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Re: ALBUM TALK: Goats Head Soup
Posted by: 24FPS ()
Date: March 26, 2025 07:08

My stupid ears. They lied to me and told me the GHS sounded best on a Japanese SHM CD. I sat there and listened and had a whole new experience with what I always considered a jumble of an album. Now it sounds like a soul experience. Coming Down Again indeed. Damn my ears!!!

Re: ALBUM TALK: Goats Head Soup
Posted by: Mathijs ()
Date: March 26, 2025 11:36

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Mathijs, are you refering to the version on CD 2 on the GHS Super Deluxe?

In that case it's actually the white writing against the yellow background that confuse us as Jagger's name is written above the others. I missed it too but thought it odd that Charlie, bless him, would play guitar on the track grinning smiley

If I refer to the wrong version I apologize smileys with beer

The 'Outtake III' is a real outtake, I think that one was posted here on IORR first. The 'Hide Your Love – Alternative Mix' is from the Deluxe official release.

Mathijs

Re: ALBUM TALK: Goats Head Soup
Date: March 26, 2025 12:43

The deluxe take is a different version.

Re: ALBUM TALK: Goats Head Soup
Posted by: Mathijs ()
Date: March 26, 2025 14:06

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The deluxe take is a different version.

I wonder what the Deluxe version really is -it sounds more like a live take or rehearsal than a studio demo.

According to Nico Zentgraf Outtake III is from an acetate.

Mathijs

Re: ALBUM TALK: Goats Head Soup
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: March 26, 2025 20:57

I can't find the info, it may've been here, I checked a couple of things I have but keep going back to the "alternative version" of Hide Your Love is (supposedly) from the 1973 LA sessions.

Re: ALBUM TALK: Goats Head Soup
Posted by: Mathijs ()
Date: March 27, 2025 12:12

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I can't find the info, it may've been here, I checked a couple of things I have but keep going back to the "alternative version" of Hide Your Love is (supposedly) from the 1973 LA sessions.

Could also be from the Rotterdam Rehearsals, Taylor's solo's on these rehearsals are remarkebly close to the 'alternative version' and the lyrics and structure are fully developed.

Mathijs

Re: ALBUM TALK: Goats Head Soup
Posted by: Mathijs ()
Date: March 27, 2025 12:23

By the way, I never listened to these Rotterdam Rehearsals much due to the sound quality. But Captain Acid's 'Rotterdam Rehearsals 1973_Acid Project 067' is actually a really nice listen, much improved over anything else available.

Mathijs

Re: ALBUM TALK: Goats Head Soup
Posted by: TravelinMan ()
Date: March 27, 2025 23:01

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I was listening to Hide Your Love with headphones, and heard a guitar in the right channel for the first time! It comes in round 2:04 and does a classic Keith lick round 3:36.

The baritone sax comes in at 2:04

That blues lick at 3:36 sounds like a classic Taylor Bluesbreakers lick. It might have been from his original take.

Listen to how that lick ends, and you'll hear it's not Taylor.

I didn't mean the sax, there's also a rhythm guitar entering at 2:04.

I think all guitars are by Jagger and Taylor, I doubt Keith did a guitar overdub, he did overdub the bass.

Mathijs

A little more audible on this mix:
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It does sound like Keith.
At the end of the song too.

Indeed.

There’s the 'Hide Your Love outtake III': this is a different, earlier mix than the official version, now with the second guitar louder in the mix. This indeed is Richards, with his Les Paul Junior. So he did play guitar on the track!

Also never noticed before that on all versions it is Jagger on piano, but 'Hide Your Love – Alternative Mix on the official Deluxe version has Ian Stewart on piano, Jagger on rhythm guitar and Taylor lead guitar.

Mathijs

Yeah, you guys are right. The very end it is really obvious. A track where Richards is buried and not Taylor—a true anomaly.

So Richards probably went back and overdubbed bass when Wyman was out, maybe due to the robbery.

I always thought the bass sounded like an overdub and not entirely locked in. This makes a lot of sense.



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Re: ALBUM TALK: Goats Head Soup
Posted by: TravelinMan ()
Date: March 27, 2025 23:03

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I can't find the info, it may've been here, I checked a couple of things I have but keep going back to the "alternative version" of Hide Your Love is (supposedly) from the 1973 LA sessions.

Could also be from the Rotterdam Rehearsals, Taylor's solo's on these rehearsals are remarkebly close to the 'alternative version' and the lyrics and structure are fully developed.

Mathijs

Interesting. I always figured it was from Sticky Fingers

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