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According to a poster here, the entire backing track is slowed down. He’s correct, listen to the cymbal tone.

Why don't you just say who that poster is?

Mathijs

Jimmy Miller indeed has stated that they changed the speed of the tape for Jagger to accommodate his range. It's the C to G at the ending of the chorus where Jagger struggles a bit, 'Let me whisper in your ear'. And this is the same C to G-note of 'Can't You Hear Me Knocking' where Jagger struggled, and they also lowered the speed tape and added Taylor's higher ranged vocals to make up for Jagger.

But using VSO to alter the speed to record layers of vocals was common practice in the analogue tape days to ensure synchronization the new vocal tracks with the instrumental track, as there always is a delay between the playback head and the recording head. And if the singer required a little lower speed to accommodate the voice that was also standard practice.

Ps the original backing track of Angie as heard in Crossfire Hurricane was recorded in Jamaica.

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According to a poster here, the entire backing track is slowed down. He’s correct, listen to the cymbal tone.

Why don't you just say who that poster is?

Mathijs

It was you or Neddie Flanders IIRC

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According to a poster here, the entire backing track is slowed down. He’s correct, listen to the cymbal tone.

Why don't you just say who that poster is?

Mathijs

It was you or Neddie Flanders IIRC

Yeah sure.

Mathijs

Neddie said the working title was Give Us A Break and Mathijs said it was slowed down.

A handful of songs were re-cut in LA and England as well.

Which guitar on Heartbeaker does Keith play.I know Taylor plays the 2solos , but does he play anyother?Or are the rest of the guitars just Keith?



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Which guitar on Heartbeaker does Keith play.I know Taylor plays the 2solos , but does he play anyother?Or are the rest of the guitars just Keith?

Richards plays the main rhythm guitar in the left channel, and the bass. In the right channel is Billy Preston's clavinet. Taylor plays the two solo's.

Mathijs

Apologies if this has already been mentioned, but I went to see the new movie The Running Man last night - there is quite a big action scene where Heartbreaker is played through the whole segment.

Fact is we have almost zero pictures, movie and trivia on that recording.

I understand the Stones lived in an hotel (can't remember which).

The only intel that comes to minde is a section from their official Website, which is quite lean

[experience.rollingstones.com]

And some pictures from a Japanese magazine
[rollingstonesdata.com]

Please share if you have more. Thanks.

Maybe there're more infos in the 2020 Goats Head Soup reissue thread - [iorr.org] .

Infos about the recording session can be found on [www.NZentgraf.de] , [StonesSessions.com] , [Aeppli.ch] .

Maybe the references in the [en.Wikipedia.org] GHS article could help as well.

Thanks. I mean more trivia. Something a bit like Villa Nellcote. But then, there was no Dominique Tarlé.

I think a lot of Goats was re-recorded in LA and Olympic because their original sessions were not so hot.

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I think a lot of Goats was re-recorded in LA and Olympic because their original sessions were not so hot.

No, that just isn't true. Firstly, from October 1970 to May 1989 the Stones did not record at Olympic, except for Hide Your Love in May 1973.

The sessions at Village Recorders in LA in January 1973 are vague -they were rehearsing at SIR for the Nicaragua Benefit show and the Winter tour. According to Engineer Tapani Talo they used the LA studio to transfer the Jamaican tapes to multitrack tapes, according to the Atlantic recording files they rehearsed and jammed a bit, according to (if memory serves) Mick Taylor they did some overdubs. It appears they did not make any new recordings there.

The recordings from Jamaica were overdubbed, finished and mixed at Island Studio in London in May and June 1973. No new backing tracks were recorded -Watts and Wyman were not present.

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I understand the Stones lived in an hotel (can't remember which).

The Terra Nova hotel, which was the home of Chris Blackwell, founder of Island Records.

Ps: it can still be booked today, looking really posh and expensive but actually relatively affordable.

Mathijs



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Fact is we have almost zero pictures, movie and trivia on that recording.

Fact is that from 1971 on, the number of pictures from studio's is very, very limited. The entire Pathe Marconi sessions in 1977 and 1978, and the Nassau sessions in 1979 only have a couple of pics known. There's no pictures from 1981 that I know off, and 1982/1983 just a couple. Starting from 1985 we start to have some more pictures and even video.

Mathijs

Terra Nova from Rockman's thread.

[iorr.org]

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Terra Nova from Rockman's thread.

[iorr.org]

Great article on the LA 1973 sessions! Appears they indeed only were transferring and remixing the Jamaican recordings, and not recording new tracks or overdubs.

Mathijs

Thanks!

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Fact is we have almost zero pictures, movie and trivia on that recording.

Fact is that from 1971 on, the number of pictures from studio's is very, very limited. The entire Pathe Marconi sessions in 1977 and 1978, and the Nassau sessions in 1979 only have a couple of pics known. There's no pictures from 1981 that I know off, and 1982/1983 just a couple. Starting from 1985 we start to have some more pictures and even video.

Mathijs

The descriptions given about Mick overdubbing in Paris in 1980 for TATTOO YOU make it sound awful. Perhaps that's why no pictures were taken. If that's true.

The magazine, Mick on the cover, Carly Simon was holding featured a detailed report on the Jamaica recording sessions.

It's packed with stuff like footage of the recording session of Star Star and Paul Rodgers and Simon Kirke, Island's connection, were there at Terra Nova.

Have to say that at the time it was a bit of a let down after the incredible Exile - but time has proven it to be a really solid release -

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Have to say that at the time it was a bit of a let down after the incredible Exile - but time has proven it to be a really solid release -

You thought EXILE was the greatest Stones album ever in 1973?

It makes sense why EOMS was not considered anything like before in 1972 - double album, noisy and muddy, with no jump out real hit songs - in comparison to previous albums and singles. Tumbling Dice is an obvious single. Perhaps Rocks Off and All Down The Line should've been released as singles. Instead Happy was the second and last single.

Why a third and possibly fourth single wasn't released for a double album is strange but two, which seemed to be the usual for a while - except for BEGGARS - one - and BLEED - zero, at the time of release - continued.

Since 1989 it seems to average four.

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Have to say that at the time it was a bit of a let down after the incredible Exile - but time has proven it to be a really solid release -

You thought EXILE was the greatest Stones album ever in 1973?

It makes sense why EOMS was not considered anything like before in 1972 - double album, noisy and muddy, with no jump out real hit songs - in comparison to previous albums and singles. Tumbling Dice is an obvious single. Perhaps Rocks Off and All Down The Line should've been released as singles. Instead Happy was the second and last single.

Why a third and possibly fourth single wasn't released for a double album is strange but two, which seemed to be the usual for a while - except for BEGGARS - one - and BLEED - zero, at the time of release - continued.

Since 1989 it seems to average four.

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I believe All Down the Line was actually the first single (oddly).

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Have to say that at the time it was a bit of a let down after the incredible Exile - but time has proven it to be a really solid release -

You thought EXILE was the greatest Stones album ever in 1973?

It makes sense why EOMS was not considered anything like before in 1972 - double album, noisy and muddy, with no jump out real hit songs - in comparison to previous albums and singles. Tumbling Dice is an obvious single. Perhaps Rocks Off and All Down The Line should've been released as singles. Instead Happy was the second and last single.

Why a third and possibly fourth single wasn't released for a double album is strange but two, which seemed to be the usual for a while - except for BEGGARS - one - and BLEED - zero, at the time of release - continued.

Since 1989 it seems to average four.

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I believe All Down the Line was actually the first single (oddly).

Keep believing.

Exile On Main Street Blues was the first "single", and that release was odd.

Where was All Down The Line released as a single, Send It To Me?

B-side of Happy ?

Well, the only 'global' single was Tumbling Dice, wasn't it? The others were U.S.A.-only, right?

All Down the Line was the B side of the Happy single.It was released inUS in the summer of 1972.Mick according to some story wanted it as the A side single, but it was not released in that position.

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All Down the Line was the B side of the Happy single.It was released inUS in the summer of 1972.Mick according to some story wanted it as the A side single, but it was not released in that position.

Ah, okay. I was wondering, though: did the Stones have much input regarding stateside releases during the 70's? With the likes of December's Children etc, that didn't seem to be the case throughout the preceding decade. Certainly, Zeppelin didn't want Whole Lotta Love released as a single.

All Down the Line was one of the first tracks previewed. There is a story, granted don't know if true or not, where MJ and others requested a DJ from LA radio station to play ADTL while they were cruising the Sunset Strip, prior to the release of EOMS in Spring of '72 maybe a few months earlier when they were in LA cutting and mixing EOMS.

Again, don't know if accurate, but that could be what some might think ADTL was first released track on EOMS, even if "unofficial." I think Tumbling Dice as a single was released prior to the full release of the album in Spring of '72. Don't know for certain, I was 7 years old. Just going to by what I have read over the years.

As for GHS, it has stood up to the test of time. My least favorite record of the Golden Era for the stones and yet MT is freaking fabulous on this record. What a loss to the band with his departure the following year. Yet, only with RW, not MT, do we get another great album Some Girls.

Love GHS now. Great thread