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Yeah, I meant the engineering details. Andy Johns was only involved in the first session then Harwood took over according to that interview.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2019-08-15 01:36 by TravelinMan.
That sounds familiar, and he was working with Jack Bruce.
Short & Curlies is trite rubbish. Absolute crap.
Dance Little Sister is nice - but for the persistent hisSSSSS noise that should have been less highlighted...
Dance Little Sister Dance
Dance Little Sister Dance
Rod
Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 2019-08-15 04:45 by bitusa2012.
Wasn’t that Glyn Johns?
That was his brother, wasn't it?
Have mercy on me.
No that's Andy's brother, Glyn.
Glyn has always been straight as an arrow while Andy adopted the "lifetyle" of Keith and Jimmy Miller around the time of the Nellcote sessions.
Some Stones insiders wonder if Andy's drug encouraged him to make outrageous statements like : "MT's leaving the Stones was my revenge against the band for mistreating me" or sth like that...
They haven't?
No and the interview does not prove Keith used only acoustic guitars on JJF.
On the right side of the stereo mix of JJF it is only electric guitars. A very different sound to the acoustic through philips cassette recorder heard on the left side.
Click the pic to open the Youtube link
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2019-08-15 15:57 by His Majesty.
You are forgiven my son.
That sure as shit doesn't sound like all acoustic guitars.
Yes it does.
Nope.
The philips cassette recording is on the left speaker.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2019-08-15 17:22 by His Majesty.
Haha, thank you. Forgiven, forgiven. You’re aaaall forgiven.
Yeah, my mistake...
Nasty bastard
What he probably meant is : "you can't shut up once you lay your hands on your guitar, you have to play on and on and on. It's great live when we need to extend a song but it doen't work in the studio where we need concision. The stone' style is based on concision, not 5-minute noodling".
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Re: Andy Johns - It's Only Rock N Roll Interview
Posted by:
dcba
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Date: August 15, 2019 00:06
Keith : "Listen man you're great on stage, but you're awful in the studio. Can you just go away for a bit?".
Wow...
Wow...
Re: Andy Johns - It's Only Rock N Roll Interview
Posted by:
TravelinMan
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Date: August 15, 2019 01:35
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TravelinMan
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Some things I found interesting:
• Andy Johns engineered the first It's Only Rock N Roll sessions in Germany, and Keith Harwood did the rest. Johns goes song by song with analysis, so it's cool to see what was recorded with/without him. So Nico can update his site.
• "Short And Curlies" was first done in Jamaica (I'm sure some of you know that), and Johns absolutely hates it.
• Apparently, he thinks "Dance Little Sister" is trash as well. The interviewer doesn't like Taylor's guitar work on that number.
• There is a lot of Led Zep info too if you're a fan.
• If you're and engineer you will absolutely GEEK out on this interview.
He's got Short And Curlies right. Or do you mean the engineering details?
25th - 30th November & 6th - 21st December: Kingston, Jamaica, Dynamic
Sounds Studios. Producer: Jimmy Miller. Sound engineer: Andy Johns (with
Carlton Lee). Additional musicians: Nicky Hopkins (p; first three weeks)/Billy
Preston (keyb; last week)
- After Muddy & Charlie (MJ/KR) -unverified
- Angie I (MJ/KR) -early version without strings and earlier vocal take, Nicky
Hopkins on piano; Crossfire Hurricane-version
- Brown Leaves I (MJ/KR) -unverified
- Can You Hear The Music I (MJ/KR) -unverified early version; Nicky Hopkins
on piano
- Coming Down Again I (MJ/KR) -unverified early version
- Criss Cross I (MJ/KR) -basic track, without sax
- Dancing With Mr. D. I (MJ/KR) -unverified early version; Nicky Hopkins on piano
- Doo Doo Doo Doo Doo I (MJ/KR) -unverified early version; Billy Preston on
keyboards
- English Rose (MJ/KR)
- Fast Talking Slow Walking (MJ/KR) -Nicky Hopkins on piano
- First Thing (MJ/KR) -unverified
- Four And In (MJ/KR) -unverified
- Give Us A Break (MJ/KR) -unverified
- 100 Years Ago I (MJ/KR) -unverified early version; Nicky Hopkins on piano
- Jamaica (MJ/KR) -unverified
- Man-Eating Woman (MJ/KR) -unverified
- Miami (MJ/KR) -unverified
- Separately (KR/MT) -Nicky Hopkins on piano; Jimmy Miller on percussion;
instrumental
- Short And Curlies I (MJ/KR) -unverified early version; Ian Stewart on piano
- Star Star I (MJ/KR) -unverified early version; Ian Stewart on piano
- Through The Lonely Nights (MJ/KR) -Nicky Hopkins on piano; single-version
- Tops I (MJ/KR) -instrumental
- Waiting On A Friend I (MJ/KR) -Nicky Hopkins on piano, Jimmy Miller on
percussion; "Waiting On My Friend"-version
- Winter I (MJ/KR) -Nicky Hopkins on piano; unverified early version without
strings
- You Should Have Seen Her Ass (MJ/KR) -Nicky Hopkins on piano
- Zabadoo (MJ/KR) -unverified
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Yeah, I meant the engineering details. Andy Johns was only involved in the first session then Harwood took over according to that interview.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2019-08-15 01:36 by TravelinMan.
Re: Andy Johns - It's Only Rock N Roll Interview
Posted by:
peoplewitheyes
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Date: August 15, 2019 01:53
I don't get the hate for Short and Curlies. Great rolling rhythm, perfect MJ/KR harmony vocals. Kind of repetitive and hypnotic, I think it's great.
Re: Andy Johns - It's Only Rock N Roll Interview
Posted by:
stonesstein
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Date: August 15, 2019 03:15
Dig Dance Little Sister - serious strut
Short & Curlies - different groove, but very fine sh!t!
All y'all'd KILL to see the band do a triplet of Starphunker followed by these 2, wouldn't y'all?
Kick me like you kicked before
I can't even feel the pain no more
"Rocks Off", Exile on Main Street
Rolling Stones, 1972
Short & Curlies - different groove, but very fine sh!t!
All y'all'd KILL to see the band do a triplet of Starphunker followed by these 2, wouldn't y'all?
Kick me like you kicked before
I can't even feel the pain no more
"Rocks Off", Exile on Main Street
Rolling Stones, 1972
Re: Andy Johns - It's Only Rock N Roll Interview
Posted by:
Glam Descendant
()
Date: August 15, 2019 03:27
Is Andy Johns the one that took credit for talking Taylor into leaving the band?
Re: Andy Johns - It's Only Rock N Roll Interview
Posted by:
TravelinMan
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Date: August 15, 2019 03:32
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Glam Descendant
Is Andy Johns the one that took credit for talking Taylor into leaving the band?
That sounds familiar, and he was working with Jack Bruce.
Re: Andy Johns - It's Only Rock N Roll Interview
Posted by:
Rocky Dijon
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Date: August 15, 2019 04:07
He did. He also took credit for putting Mick in his place for wanting to overdub other instruments. I like Andy's work a great deal as both an engineer and a producer, but he does often seem like he has a chip on his shoulder.
Re: Andy Johns - It's Only Rock N Roll Interview
Posted by:
bitusa2012
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Date: August 15, 2019 04:41
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buttons67
short and curlies is quite good, but cant stand dance little sister.
good album though, same standard as goats head soup.
Short & Curlies is trite rubbish. Absolute crap.
Dance Little Sister is nice - but for the persistent hisSSSSS noise that should have been less highlighted...
Dance Little Sister Dance
Dance Little Sister Dance
Rod
Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 2019-08-15 04:45 by bitusa2012.
Re: Andy Johns - It's Only Rock N Roll Interview
Posted by:
TravelinMan
()
Date: August 15, 2019 05:00
Quote
Rocky Dijon
He did. He also took credit for putting Mick in his place for wanting to overdub other instruments. I like Andy's work a great deal as both an engineer and a producer, but he does often seem like he has a chip on his shoulder.
Wasn’t that Glyn Johns?
Re: Andy Johns - It's Only Rock N Roll Interview
Posted by:
Glam Descendant
()
Date: August 15, 2019 05:05
I think Glyn was done with the Stones before then.
Re: Andy Johns - It's Only Rock N Roll Interview
Posted by:
Koen
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Date: August 15, 2019 05:35
Almost impossible to read on a small phone screen. Will have to wait until I’m at a larger screen. Thanks for sharing!
Re: Andy Johns - It's Only Rock N Roll Interview
Posted by:
Rockman
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Date: August 15, 2019 08:32
Coool read .…
fanks for pinning it up for us TravlinMan
ROCKMAN
fanks for pinning it up for us TravlinMan
ROCKMAN
Re: Andy Johns - It's Only Rock N Roll Interview
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
()
Date: August 15, 2019 09:21
Quote
Rocky Dijon
He did. He also took credit for putting Mick in his place for wanting to overdub other instruments. I like Andy's work a great deal as both an engineer and a producer, but he does often seem like he has a chip on his shoulder.
That was his brother, wasn't it?
Re: Andy Johns - It's Only Rock N Roll Interview
Posted by:
exil
()
Date: August 15, 2019 09:31
Nice.Lot of insite.
Re: Andy Johns - It's Only Rock N Roll Interview
Posted by:
Redhotcarpet
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Date: August 15, 2019 10:28
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TheflyingDutchmanQuote
RedhotcarpetQuote
TravelinMan
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Some things I found interesting:
• "Short And Curlies" was first done in Jamaica (I'm sure some of you know that), and Johns absolutely hates it.
• Apparently, he thinks "Dance Little Sister" is trash as well. The interviewer doesn't like Taylor's guitar work on that number.
I loooove Dance little sister but have to agree on Taylors solo on that one. Taylor is great on iorr of course but that solo doesnt suit the song.
Lord have mercy.
Have mercy on me.
Re: Andy Johns - It's Only Rock N Roll Interview
Posted by:
dcba
()
Date: August 15, 2019 11:41
Quote
Rocky Dijon
He did. He also took credit for putting Mick in his place for wanting to overdub other instruments.
No that's Andy's brother, Glyn.
Glyn has always been straight as an arrow while Andy adopted the "lifetyle" of Keith and Jimmy Miller around the time of the Nellcote sessions.
Some Stones insiders wonder if Andy's drug encouraged him to make outrageous statements like : "MT's leaving the Stones was my revenge against the band for mistreating me" or sth like that...
Re: Andy Johns - It's Only Rock N Roll Interview
Posted by:
GasLightStreet
()
Date: August 15, 2019 15:13
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His MajestyQuote
GasLightStreet
Just goes to prove that Keith used acoustic guitars on JJF and SFM, unlike what some people have recently insisted otherwise lately.
That is not what 'some people have recently insisted otherwise lately'.
They haven't?
Re: Andy Johns - It's Only Rock N Roll Interview
Posted by:
Elmo Lewis
()
Date: August 15, 2019 15:36
Some great stuff in that interview. Always like reading about someone who was really there.
Re: Andy Johns - It's Only Rock N Roll Interview
Posted by:
His Majesty
()
Date: August 15, 2019 15:44
Quote
GasLightStreet
They haven't?
No and the interview does not prove Keith used only acoustic guitars on JJF.
On the right side of the stereo mix of JJF it is only electric guitars. A very different sound to the acoustic through philips cassette recorder heard on the left side.
Click the pic to open the Youtube link
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2019-08-15 15:57 by His Majesty.
Re: Andy Johns - It's Only Rock N Roll Interview
Posted by:
keefriff99
()
Date: August 15, 2019 15:46
Fascinating interview.
Glyn and Andy are absolute legends.
Glyn and Andy are absolute legends.
Re: Andy Johns - It's Only Rock N Roll Interview
Posted by:
TheflyingDutchman
()
Date: August 15, 2019 16:08
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RedhotcarpetQuote
TheflyingDutchmanQuote
RedhotcarpetQuote
TravelinMan
[vintageking.com]
Some things I found interesting:
• "Short And Curlies" was first done in Jamaica (I'm sure some of you know that), and Johns absolutely hates it.
• Apparently, he thinks "Dance Little Sister" is trash as well. The interviewer doesn't like Taylor's guitar work on that number.
I loooove Dance little sister but have to agree on Taylors solo on that one. Taylor is great on iorr of course but that solo doesnt suit the song.
Lord have mercy.
Have mercy on me.
You are forgiven my son.
Re: Andy Johns - It's Only Rock N Roll Interview
Posted by:
GasLightStreet
()
Date: August 15, 2019 16:58
Quote
His MajestyQuote
GasLightStreet
They haven't?
No and the interview does not prove Keith used only acoustic guitars on JJF.
On the right side of the stereo mix of JJF it is only electric guitars. A very different sound to the acoustic through philips cassette recorder heard on the left side.
Click the pic to open the Youtube link
That sure as shit doesn't sound like all acoustic guitars.
Re: Andy Johns - It's Only Rock N Roll Interview
Posted by:
rootsman
()
Date: August 15, 2019 17:15
Quote
GasLightStreetQuote
His MajestyQuote
GasLightStreet
They haven't?
No and the interview does not prove Keith used only acoustic guitars on JJF.
On the right side of the stereo mix of JJF it is only electric guitars. A very different sound to the acoustic through philips cassette recorder heard on the left side.
Click the pic to open the Youtube link
That sure as shit doesn't sound like all acoustic guitars.
Yes it does.
Re: Andy Johns - It's Only Rock N Roll Interview
Posted by:
His Majesty
()
Date: August 15, 2019 17:16
Quote
rootsman
Yes it does.
Nope.
The philips cassette recording is on the left speaker.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2019-08-15 17:22 by His Majesty.
Re: Andy Johns - It's Only Rock N Roll Interview
Posted by:
Redhotcarpet
()
Date: August 15, 2019 17:31
Quote
TheflyingDutchmanQuote
RedhotcarpetQuote
TheflyingDutchmanQuote
RedhotcarpetQuote
TravelinMan
[vintageking.com]
Some things I found interesting:
• "Short And Curlies" was first done in Jamaica (I'm sure some of you know that), and Johns absolutely hates it.
• Apparently, he thinks "Dance Little Sister" is trash as well. The interviewer doesn't like Taylor's guitar work on that number.
I loooove Dance little sister but have to agree on Taylors solo on that one. Taylor is great on iorr of course but that solo doesnt suit the song.
Lord have mercy.
Have mercy on me.
You are forgiven my son.
Haha, thank you. Forgiven, forgiven. You’re aaaall forgiven.
Re: Andy Johns - It's Only Rock N Roll Interview
Posted by:
rootsman
()
Date: August 15, 2019 21:27
Quote
His MajestyQuote
rootsman
Yes it does.
Nope.
The philips cassette recording is on the left speaker.
Yeah, my mistake...
Re: Andy Johns - It's Only Rock N Roll Interview
Posted by:
His Majesty
()
Date: August 16, 2019 17:36
The acoustic philips cassette recorder recording is driving on underneath the electric guitar.
JJF isolated acoustic (Philips cassette recorder) and electric guitar
Like Keith say's in One Plus One during one of the scenes towards the end. "... talking about Jumpin' Jack Flash where you've got that track underneath that you can't actually hear, but which is there... "
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2019-08-16 18:59 by His Majesty.
JJF isolated acoustic (Philips cassette recorder) and electric guitar
Like Keith say's in One Plus One during one of the scenes towards the end. "... talking about Jumpin' Jack Flash where you've got that track underneath that you can't actually hear, but which is there... "
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2019-08-16 18:59 by His Majesty.
Re: Andy Johns - It's Only Rock N Roll Interview
Posted by:
vertigojoe
()
Date: August 16, 2019 17:53
Quote
dcba
Keith : "Listen man you're great on stage, but you're awful in the studio. Can you just go away for a bit?".
Wow...
Nasty bastard
Re: Andy Johns - It's Only Rock N Roll Interview
Posted by:
dcba
()
Date: August 16, 2019 17:58
Quote
vertigojoeQuote
dcba
Keith : "Listen man you're great on stage, but you're awful in the studio. Can you just go away for a bit?".
Wow...
Nasty bastard
What he probably meant is : "you can't shut up once you lay your hands on your guitar, you have to play on and on and on. It's great live when we need to extend a song but it doen't work in the studio where we need concision. The stone' style is based on concision, not 5-minute noodling".
Re: Andy Johns - It's Only Rock N Roll Interview
Posted by:
The Joker
()
Date: August 18, 2019 10:15
Quote
TravelinManQuote
Rocky Dijon
He did. He also took credit for putting Mick in his place for wanting to overdub other instruments. I like Andy's work a great deal as both an engineer and a producer, but he does often seem like he has a chip on his shoulder.
Wasn’t that Glyn Johns?
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