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pointless if the existing CDs still work
Fair point. For me Jigsaw Puzzle is a 7 but the album is still a 10. There's really no point in ranking the songs on Exile either. LIB is actually weak by comparison because it makes perfect sense to rank the songs...if that makes any sense.
Well so does my hairbrush, but it's not as good as the one my hairdresser uses.
What I mean, is that I want a better version of some of the CD's.
Charlie's got to pay for all those horses somehow.... Maybe he will name one of them Latebloomer in honor of Latebloomer.
LIB is not weak imo but actually stronger if you look at individual numbers. But, yes, Beggars is a ten as an album - of course. There are no bad songs on it but I see Salt of the earth as a part of the album, a finishing touch - not a strong song but a nice performance. If one compares to Let it bleed, YCAGWYW is a strong number on a strong album. I consider Let it bleed to be their best album. Followed by Exile. Not Beggars, despite PW, NE, SFM.
Yes, that was understood, but my point is that the songs are still the songs, do you really they will sound better by buying another cd?
I dunno, but I'm willing to try. I am ever hopeful, leonid....
As long as he doesn't say it to the tail end of the horse, Turner, I'm perfectly fine with that.
Sorry, still not following ... does it not sound just about perfect already? If anything, I'd recommend going vinyl over another cd.
No doubt ... but so does my non-SACD copy!
Get the 2002 remaster. It sounds INCREDIBLE. Which means, a gazillion times better than the 1986 issue.
Come on, Salt of the earth is my favourite Stones song! Always has been for 40 years now.
Beggars Banquet is a classic in teh entire album department athough a song like Dear doctor surely is no classic (in fact, it only works on the context).
I cannot imagine that Jigsaw puzzle would work in concert, and it is probably therefore they never performed it.
Talk about your favorite band.
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Re: ALBUM TALK: Beggars Banquet
Posted by:
Redhotcarpet
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Date: January 1, 2016 01:04
Sympathy for the Devil 8/10
No Expectations 10/10
Dear Doctor 5/10
Parachute Woman 10/10
Jigsaw Puzzle 8/10
Street Fighting Man 10/10
Prodigal Son 8/10
Stray Cat Blues 8/10
Factory Girl 6/10
Salt of the Earth 2/10
No Expectations 10/10
Dear Doctor 5/10
Parachute Woman 10/10
Jigsaw Puzzle 8/10
Street Fighting Man 10/10
Prodigal Son 8/10
Stray Cat Blues 8/10
Factory Girl 6/10
Salt of the Earth 2/10
Re: ALBUM TALK: Beggars Banquet
Posted by:
latebloomer
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Date: January 1, 2016 17:06
So the 2002 release is the best one to get? I want to replace some of my Stones CD's this year, and BB is on the top of the list.
And, are we really trying to rank the songs on this album????...if all that was on there was Parachute Woman, it would be enough, and I can't even articulate why, just the SOUND of it. SUCH an incredible album, from start to finish.
And, are we really trying to rank the songs on this album????...if all that was on there was Parachute Woman, it would be enough, and I can't even articulate why, just the SOUND of it. SUCH an incredible album, from start to finish.
Re: ALBUM TALK: Beggars Banquet
Posted by:
LeonidP
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Date: January 1, 2016 17:08
Quote
latebloomer
...I want to replace some of my Stones CD's this year...
pointless if the existing CDs still work
Re: ALBUM TALK: Beggars Banquet
Posted by:
Swayed1967
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Date: January 1, 2016 17:14
Quote
latebloomer
And, are we really trying to rank the songs on this album????...if all that was on there was Parachute Woman, it would be enough, and I can't even articulate why, just the SOUND of it. SUCH an incredible album, from start to finish.
Fair point. For me Jigsaw Puzzle is a 7 but the album is still a 10. There's really no point in ranking the songs on Exile either. LIB is actually weak by comparison because it makes perfect sense to rank the songs...if that makes any sense.
Re: ALBUM TALK: Beggars Banquet
Posted by:
latebloomer
()
Date: January 1, 2016 17:15
Quote
LeonidPQuote
latebloomer
...I want to replace some of my Stones CD's this year...
pointless if the existing CDs still work
Well so does my hairbrush, but it's not as good as the one my hairdresser uses.
What I mean, is that I want a better version of some of the CD's.
Re: ALBUM TALK: Beggars Banquet
Posted by:
Turner68
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Date: January 1, 2016 19:05
Quote
LeonidPQuote
latebloomer
...I want to replace some of my Stones CD's this year...
pointless if the existing CDs still work
Charlie's got to pay for all those horses somehow.... Maybe he will name one of them Latebloomer in honor of Latebloomer.
Re: ALBUM TALK: Beggars Banquet
Posted by:
Redhotcarpet
()
Date: January 1, 2016 21:04
Quote
Swayed1967Quote
latebloomer
And, are we really trying to rank the songs on this album????...if all that was on there was Parachute Woman, it would be enough, and I can't even articulate why, just the SOUND of it. SUCH an incredible album, from start to finish.
Fair point. For me Jigsaw Puzzle is a 7 but the album is still a 10. There's really no point in ranking the songs on Exile either. LIB is actually weak by comparison because it makes perfect sense to rank the songs...if that makes any sense.
LIB is not weak imo but actually stronger if you look at individual numbers. But, yes, Beggars is a ten as an album - of course. There are no bad songs on it but I see Salt of the earth as a part of the album, a finishing touch - not a strong song but a nice performance. If one compares to Let it bleed, YCAGWYW is a strong number on a strong album. I consider Let it bleed to be their best album. Followed by Exile. Not Beggars, despite PW, NE, SFM.
Re: ALBUM TALK: Beggars Banquet
Posted by:
Tops
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Date: January 1, 2016 21:05
Jig Saw Puzzle is my favourite song Beggars Banquet!
Re: ALBUM TALK: Beggars Banquet
Posted by:
LeonidP
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Date: January 1, 2016 21:42
Quote
latebloomerQuote
LeonidPQuote
latebloomer
...I want to replace some of my Stones CD's this year...
pointless if the existing CDs still work
Well so does my hairbrush, but it's not as good as the one my hairdresser uses.
What I mean, is that I want a better version of some of the CD's.
Yes, that was understood, but my point is that the songs are still the songs, do you really they will sound better by buying another cd?
Re: ALBUM TALK: Beggars Banquet
Posted by:
GasLightStreet
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Date: January 1, 2016 23:16
Jigsaw Puzzle is excellent. Why haven't they ever played it live!!?
Re: ALBUM TALK: Beggars Banquet
Posted by:
latebloomer
()
Date: January 1, 2016 23:36
Quote
LeonidPQuote
latebloomerQuote
LeonidPQuote
latebloomer
...I want to replace some of my Stones CD's this year...
pointless if the existing CDs still work
Well so does my hairbrush, but it's not as good as the one my hairdresser uses.
What I mean, is that I want a better version of some of the CD's.
Yes, that was understood, but my point is that the songs are still the songs, do you really they will sound better by buying another cd?
I dunno, but I'm willing to try. I am ever hopeful, leonid....
Re: ALBUM TALK: Beggars Banquet
Posted by:
latebloomer
()
Date: January 1, 2016 23:37
Quote
Turner68Quote
LeonidPQuote
latebloomer
...I want to replace some of my Stones CD's this year...
pointless if the existing CDs still work
Charlie's got to pay for all those horses somehow.... Maybe he will name one of them Latebloomer in honor of Latebloomer.
As long as he doesn't say it to the tail end of the horse, Turner, I'm perfectly fine with that.
Re: ALBUM TALK: Beggars Banquet
Posted by:
Witness
()
Date: January 2, 2016 00:05
My "atomistique" song-for-song evaluation from one moment in time.
Sympathy for the Devil 10**
No Expectations 10***
Dear Doctor 9
Parachute Woman 9,75
Jigsaw Puzzle 10
Street Fighting Man 10*
Prodigal Son 9
Stray Cat Blues 10*
Factory Girl 9,75
Salt of the Earth 10**
Nothing stated by me for the album as a whole. However, for a couple of decades BECGARS BANQUET actually was my highest evaluated album. Now for the last decades, happily, by me set forth as only one of approximately 12 highest and great Stones albums, not ranking among them.
[It has been and is liberating for me to get away from ranking between albums that at the same time are both wholes and consisting of individual songs. That process started with me quite many years ago, when I noticed that I often was gaining more satisfaction from albums and songs that were not according to my then reached hierachies of Stones output. At first puzzled, it even became and is a special joy and refreshing to have it that way. Then I may now freely evaluate individual songs within an album and across albums as long as I am free from ranking between albums.]
Added much later: Here for instance 1o** is to be read 10 plus 2 stars.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2019-10-17 18:10 by Witness.
Sympathy for the Devil 10**
No Expectations 10***
Dear Doctor 9
Parachute Woman 9,75
Jigsaw Puzzle 10
Street Fighting Man 10*
Prodigal Son 9
Stray Cat Blues 10*
Factory Girl 9,75
Salt of the Earth 10**
Nothing stated by me for the album as a whole. However, for a couple of decades BECGARS BANQUET actually was my highest evaluated album. Now for the last decades, happily, by me set forth as only one of approximately 12 highest and great Stones albums, not ranking among them.
[It has been and is liberating for me to get away from ranking between albums that at the same time are both wholes and consisting of individual songs. That process started with me quite many years ago, when I noticed that I often was gaining more satisfaction from albums and songs that were not according to my then reached hierachies of Stones output. At first puzzled, it even became and is a special joy and refreshing to have it that way. Then I may now freely evaluate individual songs within an album and across albums as long as I am free from ranking between albums.]
Added much later: Here for instance 1o** is to be read 10 plus 2 stars.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2019-10-17 18:10 by Witness.
Re: ALBUM TALK: Beggars Banquet
Posted by:
GetYerAngie
()
Date: January 2, 2016 00:20
Sympathy for the Devil 10/10
No Expectations 9/10
Dear Doctor 8/10
Parachute Woman 9/10
Jigsaw Puzzle 9/10
Street Fighting Man 9/10
Prodigal Son 8/10
Stray Cat Blues 10/10
Factory Girl 8/10
Salt of the Earth 6/10
The album as a whole 10/10
No Expectations 9/10
Dear Doctor 8/10
Parachute Woman 9/10
Jigsaw Puzzle 9/10
Street Fighting Man 9/10
Prodigal Son 8/10
Stray Cat Blues 10/10
Factory Girl 8/10
Salt of the Earth 6/10
The album as a whole 10/10
Re: ALBUM TALK: Beggars Banquet
Posted by:
LeonidP
()
Date: January 2, 2016 04:39
Quote
latebloomerQuote
LeonidPQuote
latebloomerQuote
LeonidPQuote
latebloomer
...I want to replace some of my Stones CD's this year...
pointless if the existing CDs still work
Well so does my hairbrush, but it's not as good as the one my hairdresser uses.
What I mean, is that I want a better version of some of the CD's.
Yes, that was understood, but my point is that the songs are still the songs, do you really they will sound better by buying another cd?
I dunno, but I'm willing to try. I am ever hopeful, leonid....
Sorry, still not following ... does it not sound just about perfect already? If anything, I'd recommend going vinyl over another cd.
Re: ALBUM TALK: Beggars Banquet
Posted by:
Rockman
()
Date: January 2, 2016 05:34
Japanese SACD of da Beggars sounds good ......
ROCKMAN
ROCKMAN
Re: ALBUM TALK: Beggars Banquet
Posted by:
LeonidP
()
Date: January 2, 2016 06:30
Quote
Rockman
Japanese SACD of da Beggars sounds good ......
No doubt ... but so does my non-SACD copy!
Re: ALBUM TALK: Beggars Banquet
Posted by:
bitusa2012
()
Date: January 2, 2016 09:21
Sympathy for the Devil 10/10
No Expectations 10/10
Dear Doctor 8/10
Parachute Woman 10/10
Jigsaw Puzzle 7/10
Street Fighting Man 10/10
Prodigal Son 9/10
Stray Cat Blues 10/10
Factory Girl 10/10
Salt of the Earth 10/10
Stunning album. Gee they were GREAT in this particular era, weren't they? Just the growth from Aftermath through Goats Head Soup... Not only in songs, but in playing AND production. Stupendous.
Rod
No Expectations 10/10
Dear Doctor 8/10
Parachute Woman 10/10
Jigsaw Puzzle 7/10
Street Fighting Man 10/10
Prodigal Son 9/10
Stray Cat Blues 10/10
Factory Girl 10/10
Salt of the Earth 10/10
Stunning album. Gee they were GREAT in this particular era, weren't they? Just the growth from Aftermath through Goats Head Soup... Not only in songs, but in playing AND production. Stupendous.
Rod
Re: ALBUM TALK: Beggars Banquet
Posted by:
Screamer
()
Date: December 6, 2018 10:38
Release date: December 6, 1968
Happy 50th birthday to this amazing masterpiece!
Happy 50th birthday to this amazing masterpiece!
Re: ALBUM TALK: Beggars Banquet
Posted by:
Chris Fountain
()
Date: December 6, 2018 11:23
Factory Girl is excellent - Song makes one feel it could be from year 1915 or industrial revolution . simply grows on ya.
Re: ALBUM TALK: Beggars Banquet
Posted by:
KeithNacho
()
Date: December 6, 2018 11:30
Happy 50th birthday BB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The album (and single JJF & Child of the moon) that started it all
Re: ALBUM TALK: Beggars Banquet
Posted by:
Chris Fountain
()
Date: December 6, 2018 11:48
This album should not be compared to any other Stones' work. It is unique and with great subtleness. Yes, several songs of this album are or have been played with electric vibrancy, which are also outstanding. However, the album is more laid back and hits the comfort zone. Hard to describe -
Additionally, I really like the song order as one other poster stated, this album is a "masterpiece."
Additionally, I really like the song order as one other poster stated, this album is a "masterpiece."
Re: ALBUM TALK: Beggars Banquet
Posted by:
CamRS
()
Date: December 6, 2018 18:28
Over the last couple of years, Beggars Banquet has become my favorite Stones album.
It took awhile for Dear Doctor, Jigsaw Puzzle, Factory Girl and SOTE to “click” for me for some reason. As my musical taste has grown over the last few years, I’ve come to really love those songs.
-Cam
It took awhile for Dear Doctor, Jigsaw Puzzle, Factory Girl and SOTE to “click” for me for some reason. As my musical taste has grown over the last few years, I’ve come to really love those songs.
-Cam
Re: ALBUM TALK: Beggars Banquet
Posted by:
bye bye johnny
()
Date: December 6, 2018 18:55
The Rolling Stones' 'Beggars Banquet' at 50: Classic Album Track-by-Track
12/6/2018 by Morgan Enos
Mark and Colleen Hayward/Redferns
[www.billboard.com]
12/6/2018 by Morgan Enos
Mark and Colleen Hayward/Redferns
[www.billboard.com]
Re: ALBUM TALK: Beggars Banquet
Posted by:
GasLightStreet
()
Date: December 7, 2018 19:04
Quote
LeonidPQuote
latebloomerQuote
LeonidPQuote
latebloomerQuote
LeonidPQuote
latebloomer
...I want to replace some of my Stones CD's this year...
pointless if the existing CDs still work
Well so does my hairbrush, but it's not as good as the one my hairdresser uses.
What I mean, is that I want a better version of some of the CD's.
Yes, that was understood, but my point is that the songs are still the songs, do you really they will sound better by buying another cd?
I dunno, but I'm willing to try. I am ever hopeful, leonid....
Sorry, still not following ... does it not sound just about perfect already? If anything, I'd recommend going vinyl over another cd.
Get the 2002 remaster. It sounds INCREDIBLE. Which means, a gazillion times better than the 1986 issue.
Re: ALBUM TALK: Beggars Banquet
Posted by:
Cristiano Radtke
()
Date: October 17, 2019 10:35
The Rolling Stones’ Beggars Banquet: Michael Joseph’s best photograph
‘When I told the caretaker of the house the Stones were a bit wild, he asked if there would be any naked ladies – because they charged £10 extra for that’
Interview by Henry Yates
Thu 17 Oct 2019
[amp.theguardian.com]
‘When I told the caretaker of the house the Stones were a bit wild, he asked if there would be any naked ladies – because they charged £10 extra for that’
Interview by Henry Yates
Thu 17 Oct 2019
[amp.theguardian.com]
Re: ALBUM TALK: Beggars Banquet
Posted by:
saltoftheearth
()
Date: October 17, 2019 12:04
Quote
Redhotcarpet
There are no bad songs on it but I see Salt of the earth as a part of the album, a finishing touch - not a strong song but a nice performance.
Come on, Salt of the earth is my favourite Stones song! Always has been for 40 years now.
Beggars Banquet is a classic in teh entire album department athough a song like Dear doctor surely is no classic (in fact, it only works on the context).
I cannot imagine that Jigsaw puzzle would work in concert, and it is probably therefore they never performed it.
Re: ALBUM TALK: Beggars Banquet
Posted by:
jlowe
()
Date: October 17, 2019 12:21
Quote
Cristiano Radtke
The Rolling Stones’ Beggars Banquet: Michael Joseph’s best photograph
‘When I told the caretaker of the house the Stones were a bit wild, he asked if there would be any naked ladies – because they charged £10 extra for that’
Interview by Henry Yates
Thu 17 Oct 2019
Is there a date for the photo shoot, as the article states :
1. Brian had got busted the night before, but they didn't find anything.
2. The photographer had recently been to a Stones concert...in Newcastle.
Maybe I have misread...I assume the shoot was sometime in 1968.
[amp.theguardian.com]
Re: ALBUM TALK: Beggars Banquet
Posted by:
JordyLicks96
()
Date: October 17, 2019 17:49
Sympathy For The Devil 10/10
No Expectations 10/10
Dear Doctor 9/10
Parachute Woman 10/10
Jigsaw Puzzle 10/10
Street Fighting Man 10/10
Prodigal Son 9/10
Stray Cat Blues 10/10
Factory Girl 10/10
Salt Of The Earth 10/10
No Expectations 10/10
Dear Doctor 9/10
Parachute Woman 10/10
Jigsaw Puzzle 10/10
Street Fighting Man 10/10
Prodigal Son 9/10
Stray Cat Blues 10/10
Factory Girl 10/10
Salt Of The Earth 10/10
Re: ALBUM TALK: Beggars Banquet
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
()
Date: October 17, 2019 17:56
Sympathy For The Devil 10/10
No Expectations 10/10
Dear Doctor 8/10
Parachute Woman 10/10
Jigsaw Puzzle 10/10
Street Fighting Man 10/10
Prodigal Son 10/10
Stray Cat Blues 10/10
Factory Girl 10/10
Salt Of The Earth 8/10
No Expectations 10/10
Dear Doctor 8/10
Parachute Woman 10/10
Jigsaw Puzzle 10/10
Street Fighting Man 10/10
Prodigal Son 10/10
Stray Cat Blues 10/10
Factory Girl 10/10
Salt Of The Earth 8/10
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