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Quite sure: 'Havana Moon' on DVD/BR as package including the 'Olé Olé Olé!’-Documentary plus probably CD/LP.
A new Studio-Album maybe in Spring 2017 along with a Tour announcement in time for their 55th anniversary.
Only a guess ....
Jeroen
And laughing.
And shaking our heads.
I meant an LP, not videos.
i'm not doubting what you are saying Ian but could you give me a link to that Don Was interview.i've looked all over and can't find anything like it.
i could've been totally wrong and Keith may have changed his mind about the whole thing, if for no other reason than to get Mick back to his roots.
even though a blues cover album is a boring,un-original,horrible idea that has already been done more than once by other people, keith may have chosen the lesser of two evils.the Stones with nothing left to say plodding through a bunch of cover songs like a bar band or recording the next streets of love.
for now it looks like we are getting original new songs.if you hear Mick say"we're doing some different sounding things" look out,that means "we're sick of sounding like the Stones so instead we're gonna suck". then keith will call the brand new excercise in mediocrity " the best we've sounded since Exile"
Didn't know you were limiting to the chart showings to the UK. It's meaningless anyway since they band hasn't had a hit single in over 25 years. There were also singles and videos for "Following the River" and "No Spare Parts."
And nothing will chart higher than that, the UK chart is all about streaming right now, you could be #1 on sales and #30 on the main chart if the streams are low.
It's a sad fact and not for a new Stones' album alone.
I'm sure they are well aware that a new album won't be a big seller, but it will make noise in the press, give them some new material to tour behind, burnish their legacy, and please their fans...I do think all those things matter very much to them.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2016-08-07 00:23 by latebloomer.
"New albums don't matter anymore."
Not for sales, earning lots of money, Number One hits.
But surely it matters showing creativity as a group / band.
That you as a band still is able to pull out new good songs!!!!
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Re: New Rolling Stones studio album due out in 2016
Posted by:
Irix
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Date: August 5, 2016 20:15
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GasLightStreet
The Stones may release something this year.
Quite sure: 'Havana Moon' on DVD/BR as package including the 'Olé Olé Olé!’-Documentary plus probably CD/LP.
A new Studio-Album maybe in Spring 2017 along with a Tour announcement in time for their 55th anniversary.
Only a guess ....
Re: New Rolling Stones studio album due out in 2016
Posted by:
Rocky Dijon
()
Date: August 6, 2016 03:55
Album is being held back to mark the 50th anniversary of the Redlands bust. Marianne will get back in the rug and flash herself to police again. Exhibitionism past 70 isn't for the faint of heart.
Re: New Rolling Stones studio album due out in 2016
Posted by:
IanBillen
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Date: August 6, 2016 04:47
The reasons I got so pissed is because we keep getting updates on all kinds of other things ..
Stones in Mono .. Exhibitionism .. Havana Moon .. etc. etc. We get all kinds of product and updates on everything in between.
As well .. I thought Universal was supposed to brief select members of their marketing team yesterday about an upcoming Stones release? What happened to all that?
So being as nothing was leaked about that yesterday (I guess nothing occurred??)
I certainly figured yesterday was going to be the day we at least got some word on the 'what and when'.. ...
We got nothing .. (AGAIN lol) ...I was / am still irritated Lol and that was the straw that broke this camels back .. Lol
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Stones in Mono .. Exhibitionism .. Havana Moon .. etc. etc. We get all kinds of product and updates on everything in between.
As well .. I thought Universal was supposed to brief select members of their marketing team yesterday about an upcoming Stones release? What happened to all that?
So being as nothing was leaked about that yesterday (I guess nothing occurred??)
I certainly figured yesterday was going to be the day we at least got some word on the 'what and when'.. ...
We got nothing .. (AGAIN lol) ...I was / am still irritated Lol and that was the straw that broke this camels back .. Lol
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Re: New Rolling Stones studio album due out in 2016
Posted by:
BILLPERKS
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Date: August 6, 2016 06:02
We got nothing & liked it.
Re: New Rolling Stones studio album due out in 2016
Posted by:
Rocky Dijon
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Date: August 6, 2016 09:40
If Universal had a meeting yesterday and it leaked to IORR immediately, someone would likely be in a world of trouble. Patience.
Re: New Rolling Stones studio album due out in 2016
Posted by:
runrudolph
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Date: August 6, 2016 10:05
Quote
Rocky Dijon
Album is being held back to mark the 50th anniversary of the Redlands bust. Marianne will get back in the rug and flash herself to police again. Exhibitionism past 70 isn't for the faint of heart.
Jeroen
Re: New Rolling Stones studio album due out in 2016
Posted by:
stones40
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Date: August 6, 2016 10:42
Many thanks to BV for updating the Stones rumoured recordings due in the near future.( nothing likely in 2016 )
BV always provides genuine information and he obviously does have insight in to what is actually going on within the Stones camp.
This wonderful band of skinny English cats who have been around at the top for 54 years and it is sad that we have not had a new album since 2006 and nothing looks likely in 2016 either .
However there have been many other releases from the vault on DVD/CD that more than make up for that.
We can live and hope that one day the band will get together and complete a new Stones style record that we all are wishing for as Time Waits for no One and it Wont Wait for Me..
BV always provides genuine information and he obviously does have insight in to what is actually going on within the Stones camp.
This wonderful band of skinny English cats who have been around at the top for 54 years and it is sad that we have not had a new album since 2006 and nothing looks likely in 2016 either .
However there have been many other releases from the vault on DVD/CD that more than make up for that.
We can live and hope that one day the band will get together and complete a new Stones style record that we all are wishing for as Time Waits for no One and it Wont Wait for Me..
Re: New Rolling Stones studio album due out in 2016
Posted by:
matxil
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Date: August 6, 2016 13:09
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GasLightStreet
The Stones may release something this year.
There.
That should tidy things up for some people.
Re: New Rolling Stones studio album due out in 2016
Posted by:
matxil
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Date: August 6, 2016 13:09
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IanBillen____________________________________________Quote
Lorenz
Ian, you need to quit this thread for a while. I've done the same, you'll notice when there are news. Give it a rest
I know.. Im just saying.
Really.
And we're just reading.
And laughing.
Re: New Rolling Stones studio album due out in 2016
Posted by:
BILLPERKS
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Date: August 6, 2016 15:10
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matxilQuote
GasLightStreetQuote
IanBillen____________________________________________Quote
Lorenz
Ian, you need to quit this thread for a while. I've done the same, you'll notice when there are news. Give it a rest
I know.. Im just saying.
Really.
And we're just reading.
And laughing.
And shaking our heads.
Re: New Rolling Stones studio album due out in 2016
Posted by:
GasLightStreet
()
Date: August 6, 2016 18:22
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IrixQuote
GasLightStreet
The Stones may release something this year.
Quite sure: 'Havana Moon' on DVD/BR as package including the 'Olé Olé Olé!’-Documentary plus probably CD/LP.
A new Studio-Album maybe in Spring 2017 along with a Tour announcement in time for their 55th anniversary.
Only a guess ....
I meant an LP, not videos.
Re: New Rolling Stones studio album due out in 2016
Posted by:
Munichhilton
()
Date: August 6, 2016 18:36
They filmed a bunch of crap during the Zip Code tour like the 'hanging out' together at Buddy Guys and whatever it was in Dallas...guess that's all shelved.
Re: New Rolling Stones studio album due out in 2016
Posted by:
GasLightStreet
()
Date: August 6, 2016 18:58
Think of their last album single.
Ya can't can ya. Because no one but a few people knew it was even released!
Did ANYONE notice Biggest Mistake in 2006?
That's the last single they released from an album - TEN YEARS AGO.
No wonder people are having a hard time believing anything. But it seems that they're being quiet and even misleading on purpose.
Ya can't can ya. Because no one but a few people knew it was even released!
Did ANYONE notice Biggest Mistake in 2006?
That's the last single they released from an album - TEN YEARS AGO.
No wonder people are having a hard time believing anything. But it seems that they're being quiet and even misleading on purpose.
Re: New Rolling Stones studio album due out in 2016
Posted by:
Munichhilton
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Date: August 6, 2016 19:09
...and to think that wasn't even their biggest mistake...what an embarrassment
Re: New Rolling Stones studio album due out in 2016
Posted by:
GasLightStreet
()
Date: August 6, 2016 19:19
I have a feeling that Canada is still mad at them for that prank they pulled in 1986 with that pathetic single...
Re: New Rolling Stones studio album due out in 2016
Posted by:
Rocky Dijon
()
Date: August 6, 2016 19:21
Well let's see, I knew "Biggest Mistake" was the single, without a video, in Europe only. I also know they've released several singles since then, with videos, that have charted higher.
The thing is, Ronnie and Don Was have talked about what they're doing. Obviously, Mick and Keith and the label do not wish to do so. BV and others seemed to think there would be a tour or at least more than three gigs this Fall. That might have changed, too. Does it really matter if, for personal reasons, the band decides to delay a new album and tour dates?
The thing is, Ronnie and Don Was have talked about what they're doing. Obviously, Mick and Keith and the label do not wish to do so. BV and others seemed to think there would be a tour or at least more than three gigs this Fall. That might have changed, too. Does it really matter if, for personal reasons, the band decides to delay a new album and tour dates?
Re: New Rolling Stones studio album due out in 2016
Posted by:
GasLightStreet
()
Date: August 6, 2016 19:45
Biggest Mistake charted at 51 in the UK. Since then nothing has charted higher than that in the UK, which is, as far as anything new and non-album, just Plundered My Soul and Doom And Gloom.
Re: New Rolling Stones studio album due out in 2016
Posted by:
lem motlow
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Date: August 6, 2016 19:47
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lem motlow
ian billian-you do realize that when i posted about keith telling a fan on his website that he would never make an all blues record i wasn't talking about my neighbor keith or keith urban right?
there is no blues record,there is never gonna be a blues record.it was an idea someone had that morphed into a fact.in other words a bullshit internet rumor.it's a boring idea and has been done by clapton and aerosmith already,it's not gonna happen-ever.
i believe this girls story about the new album,why would she make herself out to be a lunatic by making up this crazy story?and she said it was new material,no covers which is exactly what it's going to be.
Someone called Ronnie Wood?!
[www.bbc.com]
[www.rollingstone.com]
well actually, NO. reading the articles really helps-in both of them he said the same thing-"we cut about 11 blues tracks and some originals"
he didn't say the blues songs would even make it to the album let alone be a seperate record.fans used their imaginations and it became fact-and it's not gonna happen.
________________________________________________
I 110% agreed with you on Ronnie Woods mentioning. He only explained they sort of got really going with some great Blues covers and how great it all was in that regard. I was not convinced it was at one time going to be an entire Blues album .. I was right there with you until one thing occurred ...
Don Was said word for word that they recorded a blues album .. a long awaited blues album .. Not enough for an entire blues album but that they actually recorded a blues album ..
The person interviewed him said he previously coaxed Don Was to try and do that and now they actually had and Don Was said that Ronnie Wood spilled the beans on that in that the blues album was done in two days and it's 'really' good.
So by that I figured .. 'Hmmmm.. well I guess Ronnie Wood WAS spot on... Don Was said they <recorded a blues album> .. '
However the girl on Twitter is saying what she heard was an entire new studio album (we knew they were working on new material all along just as well). I believe her as you do. She has no reason to lie and although her video could appear a bit scripted.. why would it be? What would be her angle? I think she is 'on the level' entirely.
For a while I thought perhaps it would be a two CD set. Now .. I am fairly darn sure we are getting at least a studio album .. Is there a blues album? Yes. There is. Will it get released any time soon ... or will it get included some how with the new stuff in an all in one product, Im just not sure.
But ... Don Was said very specifically he recorded a >> blues album with them (just as well). I heard him say it in a radio interview that was posted here word for word.
i'm not doubting what you are saying Ian but could you give me a link to that Don Was interview.i've looked all over and can't find anything like it.
i could've been totally wrong and Keith may have changed his mind about the whole thing, if for no other reason than to get Mick back to his roots.
even though a blues cover album is a boring,un-original,horrible idea that has already been done more than once by other people, keith may have chosen the lesser of two evils.the Stones with nothing left to say plodding through a bunch of cover songs like a bar band or recording the next streets of love.
for now it looks like we are getting original new songs.if you hear Mick say"we're doing some different sounding things" look out,that means "we're sick of sounding like the Stones so instead we're gonna suck". then keith will call the brand new excercise in mediocrity " the best we've sounded since Exile"
Re: New Rolling Stones studio album due out in 2016
Posted by:
bye bye johnny
()
Date: August 6, 2016 20:22
Don Was interview on RRR Radio's "Off The Record" - starts at 1:54:00
[ondemand.rrr.org.au]
Thanks to Rockman.
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Keith talked about the blues album a couple of weeks ago while doing press for his BBC documentary. Says it's coming out in "autumn", and Clapton guests on two songs - starts at 1:45:00
[www.bbc.co.uk]
[ondemand.rrr.org.au]
Thanks to Rockman.
-----
Keith talked about the blues album a couple of weeks ago while doing press for his BBC documentary. Says it's coming out in "autumn", and Clapton guests on two songs - starts at 1:45:00
[www.bbc.co.uk]
Re: New Rolling Stones studio album due out in 2016
Posted by:
Rocky Dijon
()
Date: August 6, 2016 21:31
Quote
GasLightStreet
Biggest Mistake charted at 51 in the UK. Since then nothing has charted higher than that in the UK, which is, as far as anything new and non-album, just Plundered My Soul and Doom And Gloom.
Didn't know you were limiting to the chart showings to the UK. It's meaningless anyway since they band hasn't had a hit single in over 25 years. There were also singles and videos for "Following the River" and "No Spare Parts."
Re: New Rolling Stones studio album due out in 2016
Posted by:
24FPS
()
Date: August 6, 2016 21:48
Screw it. New albums don't matter anymore. I'd rather hear the 2012 rehearsals with Bill to see if it caught the old magic.
Re: New Rolling Stones studio album due out in 2016
Posted by:
georgelicks
()
Date: August 6, 2016 22:45
Ok, here's the info about yesterday's Universal meeting: the only product confirmed for this year is the Havana DVD and the Ole tour documentary (both on sale on November), the band is still working on the album (on/off all the time) and here's the problem righ now: the market is in an all time low for sales.
The recent #1 albums are selling 40-50k (US) and 15-20k (UK) with drops of 60-70% on week 2, no one wants a new Stones' album after 10+ years selling 300k worldwide just like Keith's recent solo record.
The band/company is working with the timing of the market and some additional options* to maximize sales, it's all in the air right now.
*Additional options could be exclusive deals with streaming services or exclusive versions on Target, Itunes, etc with bonus tracks as the blues stuff.
The best selling rock album released this year (Red Hot Chili Peppers) has sold 600k worldwide in 7 weeks, ABB has sold that during the first week alone.
The recent #1 albums are selling 40-50k (US) and 15-20k (UK) with drops of 60-70% on week 2, no one wants a new Stones' album after 10+ years selling 300k worldwide just like Keith's recent solo record.
The band/company is working with the timing of the market and some additional options* to maximize sales, it's all in the air right now.
*Additional options could be exclusive deals with streaming services or exclusive versions on Target, Itunes, etc with bonus tracks as the blues stuff.
The best selling rock album released this year (Red Hot Chili Peppers) has sold 600k worldwide in 7 weeks, ABB has sold that during the first week alone.
Re: New Rolling Stones studio album due out in 2016
Posted by:
georgelicks
()
Date: August 6, 2016 22:48
Quote
GasLightStreet
Biggest Mistake charted at 51 in the UK. Since then nothing has charted higher than that in the UK, which is, as far as anything new and non-album, just Plundered My Soul and Doom And Gloom.
And nothing will chart higher than that, the UK chart is all about streaming right now, you could be #1 on sales and #30 on the main chart if the streams are low.
Re: New Rolling Stones studio album due out in 2016
Posted by:
georgelicks
()
Date: August 6, 2016 22:51
Quote
24FPS
Screw it. New albums don't matter anymore.
It's a sad fact and not for a new Stones' album alone.
Re: New Rolling Stones studio album due out in 2016
Posted by:
bye bye johnny
()
Date: August 6, 2016 23:42
Thanks for the intel, georgelicks.
Re: New Rolling Stones studio album due out in 2016
Posted by:
latebloomer
()
Date: August 7, 2016 00:22
Quote
georgelicksQuote
24FPS
Screw it. New albums don't matter anymore.
It's a sad fact and not for a new Stones' album alone.
I'm sure they are well aware that a new album won't be a big seller, but it will make noise in the press, give them some new material to tour behind, burnish their legacy, and please their fans...I do think all those things matter very much to them.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2016-08-07 00:23 by latebloomer.
Re: New Rolling Stones studio album due out in 2016
Posted by:
Bashlets
()
Date: August 7, 2016 01:09
IIMHO, since no new album, I wouldn't be surprised if the USA tour is limited also.
Re: New Rolling Stones studio album due out in 2016
Posted by:
mtaylor
()
Date: August 7, 2016 01:09
Quote
latebloomerQuote
georgelicksQuote
24FPS
Screw it. New albums don't matter anymore.
It's a sad fact and not for a new Stones' album alone.
I'm sure they are well aware that a new album won't be a big seller, but it will make noise in the press, give them some new material to tour behind, burnish their legacy, and please their fans...I do think all those things matter very much to them.
"New albums don't matter anymore."
Not for sales, earning lots of money, Number One hits.
But surely it matters showing creativity as a group / band.
That you as a band still is able to pull out new good songs!!!!
Re: New Rolling Stones studio album due out in 2016
Posted by:
IanBillen
()
Date: August 7, 2016 01:31
I thank you for the info Georgelicks. We appreciate it very much.
A new RS album isn't going to sell 10 million albums.. I figured the purpose of the new album is as was said.. to give them something to promote.. tour behind / in support of ....and to satisfy their fans and the public's curiosity... and to be creative again .. to add another chapter to their catalog.... Not to try and sell 15 million albums. Not to try and maximize sales even if it means waiting another year (Come on Really......?? ,... Seriously .. Hasnt this gone onlong enough lol?).
Not releasing an album because of a bad market is pretty stupid. I am sure it is not all their say.. but what does it really matter is they sell 700,000 copies or one million? .. It Isn't like if they wait six months they will probably sell five million copies or so .. It is not going to improve that much .. no way.
Either way it isnt going to sell very well because albums dont sell that well in todays world.
Im sure Universal has much say in the matter as well. However not releasing an album because of a poor market is idiotic IMO. What ever happened to caring about the music and releasing it after its done?
What are they going to do .. wait for album sales to come back strong (they may never again?.. sadly).
Whole thing is far more difficult than it should be by now. It isn't like we have had new studio albums and they simply wanna wait a bit this time. We have been waiting 11 years and there just seems to be too many variables and it is made all too complicated.
Whats wrong with writing and recording an album, releasing it, and doing shows to support it? Are The Stones and their camp and Universal interested in putting something out and having a product? Nope.. They are only interested in bottom line sales and being as how the market has changed for good.. they should know better and just release it in October or November... Around Christmas they could have a delux version with 10 additional blues tracks and for limited time only.
Wed all be happy -
Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 2016-08-07 02:28 by IanBillen.
A new RS album isn't going to sell 10 million albums.. I figured the purpose of the new album is as was said.. to give them something to promote.. tour behind / in support of ....and to satisfy their fans and the public's curiosity... and to be creative again .. to add another chapter to their catalog.... Not to try and sell 15 million albums. Not to try and maximize sales even if it means waiting another year (Come on Really......?? ,... Seriously .. Hasnt this gone onlong enough lol?).
Not releasing an album because of a bad market is pretty stupid. I am sure it is not all their say.. but what does it really matter is they sell 700,000 copies or one million? .. It Isn't like if they wait six months they will probably sell five million copies or so .. It is not going to improve that much .. no way.
Either way it isnt going to sell very well because albums dont sell that well in todays world.
Im sure Universal has much say in the matter as well. However not releasing an album because of a poor market is idiotic IMO. What ever happened to caring about the music and releasing it after its done?
What are they going to do .. wait for album sales to come back strong (they may never again?.. sadly).
Whole thing is far more difficult than it should be by now. It isn't like we have had new studio albums and they simply wanna wait a bit this time. We have been waiting 11 years and there just seems to be too many variables and it is made all too complicated.
Whats wrong with writing and recording an album, releasing it, and doing shows to support it? Are The Stones and their camp and Universal interested in putting something out and having a product? Nope.. They are only interested in bottom line sales and being as how the market has changed for good.. they should know better and just release it in October or November... Around Christmas they could have a delux version with 10 additional blues tracks and for limited time only.
Wed all be happy -
Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 2016-08-07 02:28 by IanBillen.
Re: New Rolling Stones studio album due out in 2016
Posted by:
terry
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Date: August 7, 2016 01:34
I was really looking forward to some new songs, as Mtaylor mentioned it's about
The stones still being creative.
The stones still being creative.
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