 2015 19:13
Quote
KRiffhardQuote
72hotrocks
Honestly this was boring.
I just saw Neil Young play and sing fantastically for three hours.Flawless.
An artist not only still engaged in his past but also passionate about creating new material.
I barely made it through 15 minutes of this.Boring.Safe.Coasting.No effort.
It is easy for me to see who cares about the Muse and who cares about the Spotlight.
Keith has just created great new material with worldwide good reviews.
To be honest i don't give a shit about Neil Young.
New material that took 20 years to produce.I've listened to it 3 times.
You may not care about Neil Young but he is a man Keiths age who can actually still play is instruments,and sing.Keith is toast and has been for some time.
Re: Keith honors Merry Clayton at "A Great Night In Harlem", October 22
Posted by:
72hotrocks
()
Date: October 25, 2015 19:15
Quote
DandelionPowdermanQuote
72hotrocks
Wow,this is getting heaps of praise I just don't understand.
Keith simply can't play the intro to GS properly anymore.
He does more gesticulating than playing during Happy,because he can't sing and play at the same time.When singing,he is constantly looking for the key.This is just Keith coasting on his image,posing instead of playing.
Nothing wrong with the intros. The rest of what you're saying might not be downright wrong, but this surely can't news to you, unless you've been living under a rock for 9 years.
THe intro to GS was cocked-up as it has been for years.He merely 'suggests' the intro these days.Listen to the record,he does not play the intro anywhere near the original.
Re: Keith honors Merry Clayton at "A Great Night In Harlem", October 22
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
()
Date: October 25, 2015 19:47
Quote
72hotrocksQuote
DandelionPowdermanQuote
72hotrocks
Wow,this is getting heaps of praise I just don't understand.
Keith simply can't play the intro to GS properly anymore.
He does more gesticulating than playing during Happy,because he can't sing and play at the same time.When singing,he is constantly looking for the key.This is just Keith coasting on his image,posing instead of playing.
Nothing wrong with the intros. The rest of what you're saying might not be downright wrong, but this surely can't news to you, unless you've been living under a rock for 9 years.
THe intro to GS was cocked-up as it has been for years.He merely 'suggests' the intro these days.Listen to the record,he does not play the intro anywhere near the original.
He never did that, as it is in open tuning on LIB. The closest he got was with the Winos in 92/93.
Re: Keith honors Merry Clayton at "A Great Night In Harlem", October 22
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
()
Date: October 25, 2015 20:08
Quote
72hotrocksQuote
KRiffhardQuote
72hotrocks
Honestly this was boring.
I just saw Neil Young play and sing fantastically for three hours.Flawless.
An artist not only still engaged in his past but also passionate about creating new material.
I barely made it through 15 minutes of this.Boring.Safe.Coasting.No effort.
It is easy for me to see who cares about the Muse and who cares about the Spotlight.
Keith has just created great new material with worldwide good reviews.
To be honest i don't give a shit about Neil Young.
New material that took 20 years to produce.I've listened to it 3 times.
You may not care about Neil Young but he is a man Keiths age who can actually still play is instruments,and sing.Keith is toast and has been for some time.
It didn't take 20 years to produce.
Re: Keith honors Merry Clayton at "A Great Night In Harlem", October 22
Posted by:
KRiffhard
()
Date: October 25, 2015 20:22
Quote
72hotrocksQuote
KRiffhardQuote
72hotrocks
Honestly this was boring.
I just saw Neil Young play and sing fantastically for three hours.Flawless.
An artist not only still engaged in his past but also passionate about creating new material.
I barely made it through 15 minutes of this.Boring.Safe.Coasting.No effort.
It is easy for me to see who cares about the Muse and who cares about the Spotlight.
Keith has just created great new material with worldwide good reviews.
To be honest i don't give a shit about Neil Young.
New material that took 20 years to produce.I've listened to it 3 times.
You may not care about Neil Young but he is a man Keiths age who can actually still play is instruments,and sing.Keith is toast and has been for some time.
You're talking about different artists with different styles.
During last 20 years the magnificient virtuos Mr. Young has created even useless stuff.
Re: Keith honors Merry Clayton at "A Great Night In Harlem", October 22
Posted by:
MonkeyMan2000
()
Date: October 25, 2015 20:25
Keith can still play guitar, bass and piano. All of them with a certain feel and soul. And he sings wonderful, especially on the ballads. And does that mean, it is a bad album, only because you listened to it 3 times?
Re: Keith honors Merry Clayton at "A Great Night In Harlem", October 22
Posted by:
treaclefingers
()
Date: October 25, 2015 20:55
Quote
MonkeyMan2000
Keith can still play guitar, bass and piano. All of them with a certain feel and soul. And he sings wonderful, especially on the ballads. And does that mean, it is a bad album, only because you listened to it 3 times?
Yes, one needs to listen to it at least 30 times before you can have the street cred to properly loathe it.
Re: Keith to honor Merry Clayton at "A Great Night In Harlem", October 22
Posted by:
Naturalust
()
Date: October 25, 2015 21:27
Quote
Doxa
"Happy" is Keith's signature song, and he seemingly had done some pre-thought about its vocal delivery... we got that "jazzy" interpretation, playing with the timing... Pure Keith.
Is that what was going on with Happy? A jazz vocal interpretation? Perhaps I need to go back and listen with my jazz ears on. lol Stick to rock and roll Keith..Re: Keith honors Merry Clayton at "A Great Night In Harlem", October 22
Posted by:
Turner68
()
Date: October 25, 2015 21:37
Quote
72hotrocksQuote
DandelionPowdermanQuote
72hotrocks
Wow,this is getting heaps of praise I just don't understand.
Keith simply can't play the intro to GS properly anymore.
He does more gesticulating than playing during Happy,because he can't sing and play at the same time.When singing,he is constantly looking for the key.This is just Keith coasting on his image,posing instead of playing.
Nothing wrong with the intros. The rest of what you're saying might not be downright wrong, but this surely can't news to you, unless you've been living under a rock for 9 years.
THe intro to GS was cocked-up as it has been for years.He merely 'suggests' the intro these days.Listen to the record,he does not play the intro anywhere near the original.
He has never played it "right" in concert.
Gimme shelter is one of those songs that has never been particularly good live.
He played it at the appolo for merry Clayton.
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