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LongBeachArena72
There's nothing really punk, in my opinion, about any Stones track.
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Naturalust
The beginning of a long "suck up" relationship between Jagger and Wenner. Hard to trust anything they print when they are willing to be bullied in this fashion. Anyway thanks for the backstory GLS.
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LongBeachArena72
There's nothing really punk, in my opinion, about any Stones track.
Indeed.
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LongBeachArena72
There's nothing really punk, in my opinion, about any Stones track.
Indeed.
So this issue is resolved for good. Stones = no punk.
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LongBeachArena72
There's nothing really punk, in my opinion, about any Stones track.
Indeed.
So this issue is resolved for good. Stones = no punk.
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LongBeachArena72
There's nothing really punk, in my opinion, about any Stones track.
Indeed.
So this issue is resolved for good. Stones = no punk.
Well in the same sense as Stones = no reggae I would agree. I actually still believe a few of those Some Girls tracks were influenced by punk as Jagger himself has inferred. But as DP pointed out this tune certainly has elements of punk, if they released it in 1979 everyone would probably be calling it just that.
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24FPS
Their last great album. Tattoo You was good, but the first side ain't that much, and the second side was from all over the 70s.
Some Girls was their last great album triumph. The sounds work as a unit, along with that swirly sound that blends it all together. I think that's why the bonus cuts from that time, though good, simply don't fit on this particular work of art. It's the last time we get that fresh off the presses look into the Stones' world, which at this time had reached its scandalous peak with the Toronto bust and tales of debauchery with the Prime Minister's wife. They were the Greatest Pop Band In The World again, with Disco, Punk, a Motown cover, Chucky Berry licks a bluesy Beast of Burden all over the charts.
This would be the last time a themed tour really dug deep into an album. And it was the peak of the Wood/Richards guitar combo, and damn Bill and Charlie were hot. It was the return of the Stones, their TRUE 'best album since Exile'. They would never again be this tight. They would never again achieve success in establishing an over all theme. Their last great summer album that everybody loved.
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keefriffhards
Don't know why this album always gets the conversation onto punk
Nothing from punk comes close to Some Girls
Couple of tracks loosely sound kind of punk, so what
Beast Of Burden, Miss you, Just My imagination, BTMMR, Far Away Eyes, punk my ass
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Turner68
Love the clash. And I do believe they were closet Stones fans.
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Naturalust
I've always been suspicious of the assertion that there was a lot of hatred from the punks toward the Stones. I think many probably felt that way about their later lifestyle and Mick's jetsetter ways being no longer "salt of the earth" enough to represent youthful music in a genuine way, and even their cozy record biz establishment values. But I get the feeling in was different with respect to Keith and his bohemian ways and that the punks all has a soft sot for Keith if not for Stones music in general. Of course I can understand their hatred once Miss You was released.
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keefriffhards
Don't know why this album always gets the conversation onto punk
Nothing from punk comes close to Some Girls
Couple of tracks loosely sound kind of punk, so what
Beast Of Burden, Miss you, Just My imagination, BTMMR, Far Away Eyes, punk my ass
Have you ever actually listened to NEVER MIND THE BOLLOCKS, HERE'S THE SEX PISTOLS, or the first Clash record, or anything by The Stooges?
This, for example, is better than anything on SOME GIRLS:
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Turner68
Love the clash. And I do believe they were closet Stones fans.
Of course, the Clash covered this great tune by the Bobby Fuller Four, they understood the connection between 50's & early/mid 60's rock and what they were doing:
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Naturalust
I've always been suspicious of the assertion that there was a lot of hatred from the punks toward the Stones. I think many probably felt that way about their later lifestyle and Mick's jetsetter ways being no longer "salt of the earth" enough to represent youthful music in a genuine way, and even their cozy record biz establishment values. But I get the feeling in was different with respect to Keith and his bohemian ways and that the punks all has a soft sot for Keith if not for Stones music in general. Of course I can understand their hatred once Miss You was released.
I think some of it could have definitely been for effect and to sell records. John Lydon, for one, was a master manipulator of the media. And you may be right about the differentiation between Mick and Keith. At the time, Mick was definitely seen as more responsible for the mid-70's malaise than Keith was. I mean, they were regarded by some punkers as essentially prog-rock, arena-rock, one step away from Genesis!
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keefriffhards
Don't know why this album always gets the conversation onto punk
Nothing from punk comes close to Some Girls
Couple of tracks loosely sound kind of punk, so what
Beast Of Burden, Miss you, Just My imagination, BTMMR, Far Away Eyes, punk my ass
Have you ever actually listened to NEVER MIND THE BOLLOCKS, HERE'S THE SEX PISTOLS, or the first Clash record, or anything by The Stooges?
This, for example, is better than anything on SOME GIRLS:
[www.youtube.com]
Of course i have
I know it all dude, i even bought the T shirt
Don't get on your high horse with me
The sex pistols are a joke, but that's my opinion and i'm entitled to it
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keefriffhards
Don't know why this album always gets the conversation onto punk
Nothing from punk comes close to Some Girls
Couple of tracks loosely sound kind of punk, so what
Beast Of Burden, Miss you, Just My imagination, BTMMR, Far Away Eyes, punk my ass
Have you ever actually listened to NEVER MIND THE BOLLOCKS, HERE'S THE SEX PISTOLS, or the first Clash record, or anything by The Stooges?
This, for example, is better than anything on SOME GIRLS:
[www.youtube.com]
Of course i have
I know it all dude, i even bought the T shirt
Don't get on your high horse with me
The sex pistols are a joke, but that's my opinion and i'm entitled to it
the whole point of the sex pistols was always that it was a joke. but their (only) album is definitely a great document of the punk movement.
i view the clash as the quintessential punk rock band, much more to say and play than what the sex pistols had going on.
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keefriffhards
Don't know why this album always gets the conversation onto punk
Nothing from punk comes close to Some Girls
Couple of tracks loosely sound kind of punk, so what
Beast Of Burden, Miss you, Just My imagination, BTMMR, Far Away Eyes, punk my ass
Have you ever actually listened to NEVER MIND THE BOLLOCKS, HERE'S THE SEX PISTOLS, or the first Clash record, or anything by The Stooges?
This, for example, is better than anything on SOME GIRLS:
[www.youtube.com]
Of course i have
I know it all dude, i even bought the T shirt
Don't get on your high horse with me
The sex pistols are a joke, but that's my opinion and i'm entitled to it
the whole point of the sex pistols was always that it was a joke. but their (only) album is definitely a great document of the punk movement.
i view the clash as the quintessential punk rock band, much more to say and play than what the sex pistols had going on.
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keefriffhards
Don't know why this album always gets the conversation onto punk
Nothing from punk comes close to Some Girls
Couple of tracks loosely sound kind of punk, so what
Beast Of Burden, Miss you, Just My imagination, BTMMR, Far Away Eyes, punk my ass
Have you ever actually listened to NEVER MIND THE BOLLOCKS, HERE'S THE SEX PISTOLS, or the first Clash record, or anything by The Stooges?
This, for example, is better than anything on SOME GIRLS:
[www.youtube.com]
Of course i have
I know it all dude, i even bought the T shirt
Don't get on your high horse with me
The sex pistols are a joke, but that's my opinion and i'm entitled to it
the whole point of the sex pistols was always that it was a joke. but their (only) album is definitely a great document of the punk movement.
i view the clash as the quintessential punk rock band, much more to say and play than what the sex pistols had going on.
Yes, The Clash was the best punk band; NEVER MIND THE BOLLOCKS the best punk album.
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Naturalust
... as DP pointed out this tune certainly has elements of punk, if they released it in 1979 everyone would probably be calling it just that.
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Naturalust
... as DP pointed out this tune certainly has elements of punk, if they released it in 1979 everyone would probably be calling it just that.
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The track would not have been the same. Plenty of 50's/60's R&B is racous etc, She Said Yeah is a 1965 Rolling Stones manifestation of all that, it's not punk at all.
Just because stuff that came later has similar elements doesn't mean this track has the same attitude and mindset behind it.
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LeonidP
It's hard to put into words what this album still means to me to this day ... it was my intro to the Stones and I've never turned back! Every song is classic Stones, to me. I always say this is #5, behind the big 4 -- to me all the other albums are well behind the top 5.
Punk? Not punk? What's the difference, the songs are still amazing. But to that topic, to those that say no punk, I think they are missing a big part of what punk is ... first of all, this gets lumped in as 'punk' because it was highly publicized in the press at that time, as the Stones answer to punk. In addition, punk is not only about he fast paced songs (and how could you possibly deny that with Whip, Lies, Respectable) but it is also about the attitude, anti-establishment, deviating from the norm ... if that doesn't describe the Stones to you, then I would say read up more about their history. The Stone were truly punk before that word even had its meaning in terms of music.