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Re: ALBUM TALK: Let It Bleed
Posted by: pepganzo ()
Date: September 13, 2015 00:38

... and also the artwork is fantastic! Perfect work.

Re: ALBUM TALK: Let It Bleed
Posted by: SuperC ()
Date: September 13, 2015 00:43

I've tried. After GS, and maybe Sliver, I usually move on to BB, EOMS, a Bootleg, GHS, B&B, or pre - 69 stuff, etc. I have a long drive next week and determined to listen from start to finish in transit. Ill consider it a mission.......

Re: ALBUM TALK: Let It Bleed
Posted by: Turner68 ()
Date: September 13, 2015 01:03

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SuperC
I've tried. After GS, and maybe Sliver, I usually move on to BB, EOMS, a Bootleg, GHS, B&B, or pre - 69 stuff, etc. I have a long drive next week and determined to listen from start to finish in transit. Ill consider it a mission.......

Are you sure you read the instruction manual? It's very explicit. THIS RECORD SHOULD BE PLAYED LOUD


Re: ALBUM TALK: Let It Bleed
Posted by: SuperC ()
Date: September 13, 2015 02:27

Oh, it will be played loud.

Re: ALBUM TALK: Let It Bleed
Posted by: LongBeachArena72 ()
Date: September 13, 2015 06:07

I have such a weird relationship to this album. I think I've always thought of it more as a greatest hits compilation than as the next record after BEGGARS BANQUET.

The first Stones record I bought the day it came out was EOMS. A few months earlier, I'd gotten into HOT ROCKS, and so knew most of what we refer to today as warhorses. Over the next year or two, I built up my Stones vinyl collection, starting with STICKY FINGERS and working backwards ... but for reasons never entirely clear to me I never owned a copy of the LET IT BLEED vinyl until years later.

Although it contained my all-time favorite Stones studio cut--"Gimme Shelter"--I somehow never regarded it as a cohesive album, in the same way I saw BB, EOMS, and SF. It seemed more ... I don't know ... constructed rather than an organic whole. Its pieces were arguably the best tracks The Stones ever cut but it didn't hang together for me like the other three as long playing records meant to be listened to in order at one sitting.

I don't know if this is making any real sense, or if anyone else has had an experience remotely similar with LET IT BLEED. It's one of the best rock albums of all time ... and yet I'm still not sure I would rank it higher than 4th in my pantheon of personal favorites among The Stones' discography.

Re: ALBUM TALK: Let It Bleed
Posted by: LeonidP ()
Date: September 13, 2015 19:48

It is truly an amazing album from start to finish ... almost.

I admit it is hard listening to Midnight Rambler after you've heard the live versions. For me, I owned Hot Rocks first, which has the great YaYa version of Midnight Rambler ... then I got Let It Bleed later and the studio version just doesn't have that power and energy. It is a bit of a letdown.

Re: ALBUM TALK: Let It Bleed
Posted by: Olly ()
Date: September 13, 2015 20:21

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LeonidP
...I admit it is hard listening to Midnight Rambler after you've heard the live versions. For me, I owned Hot Rocks first, which has the great YaYa version of Midnight Rambler ... then I got Let It Bleed later and the studio version just doesn't have that power and energy. It is a bit of a letdown.


I consider 'Midnight Rambler' one of the songs in the Stones catalogue that is better on record than on stage.

Nothing about it lets me down.

.....

Olly.

Re: ALBUM TALK: Let It Bleed
Posted by: Turner68 ()
Date: September 13, 2015 20:24

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LeonidP
It is truly an amazing album from start to finish ... almost.

I admit it is hard listening to Midnight Rambler after you've heard the live versions. For me, I owned Hot Rocks first, which has the great YaYa version of Midnight Rambler ... then I got Let It Bleed later and the studio version just doesn't have that power and energy. It is a bit of a letdown.

it's certainly notable that on "hot rocks" the live version of "midnight rambler" was selected.

Re: ALBUM TALK: Let It Bleed
Posted by: Redhotcarpet ()
Date: September 13, 2015 20:25

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Turner68
Quote
SuperC
I've tried. After GS, and maybe Sliver, I usually move on to BB, EOMS, a Bootleg, GHS, B&B, or pre - 69 stuff, etc. I have a long drive next week and determined to listen from start to finish in transit. Ill consider it a mission.......

Are you sure you read the instruction manual? It's very explicit. THIS RECORD SHOULD BE PLAYED LOUD


Thank you. Ive said it a many times: follow the instructions. I play this album loud. It is one of the best in rock. If not the best.

Re: ALBUM TALK: Let It Bleed
Posted by: Redhotcarpet ()
Date: September 13, 2015 20:26

Quote
LongBeachArena72
I have such a weird relationship to this album. I think I've always thought of it more as a greatest hits compilation than as the next record after BEGGARS BANQUET.

The first Stones record I bought the day it came out was EOMS. A few months earlier, I'd gotten into HOT ROCKS, and so knew most of what we refer to today as warhorses. Over the next year or two, I built up my Stones vinyl collection, starting with STICKY FINGERS and working backwards ... but for reasons never entirely clear to me I never owned a copy of the LET IT BLEED vinyl until years later.

Although it contained my all-time favorite Stones studio cut--"Gimme Shelter"--I somehow never regarded it as a cohesive album, in the same way I saw BB, EOMS, and SF. It seemed more ... I don't know ... constructed rather than an organic whole. Its pieces were arguably the best tracks The Stones ever cut but it didn't hang together for me like the other three as long playing records meant to be listened to in order at one sitting.

I don't know if this is making any real sense, or if anyone else has had an experience remotely similar with LET IT BLEED. It's one of the best rock albums of all time ... and yet I'm still not sure I would rank it higher than 4th in my pantheon of personal favorites among The Stones' discography.

Interesting points. Makes sense.

Re: ALBUM TALK: Let It Bleed
Posted by: Moonshine ()
Date: September 13, 2015 20:50

Where to start with this monster. Iconic sleeve, thanks for the cake Delia. Assume the knocked over figure refers to Brian.
The perfect stones album, until Sticky pipped it.

GS. Brutal, tense, apocalyptic, lots more. Merry Clayton takes it even higher.
LIV. Beautiful come down after GS, a lovely thing.
CH. leave off a monster no 1 hit and put out this instead, love the ere we go.
LWM. Welcome Bobby, prefer it live.
LIB. Decadence, filthy metaphors. One of their all time best.
MR. The opus. Studio version only hints at what it would become live over the next few years.
YGTS. Brilliant track, there is a version of MJ on lead vocals but it impossible to top this for feeling.
MM. Wonderful Nicky Hopkins, only thing that slightly let's it down are the throwaway lyrics.
YCAGWYW. All time anthem, this full length version the best. Let it flood over you

Re: ALBUM TALK: Let It Bleed
Posted by: pepganzo ()
Date: September 13, 2015 21:16

I think that this album has got a particular atmosphere.

If you delete from the tracklist: LIV, CH, LIB and YGTS this album is not the same.
I agree with who said that it is an evolution and more dirty version of BB (as the Beatles did in 1965). And I think that also SF has the same ''costruction'' or ''profile'' of LIB, it is just harder and more sophisticated, studied.

From the other hand LIB is brutal, tense, apocalyptic thanks to some acoustic tracks and thanks to tracks like GH. It's not a rock album. Paradoxically there are just three tracks with strong guitars.

This is perfection.

Re: ALBUM TALK: Let It Bleed
Date: September 14, 2015 15:17

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Moonshine
Where to start with this monster. Iconic sleeve, thanks for the cake Delia. Assume the knocked over figure refers to Brian.
The perfect stones album, until Sticky pipped it.

GS. Brutal, tense, apocalyptic, lots more. Merry Clayton takes it even higher.
LIV. Beautiful come down after GS, a lovely thing.
CH. leave off a monster no 1 hit and put out this instead, love the ere we go.
LWM. Welcome Bobby, prefer it live.
LIB. Decadence, filthy metaphors. One of their all time best.
MR. The opus. Studio version only hints at what it would become live over the next few years.
YGTS. Brilliant track, there is a version of MJ on lead vocals but it impossible to top this for feeling.
MM. Wonderful Nicky Hopkins, only thing that slightly let's it down are the throwaway lyrics.
YCAGWYW. All time anthem, this full length version the best. Let it flood over you

Regarding MM: Didn't you forget the main cool thing about this track? The fantastic guitar playing!

Re: ALBUM TALK: Let It Bleed
Date: September 14, 2015 15:23

Quote
LongBeachArena72
I have such a weird relationship to this album. I think I've always thought of it more as a greatest hits compilation than as the next record after BEGGARS BANQUET.

The first Stones record I bought the day it came out was EOMS. A few months earlier, I'd gotten into HOT ROCKS, and so knew most of what we refer to today as warhorses. Over the next year or two, I built up my Stones vinyl collection, starting with STICKY FINGERS and working backwards ... but for reasons never entirely clear to me I never owned a copy of the LET IT BLEED vinyl until years later.

Although it contained my all-time favorite Stones studio cut--"Gimme Shelter"--I somehow never regarded it as a cohesive album, in the same way I saw BB, EOMS, and SF. It seemed more ... I don't know ... constructed rather than an organic whole. Its pieces were arguably the best tracks The Stones ever cut but it didn't hang together for me like the other three as long playing records meant to be listened to in order at one sitting.

I don't know if this is making any real sense, or if anyone else has had an experience remotely similar with LET IT BLEED. It's one of the best rock albums of all time ... and yet I'm still not sure I would rank it higher than 4th in my pantheon of personal favorites among The Stones' discography.

That's interesting, as half of SF is from different sessions in 1969, and a large part of Exile is from 1969/70 + from Los Angeles. Only 8 songs were recorded in that basement...

Let It Bleed should really be the cohesive album sound-wise out of these three albums. It's an album dominated by Keith, as he mainly was the only guitar player. The sound is imo cohesive (apart from Country Honk and Let It Bleed. The latter, for some reason, was recorded much like the mid-60s recordings, with the drums in one channel).

I hear you, and I even tried to see if it was the collection of songs that didn't go well together, but I can't hear what you're talking about when I listen to the album.

Re: ALBUM TALK: Let It Bleed
Posted by: nightskyman ()
Date: September 14, 2015 15:58

I still think Beggar's Banquet is a better album (then LIB album), but for me LIB is more like icing on the cake.

Some great ones that I'm sure Stones fans list as their greatest (Gimme Shelter, Midnight Rambler, Can't Always Get What You Want and the light version of Honky Tonk Woman).

Re: ALBUM TALK: Let It Bleed
Date: September 14, 2015 16:27

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nightskyman
I still think Beggar's Banquet is a better album (then LIB album), but for me LIB is more like icing on the cake.

Some great ones that I'm sure Stones fans list as their greatest (Gimme Shelter, Midnight Rambler, Can't Always Get What You Want and the light version of Honky Tonk Woman).

Agreed.

Re: ALBUM TALK: Let It Bleed
Posted by: 35love ()
Date: September 14, 2015 16:32

A monument of some of the best art in the world. Ever created. Hanging up next to the Mona Lisa (okay, EXHIBITIONISM: THE ROLLING STONES *cringe*)


A champion of individual standalone numbers, incomprehensible created by the same song writing group and musicians, so varied the styles and complexity.

Seriously. One of the top 5 albums in the world ever to be produced (don't ask me what I think other 4 are, except Exile #1)
The craftsmanship and mastery seals the Rolling Stones as the Greatest.

Re: ALBUM TALK: Let It Bleed
Posted by: BamaStone ()
Date: September 14, 2015 17:37

One of the last small contributions on tape from Brian.

Re: ALBUM TALK: Let It Bleed
Posted by: Tantekäthe ()
Date: September 14, 2015 17:44

pure magic from start to finish

Re: ALBUM TALK: Let It Bleed
Posted by: LongBeachArena72 ()
Date: September 14, 2015 18:06

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DandelionPowderman
Quote
LongBeachArena72
I have such a weird relationship to this album. I think I've always thought of it more as a greatest hits compilation than as the next record after BEGGARS BANQUET.

The first Stones record I bought the day it came out was EOMS. A few months earlier, I'd gotten into HOT ROCKS, and so knew most of what we refer to today as warhorses. Over the next year or two, I built up my Stones vinyl collection, starting with STICKY FINGERS and working backwards ... but for reasons never entirely clear to me I never owned a copy of the LET IT BLEED vinyl until years later.

Although it contained my all-time favorite Stones studio cut--"Gimme Shelter"--I somehow never regarded it as a cohesive album, in the same way I saw BB, EOMS, and SF. It seemed more ... I don't know ... constructed rather than an organic whole. Its pieces were arguably the best tracks The Stones ever cut but it didn't hang together for me like the other three as long playing records meant to be listened to in order at one sitting.

I don't know if this is making any real sense, or if anyone else has had an experience remotely similar with LET IT BLEED. It's one of the best rock albums of all time ... and yet I'm still not sure I would rank it higher than 4th in my pantheon of personal favorites among The Stones' discography.

That's interesting, as half of SF is from different sessions in 1969, and a large part of Exile is from 1969/70 + from Los Angeles. Only 8 songs were recorded in that basement...

Let It Bleed should really be the cohesive album sound-wise out of these three albums. It's an album dominated by Keith, as he mainly was the only guitar player. The sound is imo cohesive (apart from Country Honk and Let It Bleed. The latter, for some reason, was recorded much like the mid-60s recordings, with the drums in one channel).

I hear you, and I even tried to see if it was the collection of songs that didn't go well together, but I can't hear what you're talking about when I listen to the album.

Yeah, I'm not sure how to express myself more precisely. It could be just a weird blind spot I have for the record. What you say about the recording history of the sessions behind LIB, SF, and EOMS makes a lot of sense. And for most people, LIB seems to be the most cohesive all-around musical statement. Perhaps one day I'll find the right words to zero in on my feelings about LET IT BLEED.

Re: ALBUM TALK: Let It Bleed
Posted by: Moonshine ()
Date: September 15, 2015 01:15

Quote
DandelionPowderman
Quote
Moonshine
Where to start with this monster. Iconic sleeve, thanks for the cake Delia. Assume the knocked over figure refers to Brian.
The perfect stones album, until Sticky pipped it.

GS. Brutal, tense, apocalyptic, lots more. Merry Clayton takes it even higher.
LIV. Beautiful come down after GS, a lovely thing.
CH. leave off a monster no 1 hit and put out this instead, love the ere we go.
LWM. Welcome Bobby, prefer it live.
LIB. Decadence, filthy metaphors. One of their all time best.
MR. The opus. Studio version only hints at what it would become live over the next few years.
YGTS. Brilliant track, there is a version of MJ on lead vocals but it impossible to top this for feeling.
MM. Wonderful Nicky Hopkins, only thing that slightly let's it down are the throwaway lyrics.
YCAGWYW. All time anthem, this full length version the best. Let it flood over you

Regarding MM: Didn't you forget the main cool thing about this track? The fantastic guitar playing!

Just love that delicate intro.
The guitars are top notch on all of Bleed, could be a peak before the heavy substances.

Re: ALBUM TALK: Let It Bleed
Posted by: RollingFreak ()
Date: September 15, 2015 01:19

Quote
LuxuryStones
A classic, excellent. Keith had to do it on his own as a guitarist here, and he showed it..
Its my favorite Stones album, for many reasons, but for this alone its worth it. Its the Keith Richards show on every single guitar lick and to me that means a lot. THIS is Mick and Keith at their absolute best.

Re: ALBUM TALK: Let It Bleed
Posted by: Redhotcarpet ()
Date: September 15, 2015 16:46

Quote
Moonshine
Quote
DandelionPowderman
Quote
Moonshine
Where to start with this monster. Iconic sleeve, thanks for the cake Delia. Assume the knocked over figure refers to Brian.
The perfect stones album, until Sticky pipped it.

GS. Brutal, tense, apocalyptic, lots more. Merry Clayton takes it even higher.
LIV. Beautiful come down after GS, a lovely thing.
CH. leave off a monster no 1 hit and put out this instead, love the ere we go.
LWM. Welcome Bobby, prefer it live.
LIB. Decadence, filthy metaphors. One of their all time best.
MR. The opus. Studio version only hints at what it would become live over the next few years.
YGTS. Brilliant track, there is a version of MJ on lead vocals but it impossible to top this for feeling.
MM. Wonderful Nicky Hopkins, only thing that slightly let's it down are the throwaway lyrics.
YCAGWYW. All time anthem, this full length version the best. Let it flood over you

Regarding MM: Didn't you forget the main cool thing about this track? The fantastic guitar playing!

Just love that delicate intro.
The guitars are top notch on all of Bleed, could be a peak before the heavy substances.

hehe "before"?

Re: ALBUM TALK: Let It Bleed
Posted by: Redhotcarpet ()
Date: September 15, 2015 17:09

Quote
RollingFreak
Quote
LuxuryStones
A classic, excellent. Keith had to do it on his own as a guitarist here, and he showed it..
Its my favorite Stones album, for many reasons, but for this alone its worth it. Its the Keith Richards show on every single guitar lick and to me that means a lot. THIS is Mick and Keith at their absolute best.

This is their best album. Period. I'm not even gonna debate this. Let it bleed from Gimme to You can't: these are facts. Those are hard cold proof. If we're gonna fight about this on iorr, if someone says Sticky (overrated) or Exile (great) or Beggars or Aftermath or the debut I say, sure, they are all great (except for Sticky - their most overrated album). Ill even go with Black n blue or Tattoo or Some or iorr (a favourite) or GHS (noot bad at all, great even). But this is the shit. Let it bleed. No contest. Thank you. cool smiley

Re: ALBUM TALK: Let It Bleed
Posted by: kristian ()
Date: September 15, 2015 19:38

Somehow, after all these years, I´m going to realize, how great KR was from 1968 thru 1969. That was his heyday and peak and everyhting - not to say that everything or even anything since then is worthless or absolutely less great.

He almost played all the guitar parts in Beggars´Banquet AND Let it Bleed, an achievement that will stand the time. Then again, he never wanted to be the only guitarist in the band - two-guitar-thing, that was and is his thing.

Then, inevitably, the next guitar arrived and, sadly, the drugs crept in and we know what it´s been like since.

IMHO, Let it Bleed is the high point of the Decade and epitomizes also the end of the 60´s, with all that was left behind and so brutally changed for worse in the coming 70´s.

I´m getting sentimental, I´m almost a fool to cry so it´s full stop now.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2015-09-16 11:35 by kristian.

Re: ALBUM TALK: Let It Bleed
Posted by: Moonshine ()
Date: September 15, 2015 20:54

Quote
Redhotcarpet
Quote
RollingFreak
Quote
LuxuryStones
A classic, excellent. Keith had to do it on his own as a guitarist here, and he showed it..
Its my favorite Stones album, for many reasons, but for this alone its worth it. Its the Keith Richards show on every single guitar lick and to me that means a lot. THIS is Mick and Keith at their absolute best.

This is their best album. Period. I'm not even gonna debate this. Let it bleed from Gimme to You can't: these are facts. Those are hard cold proof. If we're gonna fight about this on iorr, if someone says Sticky (overrated) or Exile (great) or Beggars or Aftermath or the debut I say, sure, they are all great (except for Sticky - their most overrated album). Ill even go with Black n blue or Tattoo or Some or iorr (a favourite) or GHS (noot bad at all, great even). But this is the shit. Let it bleed. No contest. Thank you. cool smiley

Sticky overrated, wow

Re: ALBUM TALK: Let It Bleed
Posted by: Redhotcarpet ()
Date: September 16, 2015 09:36

Old gods almost dead - link

Also worth mentioning. Ry Cooders huge influence on that album but also on Keiths playing.

Re: ALBUM TALK: Let It Bleed
Posted by: Redhotcarpet ()
Date: September 16, 2015 09:44



"Richards hired Brownjohn, a close friend, to design the cover of the album, which was originally supposed to be called Automatic Changer. In spite of the name change, the Stones stuck with Brownjohn's design because they liked it so much. And more than 40 years later, MoMA agrees:"
article



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2015-09-16 09:45 by Redhotcarpet.

Re: ALBUM TALK: Let It Bleed
Date: September 16, 2015 10:10

Quote
kristian
Somehow, after all these years, I´m going to realize, how great KR was from 1968 thru 1969. That was his heyday and peak and everyhting - not to say that everything or even anything since then is worthless or absolutely less great.

He almost played all the guitar parts in Beggars´Banquet AND Let it Bleed, an achievement that will stand the time. Then again, he never wanted to be the only guitarist in the band - two-guitar-thing, that was and is his thing.

Then, unevitably, the next guitar arrived and, sadly, the drugs crept in and we know what it´s been like since.

IMHO, Let it Bleed is the high point of the Decade and epitomizes also the end of the 60´s, with all that was left behind and so brutally changed for worse in the coming 70´s.

I´m getting sentimental, I´m almost a fool to cry so it´s full stop now.

Agreed. But it was his heyday in the studio. He would become much better live later on.

Re: ALBUM TALK: Let It Bleed
Posted by: Eleanor Rigby ()
Date: September 16, 2015 10:38

Gimme Shelter makes this album.
And I think Monkey Man is a true classic also!
The rest all very good.

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