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DandelionPowderman
Don't under-estimate the sincerity of Country Honk, Let It Bleed and Monkey Man's lyrics...
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DandelionPowderman
Don't under-estimate the sincerity of Country Honk, Let It Bleed and Monkey Man's lyrics...
They are quite comical.
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35love
I thought about the original question for awhile
‘Is Some Girls the greatest RS album’
got frustrated trying to place an order of excellence on my tops
I tied the ‘big 4’ (no Goats)
but ‘Some Girls’
Yes, ‘Some Girls’ ranks in my tops.
And I do have to have a top 5. I refuse to rank out of that. Except Exile is my go to when I don’t know what to do.
Alright thanks.
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liddas
Truly can't believe the little love Imagination studio version gets here: it is a fantastic track!
I don't even see it as a proper cover. God knows what was on Whitfield/Strong's original papers? Temps (and the Funk Brothers) gave us one version, the stones another one.
Genius move by the Temps to release a ballad as a single (what the stones later did with Angie), genius move by the stones to reinvent a hit soul ballad as a rock anthem.
Love the groove, love Bill reinventing Jamerson great line, Keith the same with Willis' opening licks, Mick "fu@k you" delivery, Charlie's drum crescendo, Ronnie's dynamite finale, the orchestration of bu vocals, the guitar tones, the air.
Should I go on?
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liddas
Truly can't believe the little love Imagination studio version gets here: it is a fantastic track!
I don't even see it as a proper cover. God knows what was on Whitfield/Strong's original papers? Temps (and the Funk Brothers) gave us one version, the stones another one.
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DandelionPowderman
I guess "proper" meant on the right side of the quality-scale here
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liddas
Truly can't believe the little love Imagination studio version gets here: it is a fantastic track!
I don't even see it as a proper cover. God knows what was on Whitfield/Strong's original papers? Temps (and the Funk Brothers) gave us one version, the stones another one.
What do you mean by a proper cover - just that it's not like previous versions of it?
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The Temptations version is the original, and produced by the co-author of the song.
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liddas
Truly can't believe the little love Imagination studio version gets here: it is a fantastic track!
I don't even see it as a proper cover. God knows what was on Whitfield/Strong's original papers? Temps (and the Funk Brothers) gave us one version, the stones another one.
What do you mean by a proper cover - just that it's not like previous versions of it?
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The Temptations version is the original, and produced by the co-author of the song.
I meant that also the Temps version is an interpretation of someone else's composition.
Of course history says that Imagination was penned for the Temps, but what if the Temps had broke up in the early 70s? The "original" may have been an uptempo Diana Ross hit!
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Doxa
#MeToo.
I only count here the original studio recordings - so I don't care had they bettered them by playing live (I think the live version of "When The Whip Comes Down" in SUCKING IN THE 70's is clearly better than the studio original. "Imagination" is another one really discovering a new dimension while played live from 1978 to 1982) or played them to death (you all know which song in particular...)
1. Miss You - one of their very best tracks ever, the way the Stones transform their guitar-lead natural groove to a disco beat is simply outstanding. Hooks me everytime I listen to it, especially the long Maxi single version.
2. Beast of Burden - another true, shining Stones classic, right there in the mighty class of "Angie","Wild Horses" and "Ruby Tuesday"; probably the very last time Mick and Keith really contributed together to create something magical. Add there probably nicest recorded piece of 'ancient art of weaving' ever.
3. Respectable - punk-inspired Stones at their best - bare to the bones without a shame or any 'by-the-numbers' feel; most fresh-sounding rocker since EXILE tracks (and ever since).
4. Before They Make Me Run - after "Happy" Keith's best uptempo number ever, a beautifully written song. A clever use of his image, which gives the album some street-credibility to balance Jagger's ironic use of his own public persona in most of the songs in the album.
5. Faraway Eyes - a nice little country&western song, but it is especially Jagger's tongue-in-a-cheek attitude, which makes it memorable for me (who doesn't really appreciate or even stand mainstream C&W).
6. Shattered - an interesting, but not probably that well working attempt to test how slow the Stones can play their natural groove without falling apart.. drags, drags but Jagger with one of his strongest deliveries (and lyrics) saves the song.(This is the oddest piece in the album for me, and I have never really been sure what to think about it.)
7. Some Girls - a basic blues-based number but played with a passion (Charlie!) and Jagger's loureedish half-spoken delivery adds the rest to make it sound unique piece in their catalogue.
8. When The Whip Comes Down - another number the Stones answer to the punk challenge by going to the very 'basics'. The simplicity doesn't work so well as it does in "Respectable" though (but still well).
9. Imagination - a well-oiled, jamming garage band deconstructing a beautiful soul number. Works for me, but I guess one needs to be a helluva hardcore Stones and especially Pathe Marconi era fan to really appreciate the result.
10. Lies - a filler, but a filler fitting nicely to the context. The only number in the album does sound like the Stones both musically and lyrically are trying to copy punk rock, not just being inspired by it. And the result is not that good. For the groove-based The Stones rhythm section the tempo is way too straight-forward and fast, especially Charlie sounds lost. Jagger overdoes his shouting and doesn't sound convincing.
Anyway, judging SOME GIRLS song by song does not really do the album justice. It is the whole attitude, freshness, drive and focus in all over it that makes the album as a whole such a huge and important work. For undertanding the 'punk influence' in SOME GIRLS for that one needs a whole new, looong post of its own...
I hadn’t really properly listened to some girls for a long time. I loved everything about it, I don’t think there is a bad track. I haven’t played the bonus disc..yet. But the original album sure lives up to the hype!!
- Doxa
I hadn’t listened to Some Girls properly for a long time.. just played it twice through back to back it is brilliant. In my opinion it is worth the hype.. I haven’t played the bonus disc. I didn’t used to like Miss You... but I get it now.. and I think it’s about the whole attitude on the album. Lies is one that I didn’t know that well, and I enjoyed. Respectable I loved.. plus far away eyes is parody... but a very well played track...Quote
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Doxa
#MeToo.
I only count here the original studio recordings - so I don't care had they bettered them by playing live (I think the live version of "When The Whip Comes Down" in SUCKING IN THE 70's is clearly better than the studio original. "Imagination" is another one really discovering a new dimension while played live from 1978 to 1982) or played them to death (you all know which song in particular...)
1. Miss You - one of their very best tracks ever, the way the Stones transform their guitar-lead natural groove to a disco beat is simply outstanding. Hooks me everytime I listen to it, especially the long Maxi single version.
2. Beast of Burden - another true, shining Stones classic, right there in the mighty class of "Angie","Wild Horses" and "Ruby Tuesday"; probably the very last time Mick and Keith really contributed together to create something magical. Add there probably nicest recorded piece of 'ancient art of weaving' ever.
3. Respectable - punk-inspired Stones at their best - bare to the bones without a shame or any 'by-the-numbers' feel; most fresh-sounding rocker since EXILE tracks (and ever since).
4. Before They Make Me Run - after "Happy" Keith's best uptempo number ever, a beautifully written song. A clever use of his image, which gives the album some street-credibility to balance Jagger's ironic use of his own public persona in most of the songs in the album.
5. Faraway Eyes - a nice little country&western song, but it is especially Jagger's tongue-in-a-cheek attitude, which makes it memorable for me (who doesn't really appreciate or even stand mainstream C&W).
6. Shattered - an interesting, but not probably that well working attempt to test how slow the Stones can play their natural groove without falling apart.. drags, drags but Jagger with one of his strongest deliveries (and lyrics) saves the song.(This is the oddest piece in the album for me, and I have never really been sure what to think about it.)
7. Some Girls - a basic blues-based number but played with a passion (Charlie!) and Jagger's loureedish half-spoken delivery adds the rest to make it sound unique piece in their catalogue.
8. When The Whip Comes Down - another number the Stones answer to the punk challenge by going to the very 'basics'. The simplicity doesn't work so well as it does in "Respectable" though (but still well).
9. Imagination - a well-oiled, jamming garage band deconstructing a beautiful soul number. Works for me, but I guess one needs to be a helluva hardcore Stones and especially Pathe Marconi era fan to really appreciate the result.
10. Lies - a filler, but a filler fitting nicely to the context. The only number in the album does sound like the Stones both musically and lyrically are trying to copy punk rock, not just being inspired by it. And the result is not that good. For the groove-based The Stones rhythm section the tempo is way too straight-forward and fast, especially Charlie sounds lost. Jagger overdoes his shouting and doesn't sound convincing.
Anyway, judging SOME GIRLS song by song does not really do the album justice. It is the whole attitude, freshness, drive and focus in all over it that makes the album as a whole such a huge and important work. For undertanding the 'punk influence' in SOME GIRLS for that one needs a whole new, looong post of its own...
I hadn’t really properly listened to some girls for a long time. I loved everything about it, I don’t think there is a bad track. I haven’t played the bonus disc..yet. But the original album sure lives up to the hype!!
- Doxa
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nick1970
Certainly the lyrics might be problematic? in today’s PC world.
Lies seems to be a retort to the punk bands at the time, I think..
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Maindefender
Funny I thought Lies was a weak link until I was reciting the lyrics just the other day. It seemed to fit in with 2020-21 and really hit home(sorry Keith). Now I love it. Also was listening to a version of No Spare Parts, Jagger's lyrics were clear. Another great song, possibly better than Far Away Eyes
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Bjorn
Give mr Biden six months - and you cant no longer listen to Some girls. Or Brown Sugar.
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Bjorn
Give mr Biden six months - and you cant no longer listen to Some girls. Or Brown Sugar.
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Stoneage
Does someone know the story, shortly, behind the alternative sleeve to Some Girls (the album)?
Which wasn't pc at all. Was it rejected? Or did it even exist?
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Maindefender
Funny I thought Lies was a weak link until I was reciting the lyrics just the other day. It seemed to fit in with 2020-21 and really hit home(sorry Keith). Now I love it. Also was listening to a version of No Spare Parts, Jagger's lyrics were clear. Another great song, possibly better than Far Away Eyes
I'd take No Spare Parts over Lies....
same for Petrol Blues.
...but, they had their reasons.
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Bjorn
Give mr Biden six months - and you cant no longer listen to Some girls. Or Brown Sugar.
I wonder how he manages to do that. I mean, when I put my old vinyl copy of SOME GIRLS on, down here in Finland, what are his means to prevent me doing that? Shoot me with nuclear bombs?
I am sure there is some fantastic conspiracy theory to provide an explanation...
- Doxa