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Guess it will take 2 to 3 weeks before we hear more about the new albums to be released and tour info??

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Guess it will take 2 to 3 weeks before we hear more about the new albums to be released and tour info??

Jeroen

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Lol well yeah but I can deal with that. It's all gravy if that is the case. As long as we get some official word here within the next 2-3 weeks and as long as it is released before December 2016 or 2017 I have no bitch ..


But mate.. they are talking about nothing being on their agenda studio album wise this year because of a bad market.. meaning it indicates they may not release it this year and we wont even get word until around the new year as to when the new album is coming.

THAT is waaaaaaaay tooooo lame. Other wise.. if its news simply delayed for a couple weeks and the album is pushed back a month I can live with all that (no probs there) // however it appears they may not get to it this year at all? That is where I say .. screw it -.

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C'mon boys, kick us like you've kicked before! Where's the Stones swagger, cause we haven't seen it since Some Girls, maybe a bit on VL. It's been way toooo long! Let's get off the 20 year victory lap and kick some ass one more time!

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C'mon boys, kick us like you've kicked before! Where's the Stones swagger, cause we haven't seen it since Some Girls, maybe a bit on VL. It's been way toooo long! Let's get off the 20 year victory lap and kick some ass one more time!

After over 300-350 songs written (or released) by both Mick/Keith as group or solos what can you expect?
They will not take the world by surprise on 2016, rock is not important anymore, sales are even less important, a decent set of songs well produced is the most we can expect.

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The best way to sum the situation up is what was said here regarding the 'poor old Stones' and our unappreciative attitude toward their reluctance (and laziness studio wise) is that


- Their ticket prices are through the roof. They have no issue getting out to tour and do shows? Hmmmm?

Seeing that the majority of the audience attending the shows has no problem with nothing past 1981 perhaps they should charge more.

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- If they are going to always want top dollar (<which they do) and tout themselves as a fully functional act (<which they do) ... they should also record and release new albums here and again ..not saying every year or other year.. but here and again. >>>They have had two friggin albums in 22 years... Isn't that telling people something who might disagree?

- 'Paul McCartney, AC / DC, Dylan, and Springsteen .. and U2, Neil Young etc (if you even count U2) those acts have no problems recording albums AND touring..

While U2 recorded SONGS OF INNOCENCE they also worked on another album, which they have been finishing up. McCartney's last album was in 2013 - not that long ago - but he's been releasing a new LP "often" enough that has kept his momentum going for the quack aspect of "relevance" for some people. He clearly doesn't need to do new albums but it proves that he's not "resting on his laurels" of The Beatles.

Bruce keeps doing new stuff. It boils down to wanting to. The Stones haven't wanted to, hence Keith's excellent CROSSEYED HEART. It may seem a bit odd that Mick hasn't done a solo album since 2001 between the gap of 2007 and 2012 but considering the reception of that GODDESS got perhaps he finally got the message - nobody cares. That garbage he did with SuperLame was pathetic. His solo work has never held the level that Keith's solo work has, which is the word "good".

AC/DC, on the other hand... 1995 was BALLBREAKER, a very underwhelming album (especially considering Rick Rubin got his dream to produce). 5 years later the damn good STIFF UPPER LIP came out. 8 years after that was the pretty damn good BLACK ICE. 6 years later was the rather bland ROCK OR BUST.

So they've been consistent... in a dragged out kind of way. But if you compare their recent output to the Stones... it's kind of similar.

1994 to 1995
1997 to 2000
2005 to 2008
nothing... to 2014

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Think of what they ask in ticket prices. Think of all the shows they do raking in millions. Think of all the time they have put into re-releases .. and other crap we really don't care about. Do we really need Exhibitionism? They had much more accountability with going along to showcase that than anything remotely close when it comes to getting an album out

I thought Mick had said something years ago about not wanting to be a piece in a museum...

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There's no excuse after 11 years and lots of talk and now further push backs. It's become ridiculous.

The Stones used to be excellent at the ridiculous. Perhaps this is their newest way.

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Ian, why announce a release date NOW if the album will be out in 2-3 months?
ABB got a lot of hype during the previous months/weeks of release, it got leaked two weeks before, the band was already touring for 3 weeks and by the time it was released it was yesterday's papers.

A release date with short time notice is the way to go, it won't sell much more but the buzz will be more effective.

Ian why don't you take a time off the Stones' world for a while? Let the guys do what they want, you'll find news soon.

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Ian, why announce a release date NOW if the album will be out in 2-3 months?
ABB got a lot of hype during the previous months/weeks of release, it got leaked two weeks before, the band was already touring for 3 weeks and by the time it was released it was yesterday's papers.

A release date with short time notice is the way to go, it won't sell much more but the buzz will be more effective.

Ian why don't you take a time off the Stones' world for a while? Let the guys do what they want, you'll find news soon.

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I agree.... but am I missing something? I thought you said your scoopers from Universal said The Stones have nothing planned studio release wise this year based on their marketing meeting? I also thought they said they are waiting this market out (in so many words). I took it as don't expect anything until Spring or next year some time is how I took it?

If they still are to have an album out this October / November Im still VERY VERY stoked (and cool) with that and I can certainly wait another month for some real news. However I thought they were saying nothing is planned nor looks to be so promising for a Stones studio release this year based on their release schedule they were updated with last week? >>> At least that's certainly the way I read and took it (I think most all of us did)?

Your report (which we certainly look forward to and appreciate) sort of said.. well it 'did' say .. It's a no go... officially through November there is no Stones studio release and most likely nothing looks to be on the horizon.... quite possibly nothing until some time next year due to poor market sales... which is precisely why I was so bloody let down and disappointed... Can you clarify for us?

Releasing something some time next year is Bullocks. Too much Bullocks for me to deal with at this point by now.

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C'mon boys, kick us like you've kicked before! Where's the Stones swagger, cause we haven't seen it since Some Girls, maybe a bit on VL. It's been way toooo long! Let's get off the 20 year victory lap and kick some ass one more time!

After over 300-350 songs written (or released) by both Mick/Keith as group or solos what can you expect?
They will not take the world by surprise on 2016, rock is not important anymore, sales are even less important, a decent set of songs well produced is the most we can expect.

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It seems to me that the new CD will come out, and have one predictable single, another 3-4 semi-interesting tracks, one Keith 'lounge singer' track, and the rest filler. There will be a buzz for a few days, and then interest will fade. Nothing different from the last 4-5 CDs. I wish that they could break out of their comfort zone and try something different, not just running through the motions.

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Guess it will take 2 to 3 weeks before we hear more about the new albums to be released and tour info??

Jeroen

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Lol well yeah but I can deal with that. It's all gravy if that is the case. As long as we get some official word here within the next 2-3 weeks and as long as it is released before December 2016 or 2017 I have no bitch ..


But mate.. they are talking about nothing being on their agenda studio album wise this year because of a bad market.. meaning it indicates they may not release it this year and we wont even get word until around the new year as to when the new album is coming.

THAT is waaaaaaaay tooooo lame. Other wise.. if its news simply delayed for a couple weeks and the album is pushed back a month I can live with all that (no probs there) // however it appears they may not get to it this year at all? That is where I say .. screw it -.

I know how you feel Ian, but thats just the way it is. I have the feeling, the blues cd will be there, just before the US tour. i might be wrong, but i also think the Stones themselves dont feel quite at ease with this whole process.

Have patience, and good luck.
Jeroen

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Lol You have an art of disguising whether you are defending the Stones .. or agreeing in that they are possibly letting this particular album go without it's due and that they have been worse than everyone?

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Either way.. whether the others put out something mediocre or very good they are at least STILL trying to function as a working act all the way around. The Stones have not and now they are talking about waiting until the market is better?

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Two sentences pretty much sums it up: Several re-issues.... Several Tours .. a museum gig .. a couple films .. Lots of things.... However in 22 years (yes...22 years) we have had a whopping <2> studio albums... Now they are talking about waiting / holding off this year again ..>> I mean Bruh's ...seriously?

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Ian, why announce a release date NOW if the album will be out in 2-3 months?
ABB got a lot of hype during the previous months/weeks of release, it got leaked two weeks before, the band was already touring for 3 weeks and by the time it was released it was yesterday's papers.

A release date with short time notice is the way to go, it won't sell much more but the buzz will be more effective.

Ian why don't you take a time off the Stones' world for a while? Let the guys do what they want, you'll find news soon.

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I agree.... but am I missing something? I thought you said your scoopers from Universal said The Stones have nothing planned studio release wise this year based on their marketing meeting? I also thought they said they are waiting this market out (in so many words). I took it as don't expect anything until Spring or next year some time is how I took it?

If they still are to have an album out this October / November Im still VERY VERY stoked (and cool) with that and I can certainly wait another month for some real news. However I thought they were saying nothing is planned nor looks to be so promising for a Stones studio release this year based on their release schedule they were updated with last week? >>> At least that's certainly the way I read and took it (I think most all of us did)?

Your report (which we certainly look forward to and appreciate) sort of said.. well it 'did' say .. It's a no go... officially through November there is no Stones studio release and most likely nothing looks to be on the horizon.... quite possibly nothing until some time next year due to poor market sales... which is precisely why I was so bloody let down and disappointed... Can you clarify for us?

Releasing something some time next year is Bullocks. Too much Bullocks for me to deal with at this point by now.

Then kindly give it a rest.

Jus sayin.

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Ian, why announce a release date NOW if the album will be out in 2-3 months?
ABB got a lot of hype during the previous months/weeks of release, it got leaked two weeks before, the band was already touring for 3 weeks and by the time it was released it was yesterday's papers.

A release date with short time notice is the way to go, it won't sell much more but the buzz will be more effective.

Ian why don't you take a time off the Stones' world for a while? Let the guys do what they want, you'll find news soon.

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Well thanks Mr. Gaslight


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I agree.... but am I missing something? I thought you said your scoopers from Universal said The Stones have nothing planned studio release wise this year based on their marketing meeting? I also thought they said they are waiting this market out (in so many words). I took it as don't expect anything until Spring or next year some time is how I took it?

If they still are to have an album out this October / November Im still VERY VERY stoked (and cool) with that and I can certainly wait another month for some real news. However I thought they were saying nothing is planned nor looks to be so promising for a Stones studio release this year based on their release schedule they were updated with last week? >>> At least that's certainly the way I read and took it (I think most all of us did)?

Your report (which we certainly look forward to and appreciate) sort of said.. well it 'did' say .. It's a no go... officially through November there is no Stones studio release and most likely nothing looks to be on the horizon.... quite possibly nothing until some time next year due to poor market sales... which is precisely why I was so bloody let down and disappointed... Can you clarify for us?

Releasing something some time next year is Bullocks. Too much Bullocks for me to deal with at this point by now.

Then kindly give it a rest.

Jus sayin.

Don't worry IanBillen, obviously BILLPERKS doesn't mean what he said. He made that clear. Carry on.

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the band did a great job on promoting the reissue of Exile in 2010. Larry King live for Jagger and a week on Fallon. They didn't bother much with the Some Girls package a year later and the results showed sales wise.
They can sell if they are willing to go the extra mile. Do Fallon, and whoever is the new Larry King guy, and do Matt Lauer. They could even have Sheryl Crow and others do live songs off their new album on Fallon. Its 2016 and although it sickens me to say it, go on the damn ELLEN show if you have to for a 10 minute chat. i think McCartney has even done it. 10 years ago I would have screamed " Sell Outs" but its a new dawn. I dont even think the term or idea of SELLING OUT even matter anymore to be honest with you.
Do you remember when Milli Vanilli( or whatever they were called) caused an outrage when they gave back their grammy when it was found that they didnt sing on their own record? Today people could care less if Britney or Madonna lip sync entire shows or have someone else do the vocals on their album for them. Hell, you can be a guitar player just by holding it and its not even plugged in. The stones should do what they need to do to promote and sell their albums. This is the end of my psychotic rantings. LOL

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Some kind of Blues-tribute-album will not cause much excitement. So many have done that before and not very much people were interestet.

Not every-music-fan is a Stones-fan and not every Stones-fan is exactly a Blues-fan. So this would be a kind of special-interest-product without any chance to achieve a top-charts-position. And that is why I think this Blues-album will never be released, at least not as a stand-alone-product. It would sell less than Keith´s CH.

What I do think is that they release a new album of originals in spring 2017 - that will cause excitement. Finally a new album of originals after 12 years will be a bang in the media. The hype will be enormous and the album will reach the top-five without any doubt, maybe it will hit No. 1. A Blues-album will not even make a charts-entry or dwell at No.87. That´s for sure not what Mick has in mind.

The Stones (Mick most of all) always want their new albums to be at least as successful as the one before. So the album has to contain new original material.

Maybe they will sell the Blues album via their website, deluxe-packaged, handsigned and very expensive, just like their Brussel-Edition.

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Some kind of Blues-tribute-album will not cause much excitement. So many have done that before and not very much people were interestet.